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  • Sarge's Little Helper
    Commando
    • Mar 2003
    • 1322


    Try reading. It may help out your arguing style.

    I don't listen to VAN HAGAR. I did listen to them as a second-rate VAN HALEN when I was younger. I can't even tell you when the last time I put on a VAN HAGAR CD was...at least a few years, idiot. As for SAMMY HAGAR, I've hated him my entire life. His shrieking, horrible singing was the thing I would try and ignore even back then to get to the guitar work until I finally realized that even Eddie is boring to me half the time. Dave is the main reason I like VAN HALEN...now more than ever.

    Here you go boy...some of my Links posts...the ones you never post...

    "I guess it still always boils down to opinion. I've heard Sammy say MANY things. I've heard him say that the original 6-pack were only good musically, I've heard him say that he'd go out and pick those albums up just for the guitar-work... Sam pretends he's a Van Halen fan, but the truth is, he doesn't even know all the band's songs. What I hate most about the Sammy-era was not just that I don't like Sam's stage-demeanor, voice, lyrics or politics...but also that the original Van Halen band was as dead as it could be. An entire song catalog was ignored, the band's image and attitude were more in-line with late 80's pop rock bands instead of the giant extraveganza they were in the late-70s and early-80s. And Sam simply acted as if this was the band. I've actually heard him in one interview call the Hagar-led Van Halen line-up "THE classic Van Halen". He really thinks he walked in and fixed up a broken band. And it disgusts me. But the thing I loved most about Van Halen in the 80s was that with all the horrible pop-rock bands around, Van Halen were sort of the rebels. They were huge, they sold tons of records...but they didn't jump on to the REO Speedwagon bandwagon...there's an episode of BEHIND THE MUSIC describing how Van Halen stood out in a cold, bleak time. Once Hagar joined...they WANTED to sound more like Journey, Styx, Def Leppard, etc. And that's fine...but you suddenly realized why the band thought Dave was controlling...he simply didn't want them going down that path."

    "Lyrics aren't necessarily what literally matter. I think James Brown accomplished more in his career with one song than Sam has in thirty years of mediocrity. Take SEX MACHINE...what's it about? Duh! But does it say it well? Damn straight! It's about attitude. Iggy Pop can tell you that any day. "I got a lust for life! Liquor and drugs!" Damn straight! It's not what's said, it's how it's said." People keep typing, "Nobody expects Van Halen to have intelligent lyrics." Absolutely right. But how about good lyrics? That's a totally different thing. MEAN STREET's lyrics surely aren't intelligent...but they sure are good. "Somebody said FAIR WARNING...Lord, strike that poor boy down!" Fuckin' A, Dave. That's a helluva lot more rock 'n' roll than "I can't stop lovin' you, no matter what I say or do, you no my heart is true...wo-oh...I can't stop lovin' you." C'mon...what is this? Grade 4 poetry day? Don't you think there's a reason that far more people would cringe at the second lyric? I'm not saying it's about comparing the intelligence of the two. I'm saying it's about the quality, attitude and originality. And the second lyric is about as original as taking off your clothes in a nudist colony."

    "See, dummy, this is the problem. You read lyrics like that, YOU don't get it. To you it doesn't mean anything, because you don't understand the value of good wordplay, of attitude in the writing. You'll be happy if the lyrics stay as dumb and unchallenging as, "You miss a beat, you lose the rhythm." Wow, that's so profound. That's like saying, "When I go down, I'm not going up." Wow. How deep. You'll never get it, so fans like you will keep making unbelievably stupid comments like THE INSIDE is better than ME WISE MAGIC. All it's about, oh Sambo-heads, is that we think one singer is better because the music he's produced is consistently better, and maybe we think he looks better on stage.
    "I can't stop lovin' you, no matter what I say or do, you know my heart is true...oh-ooh, I can't stop lovin' you." Yeah, Walt Whitman would be proud.
    "

    "Ridiculous...songs like "Voodoo Queen" are a million times better than horrible songs like "Spanked." And even with producers supervising, albums with Hagar are not nearly as timeless. Dave has been their first choice the last few years, so if it doesn't work out, music won't be the reason. There's obviously something personal. I would say Hagar will return only as a consolation prize for Dave not returning. Ed knows which of his songs are classics, and it sure ain't MAN ON A MISSION or SUCKER IN A 3-PIECE."

    "And I don't like Sammy, so if he rejoins, I don't have to listen. It's not a matter of anger or "showing" Eddie...it's just that, after the last few months of thinking about it, I really don't want to hear more Van Halen with Sammy Hagar singing. The truth is, I just don't like the guy. I think he's an idiot and an asshole. But hey, it's just music."

    "[/I]While I appreciate your idea, I just really want Dave back in the band full-time. If they don't want to do it, if they claim that can't happen, no problem. I don't have to listen.[/I]"

    Here's me in 2001, talking about YOU CAN'T GET THIS STUFF NO MORE:

    "Be interested to hear the original version with Hagar singing. He later sued the band and won a settlement, claiming the melody Dave is singing is (in certain parts) the same one he came up with and recorded for the BALANCE album. Maybe he was just mad because the song suddenly had some balls. Old foagie."
    Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.
    "I decided to name my new band DLR because when you say David Lee Roth people think of an individual, but when you say DLR you think of a band. Its just like when you say Edward Van Halen, people think of an individual, but when you say Van Halen, you think of…David Lee Roth, baby!"!

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    • Nickdfresh
      SUPER MODERATOR

      • Oct 2004
      • 49567

      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
      Indeed SHEEP! You fucking went to a VAN HAGAR concert. You Love SAMMY AND VAN HAGAR yet conveniently forget that fact when it suits you. Just like you hate the VH LINKS but can't stop thinking about it, all logic fails you fool.

      You are crazy, seriously.
      So when do we get this fight together? Will you PM me when all is ready?

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      • VH LINKS SUCKS
        Foot Soldier
        • Jan 2004
        • 639

        Originally posted by Rikk
        Try reading. It may help out your arguing style.

        I don't listen to VAN HAGAR. I did listen to them as a second-rate VAN HALEN when I was younger. I can't even tell you when the last time I put on a VAN HAGAR CD was...at least a few years, idiot. As for SAMMY HAGAR, I've hated him my entire life. His shrieking, horrible singing was the thing I would try and ignore even back then to get to the guitar work until I finally realized that even Eddie is boring to me half the time. Dave is the main reason I like VAN HALEN...now more than ever.

        Here you go boy...some of my Links posts...the ones you never post...

        "I guess it still always boils down to opinion. I've heard Sammy say MANY things. I've heard him say that the original 6-pack were only good musically, I've heard him say that he'd go out and pick those albums up just for the guitar-work... Sam pretends he's a Van Halen fan, but the truth is, he doesn't even know all the band's songs. What I hate most about the Sammy-era was not just that I don't like Sam's stage-demeanor, voice, lyrics or politics...but also that the original Van Halen band was as dead as it could be. An entire song catalog was ignored, the band's image and attitude were more in-line with late 80's pop rock bands instead of the giant extraveganza they were in the late-70s and early-80s. And Sam simply acted as if this was the band. I've actually heard him in one interview call the Hagar-led Van Halen line-up "THE classic Van Halen". He really thinks he walked in and fixed up a broken band. And it disgusts me. But the thing I loved most about Van Halen in the 80s was that with all the horrible pop-rock bands around, Van Halen were sort of the rebels. They were huge, they sold tons of records...but they didn't jump on to the REO Speedwagon bandwagon...there's an episode of BEHIND THE MUSIC describing how Van Halen stood out in a cold, bleak time. Once Hagar joined...they WANTED to sound more like Journey, Styx, Def Leppard, etc. And that's fine...but you suddenly realized why the band thought Dave was controlling...he simply didn't want them going down that path."

        "Lyrics aren't necessarily what literally matter. I think James Brown accomplished more in his career with one song than Sam has in thirty years of mediocrity. Take SEX MACHINE...what's it about? Duh! But does it say it well? Damn straight! It's about attitude. Iggy Pop can tell you that any day. "I got a lust for life! Liquor and drugs!" Damn straight! It's not what's said, it's how it's said." People keep typing, "Nobody expects Van Halen to have intelligent lyrics." Absolutely right. But how about good lyrics? That's a totally different thing. MEAN STREET's lyrics surely aren't intelligent...but they sure are good. "Somebody said FAIR WARNING...Lord, strike that poor boy down!" Fuckin' A, Dave. That's a helluva lot more rock 'n' roll than "I can't stop lovin' you, no matter what I say or do, you no my heart is true...wo-oh...I can't stop lovin' you." C'mon...what is this? Grade 4 poetry day? Don't you think there's a reason that far more people would cringe at the second lyric? I'm not saying it's about comparing the intelligence of the two. I'm saying it's about the quality, attitude and originality. And the second lyric is about as original as taking off your clothes in a nudist colony."

        "See, dummy, this is the problem. You read lyrics like that, YOU don't get it. To you it doesn't mean anything, because you don't understand the value of good wordplay, of attitude in the writing. You'll be happy if the lyrics stay as dumb and unchallenging as, "You miss a beat, you lose the rhythm." Wow, that's so profound. That's like saying, "When I go down, I'm not going up." Wow. How deep. You'll never get it, so fans like you will keep making unbelievably stupid comments like THE INSIDE is better than ME WISE MAGIC. All it's about, oh Sambo-heads, is that we think one singer is better because the music he's produced is consistently better, and maybe we think he looks better on stage. "I can't stop lovin' you, no matter what I say or do, you know my heart is true...oh-ooh, I can't stop lovin' you." Yeah, Walt Whitman would be proud."

        "Ridiculous...songs like "Voodoo Queen" are a million times better than horrible songs like "Spanked." And even with producers supervising, albums with Hagar are not nearly as timeless. Dave has been their first choice the last few years, so if it doesn't work out, music won't be the reason. There's obviously something personal. I would say Hagar will return only as a consolation prize for Dave not returning. Ed knows which of his songs are classics, and it sure ain't MAN ON A MISSION or SUCKER IN A 3-PIECE."

        "And I don't like Sammy, so if he rejoins, I don't have to listen. It's not a matter of anger or "showing" Eddie...it's just that, after the last few months of thinking about it, I really don't want to hear more Van Halen with Sammy Hagar singing. The truth is, I just don't like the guy. I think he's an idiot and an asshole. But hey, it's just music."

        "While I appreciate your idea, I just really want Dave back in the band full-time. If they don't want to do it, if they claim that can't happen, no problem. I don't have to listen."

        Here's me in 2001, talking about YOU CAN'T GET THIS STUFF NO MORE:

        "Be interested to hear the original version with Hagar singing. He later sued the band and won a settlement, claiming the melody Dave is singing is (in certain parts) the same one he came up with and recorded for the BALANCE album. Maybe he was just mad because the song suddenly had some balls. Old foagie."

        Hey Mr. Bullshit!

        Here something you had to say about liking Van Hagar !

        Ya right!

        Doesn't appear that way now does it douchebag!

        Giving praise?

        I think not LIAR!


        Songs from forgotten albums that now grace used CD bins like FOR UNLAWFUL CARNAL KNOWLEDGE or OU812 got rather lukewarm responses in many cases.




        and of course:









        “I love to definitely keep the sheep in line. And it's awesome to have dudes like me, you and Max out there fucking with them. We have to keep the message out there if we EVER want the situation rectified.”- pRikk


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        “You're right...I have to watch my mouth there if I ever want to keep appearing or else I'll get banned. I've already had run-ins with Brett in the past!!
        littleguitars99 is a cunt. I've had fights with that idiot before and he always says stupid shit. I try and ignore it. One of my least favorite cunts there is Motion Blur.”-pRikk


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        ” I've been fighting with GUWAPO all morning. He's a real cocksucker. He attacked the PEN, MAX and myself for no reason and his buddy PETE has finally been de-modded, partly because of this bullshit. Can you do me one favor, dude? Can you go into the non-VH forum and go into the thread GUWAPO started that insults me and tell him to shut the fuck up? The idiot deserves to be told off by as many people as possible. He's going down. He just doesn't know it yet BTW, here's the thread GUWAPO's been trying to trash me in.
        http://www.rotharmy.com/forums/show....3577”.-pRikk


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        ” Dude, can you do me a major favor? It would be the ultimate favor you could do right now.
        The SHEEP PEN has been moved by one person to non-MUSIC. The move hasn't been approved by all parties, and it can still be moved back. But we need support. Could you go to the following thread and post that you want it moved back to MAIN? Also, could you get anyone else you can think of to also post in that thread, asking it to go back to MAIN? It's the biggest thread in the site's history and it's been a great place for shearing sheep and having lots of fun. We're worked really hard on it and it would be a super-favor if you and anyone else you can think of could post in there asking the Webmasters to move it back. It doesn't have to be an angry post...just a request and maybe a statement of how much you love the Pen. We need all the support we can get right now.
        Thanks man.
        Erik”


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        “Awesome posts you and Dave did. That was great. Can you guys also do me a favor and put the same posts in the FEEDBACK TO THE WEBMASTER thread "The Pen does not belong in Main"? That's where the Webbies will look. Posts in there will really help!! Thank buddy.-pRikk


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        “07.28.02, 07:17 PM #39
        Rikk



        Eruption


        Posts: 1,126 (0.63 per day)
        Location: Burlington, Ontario, Canada
        Join Date: 03.01.00
        Favorite VH Album: 1984
        Favorite VH Song: Unchained



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        BLACK N' BLUE is one of my favorite Van Hagar songs. I like it so much because it is much rawer and reminds me of the Dave days. It's not nearly as polished as some of the other "corporate" stuff. It is probably the main reason OU812 is my favorite Van Hagar album. It's great to know that I'm not the only one who loves the song!

        As for CAN'T GET THIS STUFF NO MORE, the music was apparently written and recorded during the BALANCE sessions as "BACKDOOR SHUFFLE." Dave recorded new vocals over it for the BEST OF (ME WISE MAGIC was brand new), and Hagar apparently later sued the band because Dave slightly borrowed the melody on the chorus from Sam's original vocal (he had an out-of-court settlement for $5000).

        I agree. BLACK N' BLUE really was the last time the band released a hardcore rock n' roll single until HUMANS BEING, ME WISE MAGIC, and possibly WITHOUT YOU.”



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        I'm talking the '77 demos, outtakes from the Dave albums (I know for a fact there are a few unreleased and probably finished songs from DIVER DOWN and 1984 and probably one or two that have been written about from VH II), plus alternate takes or versions from these albums. Then you can move on to live stuff...there was apparently a 1984 live album that was recorded and partially mixed. Put some of that on this set (or ALL of it). Then move on to 5150 and the other albums, all having unreleased songs (there are maybe six from F.U.C.K., "I Want Some Action" from 5150 and a few from BALANCE). Get BETWEEN US TWO on a record finally, throw in the outtakes from VH3 and the second MACH III album if you have to, then close it off with the three tracks recorded with Dave in 2000. Done! That's more than enough for a box set if you throw in some retrospective live material and maybe a couple of Eddie demos.

        This is what the fans deserve.

        http://www.vhlinks.com/vbforums/sho...&highlight=Rikk


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        Originally posted by Rikk
        Yes, Roth is a joke as a solo artist now. Absolutely true. But as a member of VH, he's much more popular.

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49567

          Who's that faggot in the window?

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          • VH LINKS SUCKS
            Foot Soldier
            • Jan 2004
            • 639

            Originally posted by Nickdfresh
            Who's that faggot in the window?
            I bet you jerk off to that clip too eh dick?

            You and the rest of the sheep just can't get enough of that clip!

            Loser.

            I just busted your LIAR douchebag butt pal again with a contradictory statement about Van Hagar.

            First he praises them in his initial post and then he makes a negative comment about their releases...

            Typical bullshit by pRikk!

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49567

              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
              Who's that faggot in the window?
              So ALBERT, how was SAMMY's cock-bulge looking that night?

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49567

                Originally posted by VH LINKS SUCKS
                I bet you jerk off to that clip too eh dick?

                You and the rest of the sheep just can't get enough of that clip!

                Um, the only SHEEP are the ones in that clip asshole. Boy are you delusional!


                How was SAMMY's dick when you sucked it back stage?

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                • VH LINKS SUCKS
                  Foot Soldier
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 639

                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                  So ALBERT, how was SAMMY's cock-bulge looking that night?

                  It was hard to see the stage considering pRikk had sammy's cock in his mouth and jerking off michael with his hand.

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49567

                    Originally posted by VH LINKS SUCKS
                    It was hard to see the stage considering pRikk had sammy's cock in his mouth and jerking off michael with his hand.
                    You were there cunt, he wasn't SHEEP!

                    More ALBERTA lies...

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                    • VH LINKS SUCKS
                      Foot Soldier
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 639

                      Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                      Um, the only SHEEP are the ones in that clip asshole hole. Boy are you delusional!


                      How was SAMMY's dick when you sucked it back stage?

                      Learn who to use the quote feature moron!

                      And secondly, nobody was allowed backstage for the meet and greet because there was a lineup of douchebag fags and one in particular named Dickdfresh who had his mouth primed for sammy's nuts...

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                      • VH LINKS SUCKS
                        Foot Soldier
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 639

                        Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                        You were there cunt, he wasn't SHEEP!

                        More ALBERTA lies...
                        Looks like your fudgepacking pal can't come up with a faster response to contradicting van hagar and their album releases.

                        Figures.

                        And pRikk told me he saw van hagar and didn't see roth you
                        twit!

                        Enough of the effort trying to cover up his tracks douchebag.


                        (pRikk frantically searching the links for more quotes by me)

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49567

                          Originally posted by VH LINKS SUCKS
                          Learn who to use the quote feature moron!

                          And secondly, nobody was allowed backstage for the meet and greet because there was a lineup of douchebag fags and one in particular named Dickdfresh who had his mouth primed for sammy's nuts...
                          What are you talking about douche licker?

                          Wow, you really got me there...I was backstage yet I was not caught on camera staring at SAM's asscrack. No ALBERT, you were present and reporting for ball-licking. FAG!

                          So, did Van Hagar sound good that night? Was their version "feel So Good" making you take of your bra and panties and throw them throw on stage?

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49567

                            Albert, sad little VAN HAGAR lover driven to the ROTH Army. How does it feel to be rejected by bi-Haleners?

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                            • Nickdfresh
                              SUPER MODERATOR

                              • Oct 2004
                              • 49567

                              I noticed there is no girl around you ALBERT. Is that your homosexual tendencies? Or is it that females sense your loser-aura of 38-year-old home liver?

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                              • vanzilla
                                Veteran
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 1777

                                Who's the dickhead spamming this place? WTF is his problem?
                                Just because the title "moderator" is under my name doesn't mean I have to be nice to cunts like you. - DLR7884 to FPC

                                Vanzilla's New "Can't Get This Stuff No More" Video Coming Soon!

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