Rove Spoke To Time Reporter Before CIA Agent's Name Leaked

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Then you won't mind going over that list with me and figuring out just what is fact and fiction. You aren't getting away that easy! Dismissing it without even reading it first. Shame on you!

Fine, let's get an independent counsel to investigate this? Oh wait, CLINTON's the most investigated PRESIDENT in history...

Let's move into the present and do the same.

[Warham]

Chicken...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Chicken...

I don't feel like rehashing pointless shit from the past...

Do you have iTunes WAR?

[Warham]

No, I don't.

How is it?

[thome]

Originally posted by Serling
If I give you a stolen gun and you go out and murder someone with it, I HAVE STILL BROKEN THE LAW.

What ROVE did is considered a TREASONABLE ACT. Wake up.

A little slower next time?

What part of Released the info to the public do you not GET?

[thome]

Any honest american concerned as you are. If accidental info
came into your hands would you try a make a Buck on it.??

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
No, I don't.

How is it?

Pretty good really, I no longer buy the lossless tunes. But they give you free "Podcasts" now, I'm listening to AL FRANKEN skewer the prick whole slagged Clinton with lies and really, really shitty "reporting." In fact he admits he's made many factual errors in the book, but he did it for money more than anything else...And many of his biggest critics are conservatives.

Ed KLEIN is his name.

[DLR'sCock]

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Bush Doesn't Respond to Question About Rove
Spokesman Says Anyone Working at White House Has President's Confidence
By PETE YOST, AP


APPresident Bush with Karl Rove in September of 2003

WASHINGTON (July 12) - After two days of questions, the White House said Tuesday that President Bush continues to have confidence in Karl Rove, the presidential adviser at the center of the investigation into the leak identifying a female CIA officer. Meanwhile, prominent Democrats are calling for Rove to be fired.

Bush did not respond to a reporter's question Tuesday about whether he would fire Rove, in keeping with a June 2004 pledge to dismiss any leakers of Valerie Plame's identity.

At a White House briefing afterward, spokesman Scott McClellan was pressed about Rove's future.

''Any individual who works here at the White House has the confidence of the president. They wouldn't be working here at the White House if they didn't have the president's confidence,'' McClellan said.

The White House said two years ago that Rove wasn't involved in the leak. According to a July 2003 e-mail that surfaced over the weekend, Rove told Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper that the woman ''apparently works'' for the CIA. It added that the woman had authorized a trip to Africa by her husband, U.S. Ambassador Joe Wilson, to check out allegations that Iraq had tried to buy uranium from Niger for nuclear weapons.

At the time of Rove's conversation with Cooper, Wilson had accused the Bush administration of manipulating intelligence to justify the invasion of Iraq.

Cooper's e-mail is now in the hands of federal prosecutors who are hunting down the leakers inside the Bush administration who revealed Plame's name to the news media.


The Players




The revelation about Rove prompted Democratic calls for Bush to follow through on his promise to fire leakers of Plame's identity.

Former Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry of Massachusetts said Tuesday that ''Karl Rove ought to be fired.'' With Kerry on Capitol Hill was Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, D-N.Y. a possible 2008 presidential contender, who indicated her agreement with Kerry's view.

''I'm nodding,'' she told reporters.

The issue triggered 61 questions during two press briefings Monday by McClellan. It was McClellan who had provided the previous assurances about no role for Rove, but he refused to repeat those assurances Monday.

''Did Karl Rove commit a crime?'' a reporter asked McClellan.

''This is a question relating to an ongoing investigation,'' McClellan replied.

McClellan gave the same answer when asked whether President Bush has confidence in Rove, the architect of the president's successful political campaigns.

The investigation was ongoing in 2003 when McClellan assured the public Rove wasn't involved, a reporter pointed out, but the spokesman refused to elaborate.


Multiband:
Rove Under Fire for Revelation

Broadband:
The Revelation: Is It a Crime?
McClellan Gets a Grilling


In September and October 2003, McClellan said he had spoken directly with Rove about the matter and that ''he was not involved'' in leaking Plame's identity to the news media. McClellan said at the time: ''The president knows that Karl Rove wasn't involved,'' ''It was a ridiculous suggestion'' and ''It's not true.''

Rove's own public denials at the time and since have been more narrowly worded: ''I didn't know her name and didn't leak her name,'' Rove said last year.

Democrats pressed Bush to act.

''The White House promised if anyone was involved in the Valerie Plame affair, they would no longer be in this administration,'' said Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev. ''I trust they will follow through on this pledge. If these allegations are true, this rises above politics and is about our national security.''

Democratic consultant Paul Begala, appearing on ABC's ''Good Morning America'' Tuesday, said Rove has both a legal problem and a political problem.

He said the legal issue should be resolved by the grand jury. Begala also said the White House has a political problem because ''people are going to look at this crowd and say, Gee, we can't trust a thing they say after the WMD (weapons of mass destruction) controversy.' ''



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New York Times reporter Judith Miller is in jail for refusing to reveal who in the administration talked to her about Plame.

Cooper had also planned to go to jail rather than talk, but at the last minute he agreed to cooperate with investigators when a source, Rove, gave him permission to do so. Cooper's employer, Time Inc., also turned over Cooper's e-mail and notes.

One of the e-mails was a note from Cooper to his boss in which he said he had spoken to Rove, who described the wife of former U.S. Ambassador and Bush administration critic Joe Wilson as someone who ''apparently works'' at the CIA, Newsweek magazine reported.

It said ''Wilson's wife'' - not CIA Director George Tenet or Vice President Dick Cheney - authorized a trip by Wilson to Africa. The purpose was to check out reports that Iraq had tried to obtain yellowcake uranium for use in nuclear weapons.

Rove's conversation with Cooper took place five days after Plame's husband suggested in a New York Times op-ed piece that the Bush administration had manipulated intelligence on weapons of mass destruction to justify the invasion of Iraq. Wilson's trip to Africa provided the basis for his criticism.

Robert Luskin, Rove's lawyer, said his client did not disclose Plame's name. Luskin declined to say how Rove found out that Wilson's wife worked for the CIA and refused to say how Rove came across the information that it was Wilson's wife who authorized his trip to Africa.


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[Warham]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Pretty good really, I no longer buy the lossless tunes. But they give you free "Podcasts" now, I'm listening to AL FRANKEN skewer the prick whole slagged Clinton with lies and really, really shitty "reporting." In fact he admits he's made many factual errors in the book, but he did it for money more than anything else...And many of his biggest critics are conservatives.

Ed KLEIN is his name.

I've heard of that guy.

I've heard about podcasting but haven't really checked it out yet.

[blueturk]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
I guess its just business as usual in Washington then, huh?

That's pretty much how it's always been done.

What makes you Democrats so fucking special just because a Republican is now in Office?

With all due respect BBB, fuck you. I'm not even a Democrat in the first fucking place. You haven't heard me praising Clinton, Kerry, or anybody else for that matter. You have heard me criticize Dubya, because I just happen to think that George W. Bush is an ignorant, arrogant, and corrupt spoiled rich boy who basically lucked into the presidency, and in his greed and ignorance is fucking things up royally, with a little help from his friends. I guess I just don't like the guy.

"I promise you I will listen to what has been said here, even though I wasn't here." —George W. Bush, speaking at the President's Economic Forum in Waco, Texas, Aug. 13, 2002

[Warham]

Speaking of Waco and unethical...

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
I've heard of that guy.

I've heard about podcasting but haven't really checked it out yet.

It is cool, there are a lot of radio shows I want to check out, I jumped to FRANKEN first (even though he is a little boring) 'cause we only get right wing radio in Buffalo, not just RUSH, we actually have a local lunatic as well. That's fine, sometimes I listen to RUSH. But it's all one way here and not very fair and balanced...

Anyways, the PODCASTS come in 16 min. segements. And it's all free.

[Serling]

Originally posted by thome
A little slower next time?

What part of Released the info to the public do you not GET?

Don't play the rube. This kind of thing went on, and was PUBLICLY condemed, By George Bush senior when he was head of the C.I.A. in the 1970's.
Dishonestly disregarding the crime committed by Carl Rove disqualifies you from any serious political discussion.

Rove needs to be put on trial for treason, plain & simple. He purposely jeapordized the well being of a active C.I.A. agent.

[Serling]

Originally posted by thome

What part of Released the info to the public do you not GET?

READ THE PRESIDENTS LIPS

The INFORMATION would NEVER have GOTTEN INTO the hands of the reporter if not given to said reporter, in a ACT OF TREASON, by one CARL ROVE.

Have you ever had a LOGIC class?

A+B=C not B=C


A+B=C

Pay attention.

[Big Train]

I have to go with Thome on this one, partly. Your gun metaphor is a bit whacky.

While I agree Rove has to answer for what he did, to use your metaphor, he only loaded the gun. A bullet did not have to go off. The report and newspaper, errr, weapon, intentionally chose to publish that information. Information they could have just as easily kept to themselves and still had a great story. It isn't like they aren't familiar with the concept of being moderately vague , it is what they specialize in.