Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

[DEMON CUNT]

Don't forget that Clinton was acquitted by the Senate.

[matt19]

Originally posted by jhale667
That means so much coming from a blind neocon.

LMMFAO!!!! EXACTLY!!

[ODShowtime]

People like tonguenass just disgust me. Go drink some gasoline you fuckface.

Schultz, you're smart enough to know better.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
People like tonguenass just disgust me. Go drink some gasoline you fuckface.

Schultz, you're smart enough to know better.

OD, you're a little mean spirited today. What gives?

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by jhale667
That means so much coming from a blind neocon.

A neo-conservative is a "liberal who was mugged by reality" - Irving Kristol

You far left lunatics bandy about the term "neo-con" and don't even know what it means. It cracks me up! :D

[knuckleboner]

Originally posted by stringfelowhawk
There are truly some stupid fucking people that defend these criminals. You have no argument with who leaked Plame's identity. That has never been the reason he was convicted therefore it is not the reason he was granted clemency. He was convicted of, (say it with me) PERJURY! You know, lying under oath?

...Don't you people realize this was more than just a presidents "right"? Don't you understand by this action he has essentially shielded himself and Cheney from any investigation into what role they played in leak.

as one of the ones pointing out who made the leak, i think it IS vitally important in the debate.

libby was convicted of a crime. but a common crime that many, many, many people in court cases commit. it doesn't justify his actions. but it also, in and of itself, isn't much different than what goes on in court cases and depositions every day in every city.

and so, validly under article II of the constitution, bush commuted libby's sentence.

at this point, it doesn't really matter what libby knew, or whom he may have been protecting; it's irrelevant. the facts are he was convicted of perjury and obstruction of justice, received 30 months in jail and a $250,000 fine, and had the jail time commuted.

politcally, did bush do anything wrong? yes, i definitely think so. the moderates and independents won't be clammoring for impeachment over this, but it is likely to reinforce their already worsening opinion of republicans in general. and while that won't hurt bush in 2008, it certainly won't help the average republican candidate.

legallly did bush do anything wrong? and this is important: no; not with the commuting. how about otherwise? doesn't matter in the discussion here. whether or not bush's OTHER actions have been illegal is as relevant to the commuting of libby's sentence as are comparisons to clinton.

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
A neo-conservative is a "liberal who was mugged by reality" - Irving Kristol

You far left lunatics bandy about the term "neo-con" and don't even know what it means. It cracks me up!

The real funny here is watching you pretend that you understand any of these discussions.

"If a conservative is a liberal who's been mugged, a liberal is a conservative who's been arrested."

[Steve Savicki]

Resigning at this point could be just as good as impeachment... both would be out of office early!

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
OD, you're a little mean spirited today. What gives?

Yeah, I know. It just pisses me off that people still act the way you did 2 years ago. I almost included you in this rant, but I decided not to.

Where have you been? Following the Rush tour?

[FORD]

Originally posted by ODShowtime


Where have you been? Following the Rush tour?

You mean Limbaugh, or the guys from Toronto?

[matt19]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
A neo-conservative is a "liberal who was mugged by reality" - Irving Kristol

You far left lunatics bandy about the term "neo-con" and don't even know what it means. It cracks me up! :D

Kinda like you blindly run around calling everyone a liberal?

[Baby's On Fire]

Originally posted by stringfelowhawk
I don't normally respond when I come across bickering in a thread no matter which side I silently agree with but this one just pisses me off because of the obvious lack of intelligent debating skills on behalf of this criminal administration. I'm gonna state my 2 pennies and move on so attacking me after the fact will not warrant another response. I just feel I need to set the record straight on a few things while handing you your ass. This whole "but Clinton" argument is about to fucking backfire so this is your only warning to duck and cover. I'm sure the same people who condone this administration are the same people who will attack me because of my "debating skills" comment above by claiming my opinion isn't so intelligent since I sprinkle a little profanity throughout and may mispell a word or miss a comma. So I'll say in advance, "way to change the subject now move on to the attempt to continue to apologize for these assholes without mentioning Bubba."

There are truly some stupid fucking people that defend these criminals. You have no argument with who leaked Plame's identity. That has never been the reason he was convicted therefore it is not the reason he was granted clemency. He was convicted of, (say it with me) PERJURY! You know, lying under oath? That used to be a crime before this theo-neo-fratboy criminal empire moved to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Well, actually it still is a crime for everyone that isn't a republican with very close ties to the throne. Don't you people realize this was more than just a presidents "right"? Don't you understand by this action he has essentially shielded himself and Cheney from any investigation into what role they played in leak. They have obstructed justice and have made sure that Libby can not testify about their role. After all the laws they have broken, do you still believe them to be honest? Scandal after scandal it has become obvious they do not have the best interests of the country in mind. They have yet to be held accountable for any of their actions and continue to ignore the laws of the land and the very document that our government was founded on. Those very laws and that document is the reason our country has prosperred and became what it was until the 2000 election.
I am so fucking disgusted with the whole Clinton invocation its literally giving me a migraine. You act as if anything and in fact everything he did while in office compares equally, yet it does not. There are scales with which to measure the differences but the most important one is the body count. If you want to argue Bush is justified because Clinton did something too then your entire point of view is weightless. I don't care much for him and "Black Hawk Down" is the biggest reason. Not because of the reason we were involved. His intentions were honorable and I have no qualm with the operation planning or execution. I lost a lot of respect for him because those Rangers and Green Berets lost their lives for the truly noble purpose of helping the people of Somalia get food and supplies yet pulled us out after that episode. You will no doubt try and twist that statement into hypocricy because of what's happening in Iraq now but you would be a fool nonetheless. We did not invade Somalia for its abundance of oil and revenge on its dictator. We in fact did not invade Somalia at all. Clinton did not start a war for profit under the false pretense of a threat to our national security by a rogue nation. He did not manipulate intel in order to build support for the invasion he knowingly and willingly knew was NOT connected to September 11th. That didn't stop him from claiming otherwise though. Even though it has now unanimously been proven to be false yet the Vice President still echoes that falsehood as fact. A war profiteer whose previous employer is the biggest corporation operating in Iraq after being given "no bid" contracts for work they have not done, for work they have overcharged, work they have performed so poorly that most has to be re-done all the while no matter how many times they are caught red handed cheating us taxpayers and the government they continue to get those same contracts. Anyone with the most basic of math skills can testify to the benefits of fucking up and paying a $50,000 fine while balancing it against a contract worth $7 billion. Even Spock would agree with that logic.
So, since you people like to invoke Clinton every time Bush and Cheney are exposed as a faux-patriots and criminals I'll take this second to remind you that after everything thing he did, was accused of, admitted to, and convicted of in the end Clinton was Impeached.
Therefore, he was held accountable for his actions which means every time you "but-Clinton" all you do is sink your own point of view and enforce ours because he may have been impeached for getting a blowjob and convicted of perjury but he was still held accountable. You can not say that about your benefactors. That is an enormous difference when you take into account the ever more serious and treasonous crimes this administration has committed.

Now post your addresses so I can overnight your ass back to you.

Arizona high school teacher Bill Greenberg -- visiting the White House with his students -- said: "I'm busy teaching my students all about the Constitution (and) wondering if we'll ever get anybody here who actually reads it."

ONE TRILLION motherfucking stars for you. Best post on this website in history. Even better than Sesh's.

[jhale667]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
A neo-conservative is a "liberal who was mugged by reality" - Irving Kristol

You far left lunatics bandy about the term "neo-con" and don't even know what it means. It cracks me up! :D

I'm a far left lunatic now? What does that make you, a far right retard? :D

[jhale667]

And oh yeah...anyone that still tries to defend W and Co. or try the "But Clinton" shit after Stringfellow's post should be shot. :D Just sayin'.

[matt19]

Originally posted by jhale667
I'm a far left lunatic now? What does that make you, a far right retard? :D

How far right do you have to be a retard? I thought you only had to be right to be a retard.