Brett, vhlinks emperor, sheds some light on VH/Eddie situation

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  • Vinnie Velvet
    Full Member Status

    • Feb 2004
    • 4583

    Brett, vhlinks emperor, sheds some light on VH/Eddie situation

    Here's what Brett posted:

    Current VH Situation - From My Sources

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Ok I started a new topic, not because what VT posted isn’t true per se, but because the tone of that thread just became a mess of confusion.

    I think what we fail to realize in all of this is Van Halen has always been a very private band. Well before the internet, the band normally kept their private lives to themselves, which is why it’s sometimes hard to find out info about their past history. I mean even when Dave left the band, while people knew about it, it certainly wasn’t the headline news it would be now with the net, etc. It just happened and that was it. Very little fanfare about something that was pretty big music news at the time. For those of us who remember that time, I know you will agree with me.

    So now everyone expects the band to change from that same belief of privacy in this new age, and they’re simply not going to. Has it backfired on the band over the years? Yes no question. But at the same time, I do believe everyone has a right to their privacy, even celebrities. Certainly dealing with addictions and health issues is not something that I would be running to share with anyone, famous or not. So try to remember that when you scream for info, I know it’s hard. As fans we feel we are owed more than that, and I myself have felt that way many times I know.

    I don’t know whether Ed was in rehab or not, and frankly I don’t care anymore. I had pretty credible info of something that many others also had (like Andrew for Melodicrock), but maybe it was false info. Or maybe some things were exaggerated. I simply don’t know at this point, and it’s not worth debating.

    But from time to time I do get interesting info from people very close to the band. Sometimes I can share it, other times I am asked not to. I haven’t really gotten anything in a long time, so when I do, I know it’s important and it’s NEVER been wrong.

    From the info I got, here’s what I can say confidently.

    Eddie is not currently in rehab, he’s at home taking care of himself, and dealing with whatever medical conditions are affecting him right now. It sounds like he’s doing well, but who knows. I hope he is.

    The tour has not been cancelled, Mike is not returning to Van Halen anytime soon. Wolfgang is VH’s bassist. Any reports of Mike coming back are 100% false.

    With regards to Val’s book. I don’t even know what importance this plays in anything, but apparently Ed has not read it. It also doesn’t sound like it’s any part of the reason VH isn’t playing right now either. I never thought it was, but some did. I also heard that Valerie doesn’t have any idea about Ed’s current health, so I guess her claims that she does may be coming through what she hears from her son, at least that’s what I am guessing. Again, is this really important in the grand scheme of things?


    So pretty much the same stuff VT said, and I feel good about the information I have gotten. I didn’t really ask any other questions, I didn’t think it was my place to. It sounds to me like the reason the band doesn’t officially release this kind of information is they probably don’t believe it’s the kind of stuff they want out there as official news direct from them. Like I said, and like you know, Van Halen has always guarded their private info. Easier to leak stuff out unofficially, whether we like it or not.

    I hope this has shed some light on things. I guess what we can take from this is Ed is seeking help for his current problems and VH plans on continuing their tour as of right now. About all the info I think we need.
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  • Apocalypso
    Groupie
    • Aug 2007
    • 84

    #2
    My take on this whole thing on VH Links is that Janie / the Van Halen PR machine aka damage control is using people like Venom Thrust and probably whoever Brett got his info from to spin Eddie's problems into something less than some sort of messy booze/drug relapse in a rather cheesy effort to bypass dealing with the press or putting out any sort of public statement and ultimately salvage what's left of the tour.

    You read the thread started by Venom Thrust from yesterday, it's obvious, especially if you know his odd stalker-esque relationship with Janie (he was comped a pair of tickets by her for last year's Anaheim show) that he was fed specific comments to post on VH Links not only as damage control for Eddie (and the tour) but more tellingly, to address comments and opinions about herself and Valerie's current standing with Eddie (basically, Val's making false statements and is completely out of the loop) to the point the rings on Eddie's fingers are identified and it's made clear that Liszewski has never acted in a porn movie (although she appeared in a documentary called "Dildo Diaries" and as a "wet t shirt girl" in some teen slob comedy). Just a wee bit o' insecurcity there, Janie?

    One of the key denials made by VT was that Eddie "is not in rehab" despite several fairly reliable sources indicating that he indeed went back in after the 2/20 show for either booze or drugs. Rather amusingly, Brett was one of the guys most vocal about the fact that Eddie *was* at some point in rehab recently.

    Today, you have Brett now basically parroting the same info as VT and playing down any sort of recent rehab ("it doesn't matter") for Eddie.

    And then you have someone like Andrew at Melodicrock with his "sources" basically saying Ed is pretty fucked up, has been and may still be in rehab, plus he's dealing with his other medical issue (most agree it has something to do with Ed's hearing and equilibrium) and the rest of the tour is all but doomed at this point.

    The point is, it's pretty clear VH management is using a few people close to the band filtering down to several willing mouthpieces on a VH internet message board to spread their spin in a crude, clumsy attempt to bypass making public statements.

    T.B.

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    • Apocalypso
      Groupie
      • Aug 2007
      • 84

      #3
      (deleted duplicate posting)
      Last edited by Apocalypso; 03-12-2008, 03:34 PM.

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      • Pasadena Bunnie
        Head Fluffer
        • Jul 2006
        • 413

        #4
        I don't think for a minute think that Val "doesn't know" what's happening with Ed. I think she knows and she has made her statement on Ed's proactive situation and how proud she is of him.....I buy it, whether it has to do with Rehab or other health concerns.

        So be it, that VH will stay tight-lipped on the situation at hand. Of course, DLR won't be talking to press about it....

        I think for some of us, we'll come to our own conclusions (which will probably be somewhat on target) and so be it. Some of us will not give up hope that the tour will resume once Ed's health and mind are in a better state. Some will say the hell w/this band...enough drama!

        Bottomline is that I hope for Ed to get well (mind, body & soul)....and take the quality time to do so. After reading Val's book, I'm convinced that Ed needs therapy as well as Rehab. At the end of her book, she adds a note to Ed that I think is eloquent:


        "Ed - you are a good man, believe it. When you do, you will be free. I love you."


        I applaud Ed for having completed at least 40 some odd gigs....(some of them he was obviously intoxicated - 1 out of 5 that I went to, he was intoxicated...Las Vegas Gig) but for the most part, its alot to put on someone "fresh" out of Rehab as he was last year. Today, one year later, we assume it's the same scenario....nonetheless, he and the rest of this "NEW" VH Band have my solid support. You can bet that whatever the situation is, Ed has the support of Al, Dave & most importantly, Wolfie.


        Just my $0.02 on it...

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        • DLR'sCock
          Crazy Ass Mofo
          • Jan 2004
          • 2937

          #5
          Too bad for all of the people who spent alot of money on travel plans to see the band.

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          • binnie
            DIAMOND STATUS
            • May 2006
            • 19145

            #6
            I wonder what 'The Guy' thinks about all of this?
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            • Pasadena Bunnie
              Head Fluffer
              • Jul 2006
              • 413

              #7
              Originally posted by DLR'sCock
              Too bad for all of the people who spent alot of money on travel plans to see the band.



              Okay, so it's not a Rehab issue.... :confused:

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                #8
                Whatever the case, it's sad...

                Dave was 100% on top of his game during the tour and to the best of his ability gave us more than a glimpse of what real Van Halen was...

                His performances night after night were impressive...

                His vocals at the Seattle show were nothing short of awesome, chilling at times, making the songs sound so close to their original magic...

                I spent quite a bit of money on that trip and it was worth it...

                But still, I feel Dave compromised a lot going out with Wolf and a sub-par Edward, but Ed had some good nights, so all was not lost. But even the best performances were lacking without Michael Anthony, in my personal opinion...

                But I still have my hopes up of Edward getting the help he needs and getting his head and his health together and eventually giving us what he is ultimately capable of...

                Although one of my concerns now is how much more of this is Dave willing to put up with...

                I imagine he's been pretty pissed off at times, but he rolled the dice and got what more than a few of us predicted...

                I hope and pray for Edward's health and well being and wish him all the best. Not just so I can get some good music to listen to, it's deeper than that for me and most of the real fans...

                I've had my own battles with drugs and alcohol and lasted one day out of rehab, so...

                It's hard, but not impossible...

                Edward can do it!


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                • Panamark
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 17160

                  #9
                  Maybe he has joint problems with his hands ??
                  Who the hell knows, if he is not in Rehab it doesnt
                  sound like drinking is the issue...
                  BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                  Love ya Mary Frances!

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                  • Apocalypso
                    Groupie
                    • Aug 2007
                    • 84

                    #10
                    My personal take on all this is that Eddie has issues that'll dog him for his entire life, part of which is his ongoing battles with booze/substance abuse and of course, his declining health and abilities after decades of playing high volume rock n' roll. You add to that this whole system of enablers and bottom-feeders willing to do whatever quick fix needed to keep him touring and making money right now and the odds are just incredibly stacked against him living to a decent retirement age, much less even having a healthy mindset short term.

                    Considering what kind of dire condition he was rumored to be in around late 2006 before he did the pre-tour rehab stint, especially based on Dave's own words in that LA Times interview, it's amazing and perhaps a bit sad that while we as fans got a mostly excellent string of shows this past 8 months, it's probably going to wind up being Ed's swan song at least as a touring musician as we've know him.

                    T.B.

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                    • PlexiBrown
                      Commando
                      • Mar 2006
                      • 1264

                      #11
                      Even this mess is better than Van Hagar.
                      And God heard the voice of the lad. Then the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said to her, “What ails you, Hagar? Genesis 21:17

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49205

                        #12
                        We need Ford to go back to the Links and call him "Anal Thrust."

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                        • Bob Brubake
                          Full On Cocktard
                          • Feb 2008
                          • 39

                          #13
                          Originally posted by PlexiBrown
                          Even this mess is better than Van Hagar.
                          Van Hagar never cancelled/postponed a tour though. Obviously Ed has some serious issues, whatever they may be. I'm still hanging on to my tickets for St. Louis(twice postponed). I'm afraid the end is near though. I just want to see them 1 more time. I'm not sure if it will happen.
                          Maybe Ed's got another porno in the works? Whoops, did I say Porno? I meant a movie with sex scenes in it.

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                          • Panamark
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 17160

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Bob Brubake
                            Van Hagar never cancelled/postponed a tour though.
                            Nah, they simply stopped playing altogether when they could
                            no longer stand each other. Eddie hated Hagar and vice versa
                            ended the 2004 tour. But you knew that already didnt ya !
                            BABY PANA 2 IS Coming !! All across the land, let the love and beer flow !
                            Love ya Mary Frances!

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                            • Apocalypso
                              Groupie
                              • Aug 2007
                              • 84

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Bob Brubake
                              Van Hagar never cancelled/postponed a tour though.
                              While they didn't postpone entire chunks of a tour, Van "Hagar" cancelled or postponed numerous individual shows throughout their original run between '86 - '95.

                              And seriously, the '04 tour should have ended after the August LA area shows. Adding that last batch of 20-odd shows was rediculous and recklessly greedy considering the condition Eddie had deteriorated to by that point.

                              T.B.

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