A Christian Can Be a Christian or a Liberal, But He Can’t Be Both

[Cathedral]

Ford, Shut Up...The bible clearly speaks out against homosexuality.

Leviticus 18-20
Specifically Lev 19 verse 22, and I quote: Thou shalt NOT lie with mankind, as with womankind: It is an "abomination".

Also, Romans 2 verses 25 - 32 (Read it, you will be enlightened)

Ford, you speak of that which you are ignorant in, therefore you decieve the people of this board in the name of Jesus Christ.

May God have pity on your soul, my brother.

[Cathedral]

A true Christian chooses neither party as a label. He votes what is most in line with Christianity, and that is not a vote for the Democratic Party.
They hardly ever consider themselves one or the other.

A Christian who votes for a Democrat will have an awful lot of explaining to do come Judgement Day.

[Guitar Shark]

Cat, don't you see the inherent contradiction between this statement..

Originally posted by Cathedral
A true Christian chooses neither party as a label.

and this one?

Originally posted by Cathedral
A Christian who votes for a Democrat will have an awful lot of explaining to do come Judgement Day.

And by the way, isn't Leviticus a book from the Old Testament? I thought the question was whether Jesus ever said homosexuality was a sin.

[FORD]

Originally posted by Cathedral
Ford, Shut Up...The bible clearly speaks out against homosexuality.

Leviticus 18-20
Specifically Lev 19 verse 22, and I quote: Thou shalt NOT lie with mankind, as with womankind: It is an "abomination".

Also, Romans 2 verses 25 - 32 (Read it, you will be enlightened)

Ford, you speak of that which you are ignorant in, therefore you decieve the people of this board in the name of Jesus Christ.

May God have pity on your soul, my brother.

Jesus didn't write Leviticus or Romans. And the rulebook for an obscure sect of ancient priest, or the opinions of a man known for being extremely hateful and prejudiced, can not be attributed to Jesus, who wasn't even present on this planet when either was written.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Cat, don't you see the inherent contradiction between this statement..

No, i don't. A Christian will cast a vote based on who supports their values. It is their right to do so in an attempt to keep the immoral out of office.
Which if it weren't for the believers, this country would have done itself in a long time ago.
It's a checks and balances type of situation.



and this one?
No again, Because the Liberal Party supports those things which are an abomination to God. It's hard to be blessed by God if you support the murder of innocent children in the womb while reaming your buddy Dave in the rumper.

Silence is not an option for the faithful Christian so a choice must be made based on faith, and values.




And by the way, isn't Leviticus a book from the Old Testament? I thought the question was whether Jesus ever said homosexuality was a sin.

The Trinity states that The father, The Son and The Holy Ghost are one in the same.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by FORD
Jesus didn't write Leviticus or Romans. And the rulebook for an obscure sect of ancient priest, or the opinions of a man known for being extremely hateful and prejudiced, can not be attributed to Jesus, who wasn't even present on this planet when either was written.

Don't waste your spin on me, tell it to your maker. It is clear what the "Word" of God is on this matter.

If Jesus hadn't been sentenced to death by a Liberal mind (cared nothing for truth or facts), who knows what else he would have said to his followers.

[ODShowtime]

Re: A Christian Can Be a Christian or a Liberal, But He Can’t Be Both

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Saint, you might as well say farewell to our government’s recognizing Christmas and adios to Good Friday if you’re going to vote the liberal ticket. If the secularists have it their way, Easter will be behind your keister, and you can kiss the Cross good-night as an acceptable public symbol that represents your faith and our nation’s recognition of Christ’s atoning work.

First of all, there's no need to bring holidays into this. Everyone loves holidays!

Second, saying that soon Christians won't be able to wear crosses in the US because of bad liberals is some of the most inciteful nonsense I've ever read.

[HELLVIS]

Originally posted by Cathedral
The Trinity states that The father, The Son and The Holy Ghost are one in the same.

Man, you're good Cathedral. I was just reading through this thread and planning to reply once I'd read it all. But, you beat me to the punch on every angle I planned to take. I think I'll just step back and let you work. You seem to have the dogs on a shorter chain than they realize. I guess that's why they keep choking themselves.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Cathedral
The Trinity states that The father, The Son and The Holy Ghost are one in the same.

Cat, that went straight over their heads concerning who wrote the Bible.

[FORD]

Bottom line is that GOD didn't write one word of the Bible. The words of Jesus in the Gospels were probably the closest you'll get to a direct quote, and even those are interpreted slighltly different between the 4 Gospels.

Moses and Paul were both murderers, so they were hardly perfect beings. What they wrote contained many of their own prejudices. Let's not forget that shortly before writing Romans, Paul was stalking Christians and killing them for fun.

These guys were hardly infallible.

[Cathedral]

Hey, I'm just sitting here browsing while eating my dinner. It got cold on this subject, lol.

I am just amazed at how people lean to their own understanding, myself included, I am no angel.

Feel free to jump in though, the water is plenty warm.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by FORD
Bottom line is that GOD didn't write one word of the Bible. The words of Jesus in the Gospels were probably the closest you'll get to a direct quote, and even those are interpreted slighltly different between the 4 Gospels.

Moses and Paul were both murderers, so they were hardly perfect beings. What they wrote contained many of their own prejudices. Let's not forget that shortly before writing Romans, Paul was stalking Christians and killing them for fun.

These guys were hardly infallible.

Dude, there isn't one single person that ever has or will walk this earth that is "infallible" besides Jesus himself, and even he wasn't perfect.

Your reasoning of all things is terribly ignorant by damn near every standard it could be.

But we all know now that you think the bible is just a novel written by men.
Like i said, May God have mercy on your soul...

[HELLVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
Bottom line is that GOD didn't write one word of the Bible. The words of Jesus in the Gospels were probably the closest you'll get to a direct quote, and even those are interpreted slighltly different between the 4 Gospels.

Moses and Paul were both murderers, so they were hardly perfect beings. What they wrote contained many of their own prejudices. Let's not forget that shortly before writing Romans, Paul was stalking Christians and killing them for fun.

These guys were hardly infallible.

You are correct sir!
God didn't write it. Men did.
However, Jesus never denied any of the old testament. He only stated that was then this is now ( in so many words ).
With that being said, if one is to quote Jesus and the new testament as truth and the old testament as fallacy. He then is, in effect calling Jesus a liar, therefore nullifying his own argument.

[HELLVIS]

Damn, do people really talk like this?
It's like Wayne's World. We're a bunch of dumb-ass rockers waxing philosophic.

[ELVIS]

Let's hear you spin more of the Bible, FORD...