Rove Spoke To Time Reporter Before CIA Agent's Name Leaked

[Serling]

You miss the point Big Train. I'll reiterate.

Leaking the name of a C.I.A. operative IS A FEDERAL CRIME.

STOP

Right there. The gist of the matter.

CARL ROVE committed TREASON.

If he told you, me, Captain Kangaroo.......it DOES NOT MATTER.

The leaking of the name of a CENTER INTELLIGENCE AGENCY operative IS AN ACT OF TREASON.

It need go no further.

The Newspaper acted in an unethical manner, no argument. Novak & company should be prosecuted.

ROVE set everything else in motion.

[Big Train]

I've GOT that and have agreed with you on it.. Your intentionally missing my point. If leaking the name to a private party is treason, how can disseminating it in a widely read public forum be anything less?

Hang them all high I'm saying.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by Serling
You miss the point Big Train. I'll reiterate.

Leaking the name of a C.I.A. operative IS A FEDERAL CRIME.

STOP

Right there. The gist of the matter.

CARL ROVE committed TREASON.

If he told you, me, Captain Kangaroo.......it DOES NOT MATTER.

The leaking of the name of a CENTER INTELLIGENCE AGENCY operative IS AN ACT OF TREASON.

It need go no further.

The Newspaper acted in an unethical manner, no argument. Novak & company should be prosecuted.

ROVE set everything else in motion.

She reports to work everyday at a desk, she's not a Field Operative and even if Rove had spoken her name it would only be a crime if she had been in the field within the past 5 years.

And that is the question i want answered.
If she has been under cover in a covert operation within the last 5 years then Rove may very well be fired for what he did.

In my opinion he is guilty just for saying it was "Wilson's Wife", but unless she was active in the last 5 years, there is no crime.

Not to mention the fact that the CIA considered her identity "Compromised" long before this shit hit the fan.
Someone did some talking way before Karl Rove stepped into the picture.

But if Rove did something wrong i hope they throw the freakin book at him for it. I find it shocking that people under investigation still retain their security clearance.

Something stinks, and i'd like to know what it is exactly.

I'm not one for conspiracy though. I require proof before i jump on any wagons.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
I've GOT that and have agreed with you on it.. Your intentionally missing my point. If leaking the name to a private party is treason, how can disseminating it in a widely read public forum be anything less?

Hang them all high I'm saying.

Because classified information is intentionally leaked to the press all the time by the White House, or the Pentagon, or whomever in gov't. It's done as a means to garner support, discredit conspiracies, do hatchet jobs on political opponents, whatever. It's not the press' job to decide which information provided through unofficial gov't channels is to be reported and which information is to be kept hidden.

The press, to some extent, has to decipher what is "classified" in order to protect secrets, and what is classified in order to protect gov't blundering. Obviously, they shouldn't report about stories that would jeopordize terrorist investigations and the like, but if ROVE puts this info out, it's totally on him.

The press is often used by the gov't to sell their talking points, in fact, TIME magazine was used during Operation DESERT SHIELD to discredit Saddam HUSSEIN when they received "classified" files on the ex-Iraqi dictator from anonymous sources at the CIA in order to justify the war against him. Of course, the CIA had these same files when he was our ally, but they remained secret then. The Pentagon Papers are a good example of classification in order to hide bungling, of the Vietnam war in that case. If the gov't is going to release classified material to achieve short sighted goals and expect it to be reported, then they have to not expect journalists to act as declassification authorities when information they don't want out there is released by whistle-blowers or by partisan hacks like ROVE. That would amount to a cover-up.

The fucked up thing about all this is that the journalist that reported nothing and wrote nothing on this is sitting in jail due to her refusal to reveal sources and the conservative journalist that actually spouted off the name remains on CNN.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Warham
Finally, the Bush administration has committed an unethical gaff. A few more, and they'll catch up to the previous administration.

You sound like a fuckin' clown when you type something like that.

[Warham]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
You sound like a fuckin' clown when you type something like that.

Really? Perhaps you missed the link to the Top 50 Unethical Actions of the Clinton administration I posted last night. It'd be worthy checking out before you make these kinds of rash, uninformed statements.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Warham
Really? Perhaps you missed the link to the Top 50 Unethical Actions of the Clinton administration I posted last night. It'd be worthy checking out before you make these kinds of rash, uninformed statements.

Oh ok, so this Rove shit is gw&friends FIRST "unethical gaff?"

Is treason a gaff?

Seriously dude, you're slipping. I know you don't have much to work with these days.

And for the last time, comparing Clinton to bush is useless. No one cares. No one in here except you gives a shit. Because gw&friends' treachery is ocurring now and it's getting thousands of people killed!

[thome]

I believe Rove could have been reprimanded fired whatever, in
house policy . I also blame the journalist for sensationalising
all this BS thats what they do they don't care what happens as long
as the Magazine SELLS. Where is the "Thread about Ethics in Media."


"How Rumors ruined The Earths Future "
Posted in Some Alien Fish wrap ..................(I Know )

How constant finger pointing and false and just.. hyped up reporting
screwed everyones head up.

90% of all fights are due to overloaded mouths?

[Warham]

If he didn't break the law, how is that treason, OD?

You liberals really need to wait until this investigation is over before you get all rabid about Karl Rove. Seriously.

And the comparison was in jest (but in reality, we all know it's true). Perhaps you don't have a sense of humor anymore. I still do. I think you need to settle down a little bit and stop taking some of this stuff so seriously. Seriously.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Warham
If he didn't break the law, how is that treason, OD?

You liberals really need to wait until this investigation is over before you get all rabid about Karl Rove. Seriously.

And the comparison was in jest (but in reality, we all know it's true). Perhaps you don't have a sense of humor anymore. I still do. I think you need to settle down a little bit and stop taking some of this stuff so seriously. Seriously.

I sincerely believe it's in poor taste to be constantly complaing about Clinton when real people are really being killed because of real criminal actions. There is NOTHING funny about it.

[Warham]

Clinton killed plenty of people too, OD, and because of real criminal actions...

It doesn't matter if it's one person or two thousand. It's bad period.

Now you can continue lecturing me about being PC on the Roth Army.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by Warham
Now you can continue lecturing me about being PC on the Roth Army.

I'm not lecturing you. Offend away, I don't care. I'm just sharing my opinion on your crass remarks.

[Big Train]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
Because classified information is intentionally leaked to the press all the time by the White House, or the Pentagon, or whomever in gov't. It's done as a means to garner support, discredit conspiracies, do hatchet jobs on political opponents, whatever. It's not the press' job to decide which information provided through unofficial gov't channels is to be reported and which information is to be kept hidden.

The press, to some extent, has to decipher what is "classified" in order to protect secrets, and what is classified in order to protect gov't blundering.

Your logic is a bit off to me. Saying "Sources think he may have weapons" (About a public figure) is very much different than "Sources say Plame's wife is an active CIA agent". One is just an accusation someone can refute and move on. The other is an accusation that someone could be killed for, just to remove doubt. Why people can see the seriousness of that, I don't know.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Big Train
Your logic is a bit off to me. Saying "Sources think he may have weapons" (About a public figure) is very much different than "Sources say Plame's wife is an active CIA agent". One is just an accusation someone can refute and move on. The other is an accusation that someone could be killed for, just to remove doubt. Why people can see the seriousness of that, I don't know.

It in fact was kept under-wraps (by the woman in jail). It was leaked by NOVAK, and he's off the hook apparently.

My only point is that you seem to be saying that the media should never report anything that is classified because it's a violation o f law. Well, they often do with government sanction.

The people who actually got this from ROVE are the ones suffering the most, whereas ROVE and NOVAK, the two most guilty parties have had yet to have their comeuppance.

[Warham]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
I'm not lecturing you. Offend away, I don't care. I'm just sharing my opinion on your crass remarks.

That's OK. It did it's job.

The very fact that we are discussing it proves my point.