Mayweather - De La Hoya

**bastardog** · 04-19-2007, 02:33 PM

I voted for De La Hoya
Don't see any readon why....just that he have more money

...and a beautiful wife (MILF)

**chi-town324** · 04-19-2007, 03:24 PM

Mayweather

**DlocRoth** · 04-19-2007, 04:23 PM

I got your back, AL...

Waiting for Pojo to chime in on this one...LOL

Anyways, any halfway intelligent person will tell you that little Floyd is going to fucking DESTROY De La.....

Oscar is a warrior, no doubt. He's fought the best. He runs in the ring, but at least he signs up.

Pay the loot, AL.....Mayweather is gonna kill De La Hoya. Bet the farm, the kids, whatever you got.

Time to retire, Oscar.....bye now.

**bastardog** · 04-19-2007, 05:22 PM

OK,
My halfway intelligence say that Oscar is in his weigth 154 while Mayweather is going up to cash the figth
my halfway intelligence say that when you go heavier you loss speed....and thats the only tool Mayweather has (as per my halfway intelligence)
Then Oscar intelligence will play a big note in the ring (offcourse if he is not halfway intelligent as me)
Oscar fougth with better figthers than Mayweather so that experience is a plus on his side.
Oscar have more punch power (again as per my halfway intelligent brain) that Mayweather so that could change Mayweather plans on the ring.
And again.........Oscar have more money to buy the decision so lets see.

But again since is my halfway intelligence that tells me that, Mayweather would win.

**ALinChainz** · 04-19-2007, 11:10 PM

With a lot of fighters, you worry about another move up in weight class. Floyd is a master defensive fighter with the speed he has. I don't think Baldomir is nearly the fighter Oscar is, but he was going to brawl and rough up Mayweather and he barely touched him. Now of course, either over caution or brittle hands keep Floyd from the displaying the power punching he has, but to hit and not be hit, and to frustrate Oscar is the menu for May 5th.

I just don't see Oscar being able to catch Floyd, and will tire from the chase.

**redblkwht** · 04-21-2007, 10:57 AM

Im rooting for Oscar, the underdog & hope he shuts floyds big mouth up once and for all..

Hagler in his prime would have mopped the floor with both.

**ALinChainz** · 04-21-2007, 01:12 PM

Hagler in his prime was a bonafide middleweight, which is still one more weight class higher than these guys.

Floyd has moved up many weight classes because there aren't any big money fights in the divisions he was in. He's moved up 20 or so pounds.

No way Oscar catches him in my view, which many fans won't like, but its what wins for Floyd, he is a master defensive fighter with speed to burn.

That's not to say lightning doesn't strike, but I don't see it.

**DlocRoth** · 04-21-2007, 01:59 PM

Oscar is pretty quick too....

Just not quick enough.

Yo bastardog......

Don't be so hard on yourself...does the constant self belittling help you get chicks?

Cuz if you're just trying to be funny I gotta tell ya...it falls flat.

**redblkwht** · 04-23-2007, 03:32 AM

Originally posted by ALinChainz
Hagler in his prime was a bonafide middleweight, which is still one more weight class higher than these guys.

Floyd has moved up many weight classes because there aren't any big money fights in the divisions he was in. He's moved up 20 or so pounds.

That's not to say lightning doesn't strike, but I don't see it.

OK Hagler drops 20 lbs & beats both in one night with one arm tied behind his back..

case closed..

both are
over rated
clap clap clap clap clap..
lets go cubbies clap clap clap clap clap..

**binnie** · 04-23-2007, 03:51 AM

Mayweather will win a boring points decision, a chess match if you will.

He has never "destroyed" anybody because he aims simply to outpoint them, Jermain Taylor does exactly the same thing (he's going to have his ass handed to him if he gets in with Calzaghe)

Not a fan of Mayweather at all: unbelievably skilled he may well be, but he isn't a fighters fighter. Much like Roy Jones Jr his trainers, maangers have handpicked fighters they know he can beat and look good against. He's never really had to prove himself against the tough fighters in the divisions he's been in.

Case in point Welterweight: Baldomir was a journeyman who got lucky, Zab Judah was coming off a loss when he fought Mayweather. Why didn't he fight a real tough fighter like Margartta (I've spelt that incorrectly, I know!). And when he was at Junior Welter, why didn't he fight Ricky Hatton, who would just keep coming and coming never ceasing to throw punhces: that would have been a classic boxer-fighter match in my mind.

None of this is Floyd's fault, and I am not accusing him of ducking people, it's his mangement and so on handpicking people.

as for the De La Hoya fight, I reckon if you had Oscar in his prime he might have edged it, but I don't see him being able to catch Mayweather now: the extra weight may be a factor, and Oscar is going to be much bigger which may help him cut off the ring.

To my eyes, the only way Oscar beats Mayweather is to do what the only man who has ever run Flyod close did: Castillio applied constant pressure, and made Floyd dig deep. If oscar can do that, we might have a great fight on out hands.

I'd actually like to see Oscar win. Not only would it be a nice end to his career, but it might stop Mayweather retiring and make hime fight some of the other great fighters I've mention (I'd also like to see him fight Shane Mosely), the defeat could be the birth of a great figther, rather than a greatly skilled boxer.

**bastardog** · 04-23-2007, 10:58 AM

Originally posted by DlocRoth

Yo bastardog......

Don't be so hard on yourself...does the constant self belittling help you get chicks?

Cuz if you're just trying to be funny I gotta tell ya...it falls flat.

As if there is going to be a girl in this tread...

you said any halfway intelligent person will choose Floyd....and I took it to another level. Nothing important

The important thing is that I'm with Oscar on this figth for the first time

**ALinChainz** · 04-23-2007, 10:58 AM

Dude, NOBODY wanted to fight Margarito, and he he himself has ducked a few young guys like Paul Williams (pretty sure its Paul). Hatton was a prick in negotiations just as Mayweather was and in fact, decided to move back DOWN after what, 2 welterweight fights? He coudln't handle it. And look who he has fought and where.

Floyd thinks he should get the lion's share of all purses, which I don't agree with either. Look at how many fights he had when he won his first title, not many. Fought Castillo pretty early in his career. He started fighting the contenders early on. He has busted his hand more than once also, changes a fighter's style, he used to get the KOs.

The first sentence of your post I agree with however, the outcome. Mosely would be a good match-up because of the similarities.

**DlocRoth** · 04-23-2007, 02:15 PM

I agree, there won't be a KO...

Floyd will cruise on the card.

**binnie** · 04-24-2007, 05:59 AM

Originally posted by ALinChainz
Dude, NOBODY wanted to fight Margarito, and he he himself has ducked a few young guys like Paul Williams (pretty sure its Paul). Hatton was a prick in negotiations just as Mayweather was and in fact, decided to move back DOWN after what, 2 welterweight fights? He coudln't handle it. And look who he has fought and where.

Floyd thinks he should get the lion's share of all purses, which I don't agree with either. Look at how many fights he had when he won his first title, not many. Fought Castillo pretty early in his career. He started fighting the contenders early on. He has busted his hand more than once also, changes a fighter's style, he used to get the KOs.

The first sentence of your post I agree with however, the outcome. Mosely would be a good match-up because of the similarities.

Sorry, to clarify: I was saying that Floyd should have fought Hatton at Junior Welter (where Hatton is the champ), not at welter. Floyd didn't spend long enough in that division.

I actaully think Margarita would give Floyd a really good fight; and the Hatton fight would be a classic.

Mayweather - De La Hoya

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