Ronnie James Dio's Feelings About Vivian Cambell

[binnie]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Are you serious?

Ronnie:

Dream Evil; highly succesful tour with Megadeth (and others) opening the show. Introduced the world to Craig Goldy. Lock Up the Wolves; admittedly lackluster, but had a pretty good band (consisting of Jens Johansson and Simon Wright). Black Sabbath reunion Dehumanizer; rescued Sabbath from obscurity and gave them their most succesful U.S. tour in years. Almost universally hailed as the best Sabbath album since "Born Again"; paved the way to the legendary Costa Mesa reunion show with Ozzy Osbourne. Strange Highways; critically well received, considered by and large the better follow up to Dehumanizer, as opposed to Sabbath's "Cross Purposes". Decent tour revenue, considering the atmosphere for metal at the time. Angry Machines; another solid effort and tour. First full length live Dio album with "Inferno: Last in Live"; first concept album, "Magica"; Ronnie plays the entire album live in concert for the tour. Album reviewed as, essentially, a return to the classic Dio sound. Killing the Dragon, also followed in the same "classic Dio" vein and featured the best guitar work since Holy Diver. Evil or Divine: Live in New York DVD in addition to "Stand Up and Shout: The Dio Anthology", a 2 CD career retrospective spanning his solo work and history with Black Sabbath, Rainbow and Elf. Master of the Moon, another solid release. Performs the entire "Holy Diver" album live, in addition to rarely performed songs and releases it as a 2 CD set. Black Sabbath's "The Dio Years" released, with three new songs, well received across the board. The "Heaven and Hell" tour launched with the 1980-1982 Black Sabbath lineup of Ronnie Dio, Tony Iommi, Geezer Butler and Vinny Appice. RAVE reviews across the board. "Live at Radio City Music Hall" released as both a DVD and CD. Rhino Records releases "Live at Hammersmith Odeon 1981" from Black Sabbath as a limited edition of 5000 copies - album sells out immediately. Constant touring, fan meet and greets, autograph sessions, etc, between all of this.

Vivian Campbell over the last twenty years:

Joined Whitesnake to tour. Fired after the tour for a rotten attitude. Did a Riverdogs album. Did a Shadow King album. Did a solo album. Riding out the Def Leppard thing for fifteen years running while Def Leppard becomes more of a shadow of what they used to be. Tours with the likes of Bryan Adams and REO Speedwagon. Hates heavy metal and constantly talks shit about Ronnie James Dio at any given opportunity.

That's your compare and contrast lesson for today.

Bob, you really know your shit brother!

[binnie]

I've never heard a good word about Vivian as a person. Maybe he's pissed cos he got a girls name?

I actually quite like his playing, but the fact that he;s wasted his time playing rhythm in Def Leppard all these years suggests to me that he's really not much an artist, and is in it purely for the money.

Dio has always seemed like a decent guy, so I know who's side I;d be on.

[bueno bob]

Does Def Leppard REALLY make that much money anymore? I'm inclined to think not...

[binnie]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Does Def Leppard REALLY make that much money anymore? I'm inclined to think not...

Well, more than you or I by a considerable way I imagine. Back cataglogue and tour sales are probably a decent income.

My point is that he probably could have done something with his talents beyond being a hired hand, and he chose not too. What can he do this far down the line? Fuck all probably, so he's best of staying with Def Leppard.

If the guy had a real artistic yearning, he would have formed a band and got his shit out there, rather than taking the easy money playing "Pour some Sugar on Me" every night.

[bueno bob]

Absolutely. I mean, listening to Holy Diver or Last in Line (Hell, even moments of Sacred Heart) and you know the guy can fucking play if he wants to.

Or COULD...I'm not convinced he could do so anymore.

While I'd imagine Def Leppard still does OK, I'm sure it's not 1987 for them anymore.



But fuck, who cares? Their day in the sun ended around 1993 and they've been beating a dead horse ever since...I recently heard Joe Elliot whining that they're an 80's band not taken seriously, said "What I don't get is that BON JOVI still makes waves, why aren't we in the same catagory as they are?".

I just kinda had to laugh at that...

[bastardog]

Originally posted by bueno bob

Final Count -

Ronnie James Dio - 21

Vivan Campbell - 13 (7 of which were written with...you guessed it...RONNIE JAMES DIO - and the rest of which he didn't even contribute to the songwriting)

:D

Point proven? Good.

NEXT.

Sieg Heil Bob!

Simply Amaizing!

[bueno bob]

I so kick ass sometimes.

:D

[binnie]

Originally posted by bueno bob
I so kick ass sometimes.

:D

But with modesty, of course.

[binnie]

Originally posted by bueno bob

But fuck, who cares? Their day in the sun ended around 1993 and they've been beating a dead horse ever since...I recently heard Joe Elliot whining that they're an 80's band not taken seriously, said "What I don't get is that BON JOVI still makes waves, why aren't we in the same catagory as they are?".

I just kinda had to laugh at that...

LOL!!!!

That's like Jani Lane complaining recently that he's only "that Cherrpy Pie" guy.....

[NATEDOG001976]

Originally posted by bueno bob
Does Def Leppard REALLY make that much money anymore? I'm inclined to think not...

Def leppard is still a pretty big draw all over the USA. They have sold out the X, which seats 18,000 in St. Paul, MN a recently as 2004.

I don't thing the "Heaven and Hell" tour sold out the Target Center in Minneapolis last month, I guess they had 12,000 or so, I guess Megadeth was great, which is no shock.

[NATEDOG001976]

Def leppard have already made thier mark on rock, they have nothing to prove anymore. Bon Jovi really bugs the piss out of me. I never hear any band talk about Bon Jovi, but I heard a hell of a lot of bands new and old give praise to Def Leppard. You may not like Lep, but they are a great band.

[NATEDOG001976]

Taken from allmusic.com:

After participating in five classic studio albums (three with Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow and two with Black Sabbath) in the late '70s and early '80s, it seemed that singer Ronnie James Dio could do no wrong. And with the release of his self-monickered band's debut album, Holy Diver, in 1983, Dio struck gold once again by injecting catchy melodies into the classic metal riffery of his previous groups. Besides Dio's inspired songwriting, the album's consistency owes a lot to his carefully chosen bandmates, including veteran bassist Jimmy Bain and drummer Vinny Appice, "and a phenomenal find in young guitarist Vivian Campbell, whose creativity and technique are quite astounding". The album opens in full-tilt metal mode with the frenetic "Stand Up and Shout," which segues into the epic title track, an album highlight thanks to it's hypnotic, mid-paced riff. Dio himself plays keyboards (badly) on the hit single "Rainbow in the Dark," and the remaining cuts range from further stabs at pop-metal ("Gypsy," "Caught in the Middle") to blatant metal anthems ("Straight Through the Heart," "Invisible"). These two facets find a perfect balance on the excellent "Don't Talk to Strangers," arguably the album's high point.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
Def leppard have already made thier mark on rock, they have nothing to prove anymore. Bon Jovi really bugs the piss out of me. I never hear any band talk about Bon Jovi, but I heard a hell of a lot of bands new and old give praise to Def Leppard. You may not like Lep, but they are a great band.

My response to both Def Leppard and your posts about how great they are is the same.

[bueno bob]

Originally posted by NATEDOG001976
Taken from allmusic.com:

After participating in five classic studio albums (three with Ritchie Blackmore's Rainbow and two with Black Sabbath) in the late '70s and early '80s, it seemed that singer Ronnie James Dio could do no wrong. And with the release of his self-monickered band's debut album, Holy Diver, in 1983, Dio struck gold once again by injecting catchy melodies into the classic metal riffery of his previous groups. Besides Dio's inspired songwriting, the album's consistency owes a lot to his carefully chosen bandmates, including veteran bassist Jimmy Bain and drummer Vinny Appice, "and a phenomenal find in young guitarist Vivian Campbell, whose creativity and technique are quite astounding". The album opens in full-tilt metal mode with the frenetic "Stand Up and Shout," which segues into the epic title track, an album highlight thanks to it's hypnotic, mid-paced riff. Dio himself plays keyboards (badly) on the hit single "Rainbow in the Dark," and the remaining cuts range from further stabs at pop-metal ("Gypsy," "Caught in the Middle") to blatant metal anthems ("Straight Through the Heart," "Invisible"). These two facets find a perfect balance on the excellent "Don't Talk to Strangers," arguably the album's high point.

Cool!

I always go to Allmusic.com for reviews that matter. Shall we compare the "hits" again, Nate?

[bueno bob]

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