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  • TFM_Dale
    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
    • Jan 2009
    • 7943

    Thing is I think Pitt would be a top team without his ass. Ben is a big game QB but sometimes Pitt gets to wrapped up in throwing the ball with Rape-man that they get away from running the ball and keeping the D fresh. With the way the Steelers are set up I think they contend with any smart, vet QB (kind of a Dilfer arrangement) and Ben could be more of a distraction then what he is worth. Call me crazy but the D has more to do with the SB titles then Ben does.

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    • POJO_Risin
      Roth Army Caesar
      • Mar 2003
      • 40648

      Originally posted by TFM_Dale
      Thing is I think Pitt would be a top team without his ass. Ben is a big game QB but sometimes Pitt gets to wrapped up in throwing the ball with Rape-man that they get away from running the ball and keeping the D fresh. With the way the Steelers are set up I think they contend with any smart, vet QB (kind of a Dilfer arrangement) and Ben could be more of a distraction then what he is worth. Call me crazy but the D has more to do with the SB titles then Ben does.
      While I don't disagree at all that the D is the #1 reason the Steelers are in the Super Bowl, you can blame the passing on Arians as a whole, and to some extent, their lack of top-notch offensive lineman for the past five or six seasons. You could even make a case that with Willie Parker and to some extent, Rashard Mendenhall, they haven't had the HUGE back that they are used to. I think it's less a Roeth thing, than a "system" thing.

      As for Dilfer...post Bradshaw, we've had our Dilfer's with top defenses...and it didn't get the Steelers anywhere, with the exception of 1995 with O'Donnell...who had his best season. What Roeth can do while not trying to rape daughters...is make game-saving plays. I can't even begin to count how many HUGE 3rd or 4th down plays the guy has made, with his arm, and with his feet. Hell, look at Super Bowl 43, and that pass to Holmes. Now, of course, Holmes makes the catch...but the pass was where it needed to be to make the play. Dilfer doesn't make that play...or in the Steelers case...

      your boy Batch.

      To a different team...he's a distraction. To these Steelers...lets be honest...it probably gave him cred to some of these fucking dipshits...
      "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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      • Bob_R
        Full Member Status

        • Jan 2004
        • 3834

        Originally posted by POJO_Risin
        While Ben didn't exactly murder two people,

        Roeth had the benefit of:

        A: Being white (I don't care what the fuck you say, if a black dude has a white girl in that bathroom, he's going to jail)
        Too bad they didn't get OJ for murdering two people.

        In that instance if he were white and the victims were black he would have been in jail immediately.
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        • TFM_Dale
          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
          • Jan 2009
          • 7943

          Ben does make alot of plays, I just think without them they use a different system all together making a smart vet QB an option for them. If I could stand him even a little bit it might help, he just irritates the shit out of me with the whole motorcycle drama, his hobby of raping young girls, to many free passes and second chances doesn't make a new man, it makes a bigger asshole.

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          • POJO_Risin
            Roth Army Caesar
            • Mar 2003
            • 40648

            Originally posted by Bob_R
            Too bad they didn't get OJ for murdering two people.

            In that instance if he were white and the victims were black he would have been in jail immediately.
            Okay...while I'm not going to fight the whole OJ argument in this thread.

            1. OJ is about as white as a black guy got in those days, and the MAJOR reason it was race related was because it was in LA (you know...Brentwood...big black neighborhood), and Johnny C. made it about race, and not about murder...smart move to get his client off...
            2. He didn't get off because he was black...he got off because Marcia Clark and the LA police department are fucking idiots...Fuhrman and the glove...
            3. I can't even comment on the white guy/black chick scenario

            I'm not trying to make this about race, just don't think the OJ comment was relevant to the discussion...
            "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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            • DlocRoth
              ROCKSTAR

              • Jan 2004
              • 5521

              Nice little RB though. His moves were electrifying in those Avis TV spots.
              Fuck Scott Weiland. Fucking asshole. I get trashed all the time and still go to work. And my job sucks ass. -ODShowtime

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              • TFM_Dale
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Jan 2009
                • 7943

                OJ was probably a bad choice for comparison, I meant it as a football player comparison and the fact that fame gets you ALOT of slack. All other comparisons are out the window.

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                • POJO_Risin
                  Roth Army Caesar
                  • Mar 2003
                  • 40648

                  Originally posted by TFM_Dale
                  Ben does make alot of plays, I just think without them they use a different system all together making a smart vet QB an option for them. If I could stand him even a little bit it might help, he just irritates the shit out of me with the whole motorcycle drama, his hobby of raping young girls, to many free passes and second chances doesn't make a new man, it makes a bigger asshole.
                  Well...let's be honest here...it's not about the amount of "free passes" he gets. Technically speaking, he's only had one...in GA. Now, IMO, it's the type of "free pass" that is nearly unforgivable as a father for sure...

                  ...and watching him talk about actually makes me want to pile drive him into the fucking ground (which I couldn't do...by the way)...
                  "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                  • POJO_Risin
                    Roth Army Caesar
                    • Mar 2003
                    • 40648

                    Originally posted by DlocRoth
                    Nice little RB though. His moves were electrifying in those Avis TV spots.
                    I loved watching that bastard jump over those suitcases...

                    In all honesty...they were my favorite commercials growing up!!!
                    "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                    • POJO_Risin
                      Roth Army Caesar
                      • Mar 2003
                      • 40648

                      Originally posted by TFM_Dale
                      OJ was probably a bad choice for comparison, I meant it as a football player comparison and the fact that fame gets you ALOT of slack. All other comparisons are out the window.
                      I know...

                      but the funny thing about OJ is that everyone goes right to the black/white deal...

                      when the reality of the situation is that OJ had been "Uncle Tommed" years ago.

                      The brilliance of Cochran, and really, that whole team, is that they "Un-Tommed" him...

                      Then got ahold of Fuhrman, and made it look like he COULD have planted evidence...

                      Then the fucking glove...

                      I mean...seriously...the utter brilliance is incredible...and is only matched by the utter idiocy of the L.A. DA office...
                      "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                      • POJO_Risin
                        Roth Army Caesar
                        • Mar 2003
                        • 40648

                        Wasn't it Hertz?
                        "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                        • chefcraig
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Apr 2004
                          • 12172

                          Originally posted by TFM_Dale
                          OJ was probably a bad choice for comparison, I meant it as a football player comparison and the fact that fame gets you ALOT of slack. All other comparisons are out the window.
                          I was going to say, try Kobe. I thought it sort of odd for him to be calling anyone stupid or idiots, particularly fans in Colorado last week.

                          KOBE









                          “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                          ― Stephen Hawking

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                          • POJO_Risin
                            Roth Army Caesar
                            • Mar 2003
                            • 40648

                            Yeah...and truth of the matter is that fame is the great equalizer anyways...

                            unless you kill a dog...or shoot yourself in the leg...
                            "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                            • POJO_Risin
                              Roth Army Caesar
                              • Mar 2003
                              • 40648

                              Hahahaha...hadn't thought of Kobe in a long time...with regards to his hotel encounter with the chick who got bent over a chair an hour oh so after her boyfriend bent her over a chair...

                              nice...
                              "Van Halen was one of the most hallelujah, tailgate, backyard, BBQ, arrive four hours early to the gig just for the parking lot bands. And still to this day is. It's an attitude. I think it's a spirit more than anything else is."

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                              • chefcraig
                                DIAMOND STATUS
                                • Apr 2004
                                • 12172

                                Originally posted by POJO_Risin
                                Yeah...and truth of the matter is that fame is the great equalizer anyways...

                                unless you kill a dog...or shoot yourself in the leg...
                                Yep. You notice that Michael Vick had a pretty good season, but he still doesn't have a series of sponsors with endorsement deals knocking on his front door or sitting in his driveway.









                                “The greatest enemy of knowledge is not ignorance, it is the illusion of knowledge.”
                                ― Stephen Hawking

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