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  • kwame k
    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
    • Feb 2008
    • 11302

    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    He went Caligula on the whole site with some sort of madness but the main problem is that he knew shit about how websites work.

    When the site started getting slow he thought he had to delete old posts to make it quicker. I was over running DDLR with Von, Conmee was probably snorting coke off a stripper and I don't know if anyone else was consulted but he decided to pointlessly delete a couple of forums.

    I don't want to sound grandiose about that but to me that's like going into a library with a flamethrower except worse because at least in a library there are other copies. It's happened twice here now in the last 16 years and we also lost the DDLR site posts. I think that's a damn shame and the biggest reason for me to step up here.
    Deleting the pr0n should be an automatic lifetime ban

    It was real crazy here and like I said before..........you guys over at DDLR were great to us refugees!

    Your problem over there was with the server service, if memories serves.
    Originally posted by vandeleur
    E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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    • kwame k
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Feb 2008
      • 11302

      Originally posted by TFM_Dale
      fags
      I'll post mean personal pictures with words on them if you don't take that back!

      You've been warned
      Originally posted by vandeleur
      E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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      • TFM_Dale
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Jan 2009
        • 7943

        Originally posted by cadaverdog
        Be careful what you wish for. I'd ban your ass asap just for shits and giggles.
        You would miss me too much.

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35199

          Originally posted by kwame k
          Deleting the pr0n should be an automatic lifetime ban

          It was real crazy here and like I said before..........you guys over at DDLR were great to us refugees!

          Your problem over there was with the server service, if memories serves.
          We got screwed.

          The bottom line was a stupid bill in a series of stupid bills for $400 to bring the site back up which we thought was complete bullshit. It was a bullshit bill about some non shit and we got stubborn on it. Again in hindsight maybe $400 for all those posts and memories was worth it but by that point with Mezro gone from here, some other stuff with the band less relevant, I was up to my ears in babies and building a new company it didn't make sense to not just come back here.

          After a while I was made a moderator again.

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          • kwame k
            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
            • Feb 2008
            • 11302

            Originally posted by Seshmeister
            I'm a bit more belligerent on here.
            Well, yeah............calling Dubya a cocksucking motherfucking son of a whore cunt might confuse my nieces and nephews on my FB page!

            Plus my mom will actually call me and bitch me out if I say fuck or goddamn on FB page

            "You know your young nieces and nephews read your page and you should know better!" says mom!

            46 years old and my brothers and I give money monthly to my parents and I still get that phone call
            Originally posted by vandeleur
            E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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            • TFM_Dale
              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
              • Jan 2009
              • 7943

              Originally posted by kwame k
              Kinda addressing a few other posts combined with yours, Va!

              My staying away really had nothing to do with Jay and Lounge being attacked...........they're big boys and could handle themselves. I thought it was absolutely beyond decency invading people's businesses and personal lives or going full on racist and said so but neither one asked me ever to come and defend them, for the record.

              Going after Dale's family was a bigger reason.
              People taunting Angel when she was going through that horrible time with family issues! That level of meanness and then the thread where people were posting actual real life suicide pictures taunting someone.........those three things combined really did it.

              No drugs, alcohol, blackouts, personal grudges or jilted love can justify the levels that a bunch of people sunk to here.........they were always those type of people inside and the booze or anger just brought it out. Not really the type of people you want to hang with in your off time.

              Those people are more to blame for people leaving here then the mods!

              As far as Sesh or any mod is concerned..........we made our peace and things are back to the way they always were with us.

              The irony is hilarious, though. Sesh replaces the original lead singer of this site and sites jump up all over the place bemoaning the loss of the original lead singer and how the band was so much better with Sarge at the helm

              No matter what you do Sesh or have done, that will always be the case. Shitty deal but..........



              Yeah, what united us was rallying around Dave and hating Spammy!

              The site got a second life and was cooking when Dave got back and all the perks we were getting from DDE. A new album and a comeback tour kept this place going for awhile but now that they're pretty much content to be an oldies act and releasing live albums from the last fucking tour instead of the glory years, took a ton of steam out of the engine. I agree 100%!

              FB is what killed the site, though.

              30 or so of the longtime members here and I still stay in touch through FB. It's convenient, it's private and it just seems easier without having to worry about privacy issues or personal attacks on family or businesses.

              You can choose who you want to deal with as opposed to an open forum.

              Add in all the good and legendary trolls are gone and that was half the fun........logging in after work to see what bizarre and creepy things Katy or whoever was posting. There were some strange ass fuckers here and the flame wars were funnier. It used to be you won the argument through humor and not rancor for the most part but things did get nasty here then so it's not a new phenomenon, just seemed different and more vile the last round.

              I still post here and will continue to when the mood strikes! Just not a highlight of my day like it used to be.

              I wouldn't say I was ran off, just a combination of things kinda put me off..........real life is partly to blame, too.

              Once I stayed away it just got easier to continue to stay away.

              Things change and people move on.........That's Life
              Seshy Hagar!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You just made my fucking night bro!

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              • Terry
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jan 2004
                • 11962

                Reading through all these posts, I am for some reason reminded of that scene in Spinal Tap where Tap's manager responds to inquiries of the dwindling audiences on their latest tour, which can be paraphrased to apply here:

                It's not that the Roth Army is dead. The site is just becoming more selective in its membership.

                Nah, I kid.

                I mean, who the fuck knows? A combination of everything mentioned by everyone else above? Christ, I still remember the DDLRND days of close to 20 years ago...and Slawterhouse...and then davidleerothfans started up and splintered the membership...and then the salad/halcyon days of 2004-2006...and then more splinter/breakaway sites...in some ways this site really didn't come back as strong after it went down for several months in - what the fuck was it? 2009? 2010?

                As already mentioned above, there was a spike in 2012. Different people come here (or used to) for different things. Yeah, it has kinda devolved into a bunch of flaming trolls vs. longtime site icon stalwarts war posts as of late. Hey, fuck it. Call it what it is. What's the remedy? More nun porn? The return of Arielle Bot? Censoring/banning members? Turning the place over to Flappo and Grimsdale? Should a remedy even be applied, even if a solution was found? And what would anyone be looking to solve, anyway?

                Maybe the site mirrors the man it's named after, in that the best days are in the past, and there's just no way to restore the army to what it was. Perhaps a requiem is premature. I mean, the site is still here. The gang may be different, but how many gangs stay together forever, anyway?

                Whatever happens, it has been a fun ride.
                Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                • TFM_Dale
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2009
                  • 7943

                  Originally posted by kwame k
                  If Sesh is the Spammy of the site.........does that make Va the Mitch Malloy of the site?

                  Discuss
                  Not sure on that but Von would be Mikey

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                  • TFM_Dale
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Jan 2009
                    • 7943

                    Originally posted by chefcraig
                    The thing is, the guy was/is an honestly decent fellow, privately. I still do not get this whole misguided wisdom of prompting up one's shoulders and attitude for an internet persona.
                    A guy that posted your private messages to him, real stand up guy

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                    • Seshmeister
                      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                      • Oct 2003
                      • 35199

                      Originally posted by kwame k
                      Well, yeah............calling Dubya a cocksucking motherfucking son of a whore cunt might confuse my nieces and nephews on my FB page!

                      Plus my mom will actually call me and bitch me out if I say fuck or goddamn on FB page

                      "You know your young nieces and nephews read your page and you should know better!" says mom!

                      46 years old and my brothers and I give money monthly to my parents and I still get that phone call
                      It's funny when after a few beers it spills into the real world. This has happened a few times and it's not gone well.

                      a) Walk into a bar to meet a few pals and a guy I don't know is saying how 9-11 was done with government drones - I do 10 minutes explaining how he is a fucking idiot like I would on here before realizing in real life that's fucking obnoxious and then apologize.

                      b) Explaining to my close relatives the exact reasons why they are wrong believing in organized religion.

                      And so on...

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                      • kwame k
                        TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                        • Feb 2008
                        • 11302

                        Originally posted by Seshmeister
                        We got screwed.

                        The bottom line was a stupid bill in a series of stupid bills for $400 to bring the site back up which we thought was complete bullshit. It was a bullshit bill about some non shit and we got stubborn on it. Again in hindsight maybe $400 for all those posts and memories was worth it but by that point with Mezro gone from here, some other stuff with the band less relevant, I was up to my ears in babies and building a new company it didn't make sense to not just come back here.

                        After a while I was made a moderator again.
                        Fuck.......I wouldn't of paid that much money either!

                        Regrets about preserving old memories.........there's photos, some of my original music and other memorabilia that got lost, left or misplaced that I would love to have today!
                        Originally posted by vandeleur
                        E- Jesus . Playing both sides because he didnt understand the argument in the first place

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                        • TFM_Dale
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2009
                          • 7943

                          Originally posted by kwame k
                          I'll post mean personal pictures with words on them if you don't take that back!

                          You've been warned
                          You came up with Seshy Hagar, you can do whatever you want.

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                          • TFM_Dale
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 7943

                            Originally posted by Seshmeister
                            After a while I was made a moderator again.
                            and VH brought Sammy back before also, coincidence? I think not!

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                            • TFM_Dale
                              ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                              • Jan 2009
                              • 7943

                              Originally posted by kwame k
                              Well, yeah............calling Dubya a cocksucking motherfucking son of a whore cunt might confuse my nieces and nephews on my FB page!

                              Plus my mom will actually call me and bitch me out if I say fuck or goddamn on FB page

                              "You know your young nieces and nephews read your page and you should know better!" says mom!

                              46 years old and my brothers and I give money monthly to my parents and I still get that phone call
                              I hear you, almost 40 (shoot me now) and anytime my wife or I mention buying something or doing something within ear shot of a mom we get the "Now do you really need that?" Yet they need 47 copies of Magnum PI on DVD and an Ipad loaded with shit that originated on stone tablet.

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                              • Seshmeister
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 35199

                                Originally posted by TFM_Dale
                                Seshy Hagar!!!!!!! BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You just made my fucking night bro!
                                I don't want to over play the analogy but I see myself more as a skinnier sexier older Wolfgang trying to keep the old legacy going while getting unfair shit from people who just don't like the way things have played.
                                We get blamed for you people getting older and providing an alternative to NOTHING!

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