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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    #61
    Originally posted by Denny
    YEAP!!!!!

    Have a Nice Day™
    BTW...FUCK YOU Denny.

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    • ODShowtime
      ROCKSTAR

      • Jun 2004
      • 5812

      #62
      My most communist hippy thought:

      We need a goddamn salary cap on CEOs. No matter what happens in industry, no matter what kind of labor cost increases, no matter what happens to raw material supply, no matter what kind of gov't intervention reduces prices, the god damned executives make the same cut.

      Yeah yeah, it's competition and employment economics. They need CAPPED. Cut right the fuck off around a couple million per year. I don't give a fuck how long it took you to get your MBA or who's dick you had to suck, these people get paid WAY TOO MUCH.

      And the conflicts of interest that the their performance bonuses cause is what creates the accounting scandals and the backlash into the markets.

      too bad they're in charge of everything. Oh well.
      gnaw on it

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      • DrMaddVibe
        ROTH ARMY ELITE
        • Jan 2004
        • 6686

        #63
        Nick do you ever take ownership of your OWN behavior?

        Is everyone else the reason for your failures? Do you dream up new and exciting tales from the darkside to deflect the possibility that YOU are your own worst enemy?

        I'm really glad I took the opportunities to become educated and am motivated to make the best of everyday I'm above ground level. Obviously whatever it is you see in being a negative drain to the endless possibilities that are in front of you is working for you...carry on. I really won't get in your way, I'm too busy making more money!
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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59649

          #64
          Originally posted by BigBadBrian


          My biggest gripe against Wal-mart are the shitty products it sells.

          And why are they shitty products? You think the fact that they're made in third world sweatshops might have something to do with it? Comes full circle back to greedy ass corporations wanting to get by with cheap labor.
          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


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          • WACF
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jan 2004
            • 2920

            #65
            Originally posted by ODShowtime
            My most communist hippy thought:

            We need a goddamn salary cap on CEOs. No matter what happens in industry, no matter what kind of labor cost increases, no matter what happens to raw material supply, no matter what kind of gov't intervention reduces prices, the god damned executives make the same cut.

            Yeah yeah, it's competition and employment economics. They need CAPPED. Cut right the fuck off around a couple million per year. I don't give a fuck how long it took you to get your MBA or who's dick you had to suck, these people get paid WAY TOO MUCH.

            And the conflicts of interest that the their performance bonuses cause is what creates the accounting scandals and the backlash into the markets.

            too bad they're in charge of everything. Oh well.
            That is a very good point!

            It is amazing what some CEOs get....then they turn around and tell you do to do more with less because "we need to compete"....it's all a game.
            They take care of themselves first...

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            • ODShowtime
              ROCKSTAR

              • Jun 2004
              • 5812

              #66
              I thought I was gonna get slayed for that one...
              gnaw on it

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              • Nickdfresh
                SUPER MODERATOR

                • Oct 2004
                • 49567

                #67
                Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                Nick do you ever take ownership of your OWN behavior?

                Is everyone else the reason for your failures? Do you dream up new and exciting tales from the darkside to deflect the possibility that YOU are your own worst enemy?

                I'm really glad I took the opportunities to become educated and am motivated to make the best of everyday I'm above ground level. Obviously whatever it is you see in being a negative drain to the endless possibilities that are in front of you is working for you...carry on. I really won't get in your way, I'm too busy making more money!
                Oh yeah, so it's about me now Mr.SaddVibe.

                Mr.SaddVibe: No facts or logic=personal attack!

                I can really tell you are so educated Mr.SaddVibe. It's all the unions fault!

                Working people getting ahead=Creeping socialism.

                Corporate executives that lie, cheat, steal, and disrupt the economy=The American Way according to AssVibe.

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                • BigBadBrian
                  TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 10625

                  #68
                  Originally posted by ODShowtime
                  My most communist hippy thought:

                  We need a goddamn salary cap on CEOs. No matter what happens in industry, no matter what kind of labor cost increases, no matter what happens to raw material supply, no matter what kind of gov't intervention reduces prices, the god damned executives make the same cut.

                  Uh...no.

                  A good portion of the salary a CEO gets is usually directly tired to how well a company is doing, either through stock-options or bonuses. Their direct salary is usually fairly small in comparison.

                  When you read of CEO's making out quite well, usually the company, and hence all levels of the workforce, are doing quite nice as well.

                  BTW, if we allow the government to regulate CEO salaries, can the regulation of all salaries and wages be far behind?
                  “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                  • DrMaddVibe
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 6686

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                    Oh yeah, so it's about me now Mr.SaddVibe.

                    Mr.SaddVibe: No facts or logic=personal attack!

                    I can really tell you are so educated Mr.SaddVibe. It's all the unions fault!

                    Working people getting ahead=Creeping socialism.

                    Corporate executives that lie, cheat, steal, and disrupt the economy=The American Way according to AssVibe.
                    .Mr.SaddVibe: No facts or logic=personal attack! - What was the pic of the guy and the toilet? How's bout I start calling you Lil Dick instead seeing how you can't type my moniker correctly and the "gloves are off". You take this internet thing way too fucking serious. Nobody is going to make you "god of the world" because you type here.

                    I can really tell you are so educated Mr.SaddVibe. It's all the unions fault! - I can tell with the attitude you display that you aren't! You live in a naive world where everyone is out to get you and it's always a gloomy day. Your life experiences show how sheltered and childish you are. I'm glad the "union" thing is "working" for you.

                    Working people getting ahead=Creeping socialism. - No Lil Dick dumbfuck it's called free enterprise. You work harder than others and see your dream through then you get rewarded. You can sit in your dark shelter and wait for Death to come and wipe us off of the globe...I'll be doing something!

                    Corporate executives that lie, cheat, steal, and disrupt the economy=The American Way according to AssVibe. - I've never said that. Give me your address and I'll buy Hooked On Phonics and a fucking Dictionary for you so you can not only read but perhaps you'll come to understand the words.

                    EVERYTHING is all about YOU lil' Dick. You're the one with the big ideas. You're the one that can tell right from wrong. You're the only one that can stand up with an opinion. You're the only one that has to go out on a bender on everyone here, so yeah...it is all about you lil' Dick. It's all about YOU showing us all reading your rants here that you're a lil' Dick! You're right.
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                    • ODShowtime
                      ROCKSTAR

                      • Jun 2004
                      • 5812

                      #70
                      One thing YOU won't be informing ME about is executive compensation.

                      Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                      Uh...no.

                      A good portion of the salary a CEO gets is usually directly tired to how well a company is doing, either through stock-options or bonuses. Their direct salary is usually fairly small in comparison.

                      and the conflicts of interest that the their performance bonuses cause is what creates the accounting scandals and the backlash into the markets.
                      BTW, if we allow the government to regulate CEO salaries, can the regulation of all salaries and wages be far behind?
                      Now that would be a good point if not for the example set by the NFL. Stopping ridiculous excess is different than communism. Common sense would have to be involved. That's another reason why it's a pipe dream.
                      gnaw on it

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                      • Nickdfresh
                        SUPER MODERATOR

                        • Oct 2004
                        • 49567

                        #71
                        Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
                        .Mr.SaddVibe: No facts or logic=personal attack! - What was

                        EVERYTHING is all about YOU lil' Dick. You're the one with the big ideas. You're the one that can tell right from wrong. You're the only one that can stand up with an opinion. You're the only one that has to go out on a bender on everyone here, so yeah...it is all about you lil' Dick. It's all about YOU showing us all reading your rants here that you're a lil' Dick! You're right.
                        Yeah right AssVibe, we'll just reference your posts in the Tsunami thread for that one.

                        Tell me all about right form wrong.

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                        • DrMaddVibe
                          ROTH ARMY ELITE
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 6686

                          #72
                          Just did...lil' Dicko!
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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49567

                            #73
                            Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                            Uh...no.

                            A good portion of the salary a CEO gets is usually directly tired to how well a company is doing, either through stock-options or bonuses. Their direct salary is usually fairly small in comparison.

                            When you read of CEO's making out quite well, usually the company, and hence all levels of the workforce, are doing quite nice as well.

                            BTW, if we allow the government to regulate CEO salaries, can the regulation of all salaries and wages be far behind?
                            Like ENRON? For the most part yes. But since you guys are citing examples of bad union policies, I think I am entitled to respond with extreme example of bullshit coporate hedonism, and the general attitudes of precuninary emulation that enable this bullshit.

                            I also hear examples of CEO's that jump from company-to-company and basically cause the companies to self-destruct because they pursue policies that emphasize excessive short-term growth to provide the illusion or exaggerration of success and burn the company out in the process, destroying it. But it doesn't matter to them because they are long gone after cashing in the inflated stock options!

                            That's the latest way to make a buck I hear, and totally legal!

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                            • ODShowtime
                              ROCKSTAR

                              • Jun 2004
                              • 5812

                              #74
                              Originally posted by Nickdfresh

                              I also hear examples of CEO's that jump from company-to-company and basically cause the companies to self-destruct because they pursue policies that emphasize excessive short-term growth to provide the illusion or exaggerration of success and burn the company out in the process, destroying it. But it doesn't matter to them because they are long gone after cashing in the inflated stock options!
                              Exactly Nick. This is a good way to explain a lot of the outsourcing of jobs too. Who the fuck cares how many towns you destroy when you can get a cool boat!
                              gnaw on it

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                              • DrMaddVibe
                                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 6686

                                #75
                                There's nothing new under the Sun.

                                Don't make it out like Greed was just invented.
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