Was World War II Worth It?

[4moreyears]

Originally posted by kentuckyklira
Some, like me, really don´t want to see the USA succeed in Iraq. And the reason is, that we believe invading harmless third world countries just because you can isn´t exactly the way to go, and if it takes the Iraq mess up to avoid such things in the future, so be it!

Because we can, that is exactly why we did it. What a dumb ass.

[4moreyears]

Originally posted by FORD
Where's the distortion in that video? Every word of it came from Junior's mouth.

As for the Cheney/Scarface video, I thought it was very creative. And it's not like there isn't a lot of parallells between Scarface and the BCE.

Drug dealing murderers who built their empire in Miami using Cubans.... yep, sounds about right to me.

Not saying those words were not spoken by Bush but they were various speaches that were spliced together to make it look like the president was saying complete sentances that he never said. The Kerry thing is different. He finishes his complete thought and another opposite complete thought which contradicts the previous is uttered out of his crowd pleasing lips.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by lucky wilbury
[B]
nope. nothing but coups a quick history:

http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/section/iran_history.asp

In 1921, Reza Khan, an army officer, effected a coup and established a military dictatorship.

In 1951, the National Front movement, headed by Premier Mussadegh , a militant nationalist, forced the parliament to nationalize the oil industry and form the National Iranian Oil Company (NIOC). Although a British blockade led to the virtual collapse of the oil industry and serious internal economic troubles, Mussadegh continued his nationalization policy. Openly opposed by the shah, Mussadegh was ousted in 1952 but quickly regained power. The shah fled Iran but returned when monarchist elements forced Mussadegh from office in Aug., 1953; covert U.S. activity was largely responsible for Mussadegh's ousting.

Mussadegh was elected.

the military wont be needed in iran.

I would love nothing more than to see Iranian students coupled with factions of their regular military topple the Islamicists and reflect the true will of the people there.

but who was caught "abusing" prisnors? who were the knuckleheads taking pictures? it was their own fault.

The MI and Sp Ops knew better.

sunni groups are already saying they'll stop if they can be involved with the next set of elections and if we spare saddams life

I think I posted something on that like six-months ago. We are not going to defeat these insurgents soley through military means. Some sort of political accomadation should be reached. SADDAM should die though after a fair trial.

but qadafi has dance with islamic jihad amoung others who laid the ground work for al queda. it was suspected he has in the past worked with egyptian islamic jihad a group that has since merge with al qadea.

The Egyptians were Q's enemy #1 in the 80's. Of course he exploited the situation any way he could.

His downfall really began when his Soviet equiped military using the latest armor was outflanked and neutered by a bunch of Chadians in Toyota pick-ups.

i don't think we'll be having anymore "fabulous" problems any more

But we might have a few "fabulous" aliasses to contend with unfortunately. But it will stop when she finds somewhere else to stalk. She's never coming back this time.

Ally might want to keep an eye on this...

[lucky wilbury]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Mussadegh was elected.

he was only prime minister by the shah but he grew to powerful for the shah. he as prime minster was overthrown

the the Majlis is the Iranian parliament

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mohammed_Mossadeq

A while later, the Majlis voted for Mossadegh as new prime minister. Aware of Mossadegh's rising popularity and political power, the young Shah was left with no other option but to give assent to the Parliament's vote. Shortly after coming to office, Mossadegh enforced the Oil Nationalization Act, which involved the expropriation of the AIOC's assets.