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  • Nickdfresh
    SUPER MODERATOR

    • Oct 2004
    • 49567

    Update:

    Bush vows to fire anyone who committed crime in CIA leak

    Monday, July 18, 2005; Posted: 1:37 p.m. EDT (17:37 GMT)

    WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush told reporters Monday that if anyone committed a crime in connection with the leak of a CIA agent's identity, "they will no longer work in my administration."

    He would not, however, discuss the possible role Karl Rove or other administration officials may have played in the exposure of CIA officer Valerie Plame after her husband questioned a key piece of the Bush administration's case for war with Iraq.

    At a brief news conference following a meeting with Indian Prime Minister Manmohan Singh, Bush said, "We have a serious ongoing investigation here, and it's being played out in the press. I think it's best if people wait until the investigation is complete before you jump to conclusions. I don't know all the facts. ... I would like this to end as quickly as possible. And if someone committed a crime, they will no longer work in my administration."

    On Sunday, Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper told CNN's "Late Edition" that Rove told him Ambassador Joseph Wilson's wife was a CIA agent involved with weapons of mass destruction in a July 2003 conversation after Wilson had raised questions about one of the arguments underpinning the invasion of Iraq.

    "After that conversation, I knew that she worked at the CIA, and worked on WMD issues," said Cooper, who appeared last week before a grand jury investigating the leak. "But as I made clear to the grand jury, I'm certain Rove never used her exact name and certainly never indicated she had a covert status."

    Cooper said Rove ended the conversation by telling him, "I've already said too much."

    He also said that Lewis "Scooter" Libby, Vice President Dick Cheney's chief of staff, confirmed the information.

    The reporter recounted his 2 1/2 hours before the grand jury in a Time magazine article this week and on Sunday talk shows. In the Time article, he said he asked Libby "if he had heard anything about Wilson's wife sending her husband to Niger. Libby replied, 'Yeah, I've heard that, too' or words to that effect."

    Cooper told NBC's "Meet the Press" that he regarded that as confirmation of what Rove had told him.

    The controversy dates back to the furious debate over the 2003 invasion of Iraq and the claims that Baghdad was harboring a nuclear weapons program in violation of U.N. sanctions. In his 2003 State of the Union address, with war looming, President Bush told the nation that British intelligence had evidence that Iraq had sought to obtain uranium from Africa.

    Nearly three months after Baghdad fell to U.S. troops, Wilson disclosed that the CIA asked him to travel to Niger in 2002 to investigate that allegation, and that he had reported back to the agency that the report was unlikely. The resulting controversy prompted the administration to back off the claim, though CIA Director George Tenet said Wilson's report had been inconclusive.

    Eight days after Wilson's account appeared in The New York Times, syndicated columnist and CNN contributor Robert Novak identified Plame as a CIA operative in a column that suggested that Plame was responsible for sending her husband to Niger to investigate the uranium report. Novak cited two senior administration officials in his column.

    A lawyer familiar with grand jury testimony in the case said Friday that Novak told Rove that Plame was a CIA agent, not the other way around. The lawyer said Rove responded to Novak, 'I heard that, too.' "

    Novak declined to comment on the report, citing a lawyer's advice.

    Rove, the architect of Bush's campaigns for governor of Texas and president, now serves as deputy White House chief of staff. Leading Democrats are calling for him to be fired, or at least have his security clearance yanked for the duration of the investigation.

    In October 2003, after CIA officials requested a criminal investigation of the leak, White House spokesman Scott McClellan said neither Rove nor Libby played any role in the leak. McClellan said anyone found to have leaked classified information would be fired -- a pledge Bush himself reaffirmed in June 2004.

    Republican Party Chairman Ken Mehlman told CNN's "Late Edition" that Rove -- long considered one of the most aggressive strategists in American politics -- is the victim of an "unprecedented" partisan smear campaign by Democrats.

    "They're trying to have short-term political gain and smear a good man," Mehlman said. "And it's wrong, and they should apologize for it."

    But Sen. Joseph Biden, D-Delaware, said the issue was "so much bigger than Karl Rove."

    "The underlying issue here is, whether or not Joe Wilson said things rightly or wrongly, he was right -- flat right -- that Niger was not selling yellowcake to Iraq, which was a justification for going to war," Biden said. "This was all about whether or not those who had access to intelligence information in this administration used it appropriately, not just whether or not the agency was right."

    He added, "Anybody who's ever made a mistake in this administration has never paid at all. Everyone who has been right in this administration has been fired."

    Republican spokesmen have accused Wilson of lying about the origins of his mission and say his report actually bolstered the report -- which later turned out to have been bogus -- that Iraq had sought uranium from Niger.

    Wilson called his wife's exposure an act of political retaliation that ended her career. But some observers have questioned whether Plame, then assigned to Washington, met the definition of an undercover agent in the 1982 law that makes revealing the identity of an American spy a felony.

    Wilson has said that the CIA considered her exposure to be a crime when it sought a Justice Department investigation of the matter.

    "The CIA would not have frivolously referred this to the Justice Department if they did not believe a possible crime had been committed," he told CBS' "Face the Nation."

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    • DLR'sCock
      Crazy Ass Mofo
      • Jan 2004
      • 2937

      Originally posted by academic punk
      Okay. I will. Gore was a lousy candidate.

      But only in the sense that he was not a "seller", which is what a "candidate" is. He WAS the VP for eight years, and distinguished himself as a completely competent and knowledgable administrator.

      How was Gore not a campaigner? He apologized to Bush in the midst of a debate for his math in the previous debate. BUsh's math was all over the place, making unfounded and just plain wrong claims, but never once did he ever retract his statements.

      THAT'S how you win a campaign. It makes you seem incompetnet to say "I was wrong". Howveer, it's NOT how you actually run the country once you get the office. Bush's administration has made far too many mistakes - to the cost of people's lives and livelihoods - to keep pretending that they are always right.

      Bush on the other hand can sell himslf with his "aw, shucks, I'm a Washington outsider just like y'all" very well, but look to Rove and Cheney to actually be the weavers of the actual web.

      Bush is essentially Redford in "The Candidate". An absoluytely brilliant campaign, wins, and then realizes what he's gotten himself into and then says, "Now what?"

      I agree with this 1000%, although in 2000 I voted for Nader never ever believing that there were of that many brain dead and gullible fools that bought Bush campaign's bullshit, propoganda and lies, boy will I never make that mistake again....I forgot how foolish and uninformed people are...........

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      • DLR'sCock
        Crazy Ass Mofo
        • Jan 2004
        • 2937

        Oh, so now it has to be a crime after it is seen "so far" that Fatso didn't technically commit a crime. Hmmmmmmmm I am sure he did though, when he told his aide, and that said aide then leaked it to Miller..., although Cooper said yesterday that Rove did tell him....

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        • Nickdfresh
          SUPER MODERATOR

          • Oct 2004
          • 49567

          This is getting interesting:

          Cheney staff chief tied to CIA leak
          By PETE YOST
          Associated Press
          7/18/2005


          I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby was a source for article identifying CIA officer.

          Associated Press
          Matthew Cooper says Karl Rove told him, at end of call, "I've already said too much."

          WASHINGTON - Vice President Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was a source along with President Bush's chief political adviser for an article on Time magazine's Web site that identified an undercover CIA officer, Time reporter Matthew Cooper said Sunday, further countering White House contentions that neither aide was involved in the leak.

          In an effort to quell a chorus of calls to fire deputy White House chief of staff for policy Karl Rove, Republicans said that Rove originally learned about CIA officer Valerie E. Plame's identity from the news media. That exonerates Rove, the Republican National Chairman Ken Mehlman said on NBC's "Meet the Press," and Democrats should apologize.

          But it is not clear that it was a journalist who first revealed the information to Rove.

          A lawyer familiar with Rove's grand jury testimony said Sunday that Rove learned about the CIA officer either from the media or from someone in government who said the information came from a journalist. The lawyer spoke on condition of anonymity because the federal investigation is continuing.

          In a first-person account in this week's issue of Time magazine, Cooper writes that during his grand jury appearance Wednesday, special prosecutor Patrick J. Fitzgerald "asked me several different ways if Rove had indicated how he had heard that Plame worked at the CIA." Cooper said Rove did not indicate how he had heard.

          The White House's assurance in 2003 that Rove was not involved in the leak of the CIA officer's identity "was a lie," said John D. Podesta, White House chief of staff in the Clinton administration. He said Rove's credibility "is in shreds."

          Until last week, the White House had insisted for nearly two years that Libby and Rove had no connection to the leak. Plame's husband is a Bush administration critic, former Ambassador Joseph C. Wilson IV, the top U.S. diplomat in Iraq at the start of the Persian Gulf War and a former ambassador to Gabon.

          The White House refused last week to repeat its denials about Rove's involvement. The refusal came amid the disclosure that Rove told Cooper on July 11, 2003, that Wilson's wife apparently worked at the CIA and that she had a role in arranging a trip he took to Africa at the CIA's behest in 2002 to inquire whether Iraq was trying to obtain uranium ore for alleged weapons of mass destruction. The White House on Sunday declined to comment about Libby, saying the investigation was ongoing.

          The CIA sent Wilson to check out whether the government of Niger had sold yellowcake to Iraq for possible use in nuclear weapons.

          Five days before Rove spoke with Cooper, Wilson had written an op-ed article for the New York Times suggesting that the Bush administration had twisted prewar intelligence, including a "highly doubtful" report that Iraq had bought nuclear materials from Niger.

          Libby and Rove were among the unidentified government officials who provided information for a Time article about Wilson, Cooper said on "Meet the Press."

          Cooper also said that there might have been other government officials who were sources for his article. Time posted "A War on Wilson?" on its Web site July 17, 2003.

          In his first-person account, Cooper said Rove ended their telephone conversation with the words, "I've already said too much." Cooper speculated that Rove could have been "worried about being indiscreet, or it could have meant he was late for a meeting or something else."

          "This was the first time I had heard anything about Wilson's wife," Cooper wrote of his phone call with Rove.

          Cooper also had a conversation about Wilson and his wife with Libby. According to Cooper, "Libby replied, "Yeah, I've heard that too' or words to that effect" when Cooper asked whether Libby had heard anything about Wilson's wife having a role in sending her husband to Niger. Cooper's testimony about Libby came in August 2004, after Libby, like Rove this month, provided a waiver of confidentiality, Cooper said.

          Rep. Roy Blunt of Missouri, the third-ranking House Republican, and Wilson clashed on CBS' "Face the Nation." Blunt said many people in Washington understood that Plame worked at the CIA and went to its headquarters every day. It "certainly wouldn't be the first time that the CIA might have been overzealous in sort of maintaining the kind of top-secret definition on things longer than they needed to," Blunt said.

          Wilson pointed out that his wife "was covered according to the CIA, and the CIA made the referral" to the Justice Department for a criminal investigation.

          Wilson said friends and neighbors of the couple did not know that she worked for the CIA and that they understood her to be "an energy analyst, an energy consultant."

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          • academic punk
            Full Member Status

            • Dec 2004
            • 4437

            Originally posted by DLR'sCock
            Oh, so now it has to be a crime after it is seen "so far" that Fatso didn't technically commit a crime. Hmmmmmmmm I am sure he did though, when he told his aide, and that said aide then leaked it to Miller..., although Cooper said yesterday that Rove did tell him....
            The real issue - at least the one that is most pronounced at thsi time -0 is that the White House consciously and deliberately duped the public. Two years ago they claimed NO involvement or knowledge in this whole matter.

            Suddenly, it's apparent that there was...a LITTLE. The they try to say "Oh, but Rove is a hero, here's what actually happened", and then suddenly Cooper's tesimony contradicts the WH's latest statements. What's it going to take? These people are CORRUPT. They are DUPLICITOUS. They LIED and are HYPOCRITES.

            Take off the blinders. Sure the glare is painful, but at least you'll be able to see.

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            • Nickdfresh
              SUPER MODERATOR

              • Oct 2004
              • 49567

              Originally posted by academic punk
              The real issue - at least the one that is most pronounced at thsi time -0 is that the White House consciously and deliberately duped the public. Two years ago they claimed NO involvement or knowledge in this whole matter.

              Suddenly, it's apparent that there was...a LITTLE. The they try to say "Oh, but Rove is a hero, here's what actually happened", and then suddenly Cooper's tesimony contradicts the WH's latest statements. What's it going to take? These people are CORRUPT. They are DUPLICITOUS. They LIED and are HYPOCRITES.

              Take off the blinders. Sure the glare is painful, but at least you'll be able to see.
              It's called "moving the goalposts."

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              • Warham
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Mar 2004
                • 14589

                Now that the press have blown their wads over this story, we'll find out the truth when that investigation is completed. I'm sure Rove will be found innocent of any wrongdoing, and the libs can move on to the next round of trying to destroy Bush's presidency.

                * Rathergate - Failed
                * Club G'itmo - Failed
                * Execute Karl Rove for treason - Will Fail
                * ???

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                • Guitar Shark
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7579

                  You might gain a little bit of credibility if you stopped referring to the opposition as "libs" or "liberals" in every post, War. It isn't just liberals who are uneasy about these events.
                  ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                  Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                  Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                  • Warham
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 14589

                    So you are saying that conservatives are worried about Club G'itmo and Karl Rove, GS?

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                    • Guitar Shark
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7579

                      Some, yes. Absolutely.
                      ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                      Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                      Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                      • Warham
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 14589

                        And I'm sure some liberals like George W. Bush too. Would that be a good assumption?

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                        • Guitar Shark
                          ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 7579

                          Sure, I suppose so. :D
                          ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                          Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                          Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                          • Nickdfresh
                            SUPER MODERATOR

                            • Oct 2004
                            • 49567

                            Originally posted by Warham
                            So you are saying that conservatives are worried about Club G'itmo and Karl Rove, GS?
                            There's a difference between conservatives and Neo Cons WAR. Some conservatives still care about the truth and justice. Neo Cons are habitual liars that have begun to believe their own bullshit.

                            Neo cons have created a new al Qaeda, and their failed policies are causing more terrorist attacks, and the very real possibility of another military defeat in IRAQ. The surest sign of this is the nukes talk.

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                            • Warham
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Mar 2004
                              • 14589

                              How about terrorists are the cause of more terrorist attacks? That might be putting too much of a spin on it, or might require jumping through too many hoops. Our 'failed policies' didn't seem to be a factor in all the bombings they did prior to 2003.

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                              • Guitar Shark
                                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 7579

                                Originally posted by Warham
                                How about terrorists are the cause of more terrorist attacks? That might be putting too much of a spin on it, or might require jumping through too many hoops.
                                It also totally ignores the root causes of what motivates people to turn to terrorism.

                                Seriously War, you should start seeing the "gray" in life once in a while.
                                ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                                Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                                Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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