Not Another Rove Thread

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
Bush has always said he would fire somebody who broke the law, but NOT until the investigation is complete. Apparently, Democrats are willing to be the judge, jury and executioner before the findings come out. That is typical of liberals though.

NO! He said he would "fire anybody that revealed CIA agent identities."

--AND THEN--

BUSH said he would "fire anybody that broke the law..."

[academic punk]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:12 a.m. EDT

Bill Clinton Pardoned Nat'l. Security Leaker

No wonder 2008 presidential candidate Hillary Clinton has been silent as a churchmouse about Karl Rove while her Democratic colleagues call for his prosecution for leaking classified information about CIA employee Valerie Plame.

Turns out - in the only case in U.S. history of a person successfully prosecuted for leaking classified information to the press - Hillary's husband pardoned the guilty party.

On January 20, 2001, President Clinton pardoned Samuel Loring Morison, a civilian analyst with the Office of Naval Intelligence. In 1984, Morison had been convicted of providing classified satellite photos of an under-construction Soviet nuclear-powered aircraft carrier to Britain's Jane's Defence Weekly.

He received a two-year jail sentence.

In pardoning Morison, Clinton dismissed the advice of the CIA.

"We said we were obviously opposed - it was a vigorous 'Hell, no,'" one senior intelligence official told the Washington Post at the time. "We think ... giving pardons to people who are convicted of doing that sends the wrong signal to people who are currently entrusted with classified information."

Morison is the only person ever successfully prosecuted under the 1917 Espionage Act, the law invoked by Democrats who want to nail Rove after it became clear that he didn't violate the 1982 Intelligence Identities Protection Act.

But it's going to be difficult for Dems to feign national security outrage over Plame's outing when the husband of their party's presidential front-runner let an actual convicted leaker off the hook.

Last week, when Sen. John Kerry called for Mr. Rove to be fired, with Hillary standing by his side, she nodded silently. When reporters asked her what she thought of the alleged Rove outrage, she offered only, "I'm nodding."

No doubt while remembering her husband's pardon of Mr. Morison.

So, again, two wrongs make a right?

I'm not sitting here defending Clinton's wrongs (and I would like to read a non-partisan angle at that article, as well). why do you two only have "Yeah, but look what that other guy did" as a defense???

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Tuesday, July 26, 2005 10:12 a.m. EDT

Bill Clinton Pardoned Nat'l. Security Leaker
...

Thanks for the typical partisan "but CLINTON did this" bullshit...

And this has to do with the PLAME scandel how?

[DrMaddVibe]

Figure it out by yourself!

[academic punk]

Originally posted by DrMaddVibe
Figure it out by yourself!

Nick -

The above is code for "I have no fucking clue, but when faced with a tough situation, I like to sling mud".

[Warham]

It's a scandal that the evil Karl Rove started.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by academic punk
Nick -

The above is code for "I have no fucking clue, but when faced with a tough situation, I like to sling mud".

Kind of, it's more like, "you Democrats have gotten away with shit in the past..."

But it fails to reckon that the guy mentioned never broke protocol and potentially endangered a US secret agent, (Even PLAME's CIA classmates never even knew her real name, did you guys know that?)

It proves my point! "KARL ROVE is one of ours, so what he did was okay." Well fuck all of you cunts and the white Christian stallion you rode in on! He's a professional defamer, and he did it to the best Republican of them all: John McCAIN! Did we forget about "Thou shalt not lie?" Evil fuckers!

[Warham]

John McCain's the best Republican of them all? When did that press release come out?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
John McCain's the best Republican of them all? When did that press release come out?

Oh, I forgot! He doesn't make phoney, contradictory statements regarding God and religion.

Forgive me...

[Warham]

When did religion get into this conversation?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
When did religion get into this conversation?

Who's the finest Republican WAR?

[Warham]

I'm still wondering when religion entered this conversation. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
I'm still wondering when religion entered this conversation. Judaism, Christianity, Islam, etc.

Politics is inseperable to you WAR...


I'm still wondering as to who you think the finest Republican would be?

[Warham]

I can separate them just fine.

I was just wondering why they were brought up in this thread.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Warham
I can separate them just fine.

I was just wondering why they were brought up in this thread.

Fair enough question, here's the answer...

You've stated in the past that McCain would never get past the religious right in a Presidential Primary...Am I incorrect?