South Dakota Closer to Outlawing Abortion

[DLR'sCock]

There are two major things that will decress the number of unwanted preganancies.

Contraception and REAL sex education and being honest, open, and lovign with your kids so that they trust you.


The other is, well if you want to prevent the number of abortions, GO OUT AND ADOPT AS MANY KIDS AS YOU CAN.

Adoption and sex education are the only real viable answers.

[Cathedral]

Hey Ford, maybe you can edit this thread title to say, "South Dakota Bans Abortion?"

HAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

SCORE ONE FOR THE UNBORN BABIE'S, BABY!

God is great, God is Good, Amen and Goodnight.

[FORD]

God had nothing to do with this. In fact, from what I hear, the so called "pro-lifers" in this case used some very sleazy tactics. Jesus never had to decieve anyone to make His points.

And there's no point in changing the title until the governor signs the bill.

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Does anyone have any idea the ratio of White men in this country who support abortion, and the ratio of black men who do?

What about white men to white women? white men to black women? black men to white women?

Or just good old fashioned men to women...

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Fuck off.......

[4moreyears]

........trolls.

[FORD]

Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
Does anyone have any idea the ratio of White men in this country who support abortion, and the ratio of black men who do?

What about white men to white women? white men to black women? black men to white women?

Or just good old fashioned men to women...

Interesting questions.

Why don't you go research the answers? It would give you something better to do than being a troll.

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Originally posted by 4moreyears

Hey! Back off! I'm the only troll who gets to make fun of FORD around here, understand, bitch???!??

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Originally posted by FORD
Interesting questions.

Why don't you go research the answers? It would give you something better to do than being a troll.

Well, seeing as you know everything, I thought I'd just ask you.

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by FORD
God had nothing to do with this. In fact, from what I hear, the so called "pro-lifers" in this case used some very sleazy tactics. Jesus never had to decieve anyone to make His points.

And there's no point in changing the title until the governor signs the bill.

I'm just ribbin ya little man, though i am happy about this news and the governor already said he was inclined to sign it.

The thread title is fine, it's dated.

But i think i should remind you, God has everything to do with everything on this earth.
As for the deception, that was actually done back in '74 when the government said it was OK for women to kill their children.

By the way, Ford. if you didn't have a yard and you planted seeds in your neighbors yard with permission; how would you feel if they decided to claim them and destroyed them without your consent?...would you feel cheated?

I think i'm just lucky to have only been with one woman who thought so little of me or my feelings. It takes two, not one.

[vheddyrmv8]

Originally posted by BITEYOASS
I can't agree with the extremes on either side. I believe that abortion and the death penalty should only be used in extreme circumstances. Abortion should only be used in cases of rape, incest or a birth that could result in the death of the mother even if cesaerean section is an option, it definitely should not be used for women who sleep around all over the place and those who didn't bother with or had a mistake with Birth Control.
As for the Death penalty, it should be used for those who have done multiple murders, killing kids, treasonous offenses resulting in death and those sick fucks who like to play with or eat other people's body parts. But if it's the case of one scumbag killing another scumbag, someone catching they're significant other in bed with someone else, or a single murder for robbery purposes being a first time offense than that should only result in life imprisonment.

That's the best comment I've read on this thread. Lemme give you guys a kid's point of view. I'm not gonna get into what I have done...but in health class, these planned parenthood people came in and showed us these billions of contraception units. There's tons of them! And most of them anyone can buy at target or any place with a pharmacy. If I had known this before, my life would have been different.

You want to know why teens have sex and get pregnant? Parents. They are the cause of it all. I know it sounds childish but hear me out. Parents preach abstenance all of the time and scold you for being anywhere near a member of the opposite sex. Kids will do the opposite of what you tell them. Kids are curious...if you see it all the time on TV and your parents preach so much about it you wonder wow what is it like that it causes all of this controversy?

Let me tell you if parents were leniant and gave their kids birth control, condoms, ect, the rate of teen pregnancy would be cut in half I garuntee. I know it's hard for parents to imagine their kids having to do this stuff, but that's how life is. As a parent, you should be ready for it.

[scamper]

Originally posted by Nickdfresh
I was referring to the legislators...

oh, nevermind

[4moreyears]

Edit Boy strikes again. Strike a chord with your lack of female intimacy Ford buddy!!!

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by vheddyrmv8
That's the best comment I've read on this thread. Lemme give you guys a kid's point of view. I'm not gonna get into what I have done...but in health class, these planned parenthood people came in and showed us these billions of contraception units. There's tons of them! And most of them anyone can buy at target or any place with a pharmacy. If I had known this before, my life would have been different.

You want to know why teens have sex and get pregnant? Parents. They are the cause of it all. I know it sounds childish but hear me out. Parents preach abstenance all of the time and scold you for being anywhere near a member of the opposite sex. Kids will do the opposite of what you tell them. Kids are curious...if you see it all the time on TV and your parents preach so much about it you wonder wow what is it like that it causes all of this controversy?

Let me tell you if parents were leniant and gave their kids birth control, condoms, ect, the rate of teen pregnancy would be cut in half I garuntee. I know it's hard for parents to imagine their kids having to do this stuff, but that's how life is. As a parent, you should be ready for it.

Well said...

I think it's just stupid when I hear about people in this forum complaining about schools showing teens how to put a condom on a cucumber, then in the same breath, decry abortion...

[Cathedral]

Originally posted by vheddyrmv8
That's the best comment I've read on this thread. Lemme give you guys a kid's point of view. I'm not gonna get into what I have done...but in health class, these planned parenthood people came in and showed us these billions of contraception units. There's tons of them! And most of them anyone can buy at target or any place with a pharmacy. If I had known this before, my life would have been different.

You want to know why teens have sex and get pregnant? Parents. They are the cause of it all. I know it sounds childish but hear me out. Parents preach abstenance all of the time and scold you for being anywhere near a member of the opposite sex. Kids will do the opposite of what you tell them. Kids are curious...if you see it all the time on TV and your parents preach so much about it you wonder wow what is it like that it causes all of this controversy?

Let me tell you if parents were leniant and gave their kids birth control, condoms, ect, the rate of teen pregnancy would be cut in half I garuntee. I know it's hard for parents to imagine their kids having to do this stuff, but that's how life is. As a parent, you should be ready for it.

I agree with you on one point, it is the parents fault if their kid comes home pregnant.
The only kids that don't come home pregnant before they are married are the one's that were raised with some self respect.
The kids that can go to their parents about anything and everything without being judged.
The job of a parent isn't to just sit back and expect the kids to experiment with sex, drugs and alcohol, or be "lenient", as you suggest, that is the excuse a child will use to run around and be irresponsible.
No responsible parent is going to give them the tools to go running off into the world and dive right into things they are not emotionally ready for.

That is society talking, and in a socialist atmosphere you make perfect sense.
Pregnancy is not the only risk involved with pre-marital sex, we're talking about STD's, HIV, and all out AID'S, you know, things that can actually kill you.
Any parent that is "lenient" as you suggest, and in that regard, is a worthless parent who doesn't really give a rats ass about the lives or futures of their children.
Parents and schools who think of sexual contact in a social sense are not teaching the kids what they should be teaching them.
Like how sex is something special between two "LOVING" and "MARRIED" people, not something to do on the weekends with someone you "like" a whole lot. it's a lack of responsibility, period.
My kids haven't and won't go running about screaming they weren't educated and hopping from bed to bed, I took care of that by being open and honest with them when they asked the tough questions. and why do i do that?
Because it is MY responsibility not to fumble the issue for their sake.

I respect your opinion, but you're only addressing one issue, teen pregnancy, and that tells me you are missing the most important points based on the social mindset that has been programmed into you.

Kids are lost because the parents allow them to take that first step in the wrong direction, it isn't about NOT being educated on safe sex practices, that is the excuse of a foolish parent/child relationship.

Your parents apparently didn't spend much time on the subject with you because to them it was probably due to the common stigma most parents have that prevents them from doing so, and it's called embarrassment.

When my oldest daughter started dating I sat her boy down and i told him about the values and the understanding i had with my daughter. I also told him what i expect from him when he is with my daughter and the consequences of violating any of that.
I didn't stand in the way of them growing up, but i made my children look for something long lasting and meaningful, not just short term and i certainly didn't hand the boy a pack of condoms and say, "Be Careful!"....That's rediculous, but it does happen in todays liberal society and any boy who enters my childs life thinking like that is easy to spot, all you have to do is watch how he looks at your daughter when her back is turned to him.
You can literally see the saliva run down their chins, and i'm dead serious.

Schools aren't the one's who are to arm your children with the knowledge of how to be responsible, that's the job of the parent, but being "lenient" is not the way to do it.
If a kid steps off into the wrong direction they need to be corrected, they need to be educated (at home) by people who have experience in the area.
And i don't just mean saying, "Don't do this" and then walk away, I man sitting down with them and explaining all the good points and bad points of what a sexual relationship involves.

And another thing, the trust to be able to have these discussions begins when they are exposed to sex, which due to society and what they see on television is getting younger and younger every day.
with my oldest she asked me about sex when she was 12...my youngest began asking about it at 9.
The point is, a parent who ignores what they are taking in and fails to address will result in them trying to gain this mutual respect and trust when the "curiosity" as you put it has already set in, and 9 times out of 10 they'll end up giving their innocence to the wrong person.

So your right, the parent is at fault, just not in any way for the reasons you stated.
What you propose is what you get from parents who aren't interested in parenting enough to put the stigma's to rest and their childrens futures suffer because of it.

And another thing, those who aren't a parent don't have any right telling me anything about being one because they don't have a clue what they are talking about at all.
They would be better served keeping their mouths closed until they can speak from experience and not some socialistic viewpoint where anything and everything goes.
I did my job and i'm still doing it today and let me tell you, my kids know what is right and what is wrong and if they don't they have no problems coming to me for any reason.
And that is only because I didn't just turn them loose for their heads to be filled with moral value I don't respect.

Next, you'll be telling me that by sticking my nose into their business i am invading their privacy, right ?

Well, I'd agree with you because until they reach 18 years of age and move out on their own they are legally MY responsibility and they do NOTHING i am not aware of.
but again, My relationship with my daughters was never about keeping secrets and doing things behind my back, it was about mutual respect for one another.

"Leniency" is the tool of the foolish parent and that parent will lose control right around puberty if they don't sow the seeds of self respect when that "curiosity" you speak of begins to tug at them through their friends.

I lost my oldest in car a crash a few years ago, but before and since then i have seen all but one of her friends give birth before they graduated high school. the thing that makes me break down and weep is when the one who didn't get pregnant told me she was sad for the one's that became parents and that she followed Tabitha's lead when everyone else was bedding down...and she knew it was because of how open our relationship was...she told me it was because MY daughter gave more thought to her future than she did having sex with her boyfriend.
At her funeral this kid told me she wishes she had a Father like me, and it broke my heart, but filled me with pride that i had done my job right....because i really didn't know until that moment that i was successful.

My daughter had too much respect for me to risk ruining her life and destroying all possibility of becoming any of the many things i knew she could be in life and what she wanted to be.
I support my children with everything i have inside me. I never took my attention and focus off of their lives for any reason and i damn sure never used "leniency" in raising them, and i never will in the remaining 8 years i have left to raise my baby.

When she is 18 years old she can make her own choices, but i know they will be well thought out and executed choices because I took being a parent seriously.

Anything less results in catastrophy, and the blame falls flat in the lap of the parents.
There are a lot of posts in this thread by people who dont even have kids, and they are the same one's who are taking the liberalist's point of view on the issue of sex and abortion.
That's hardly the viewpoint any parent should be listening to on such matters, y'all need to just shut up.

To all the liberal thinkers on this subject i say this, "It is better to remain silent and be guessed a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt".