Olbermann: Bush, Cheney should resign

[Nickdfresh]

It's funny now that even that the spokesmen, Tony "Squealor" Snow and his little minion, I like to call him Josef Goebbels, are now whipping out the pathetic "but but but but CLINTON!!!!" card...

It's almost hysterical as to what a law-mocking clusterfuck this frAudministration has become...

[ODShowtime]

Good job cocksmokers. Now the White House itself is trying the "but clinton" routine. We've finally brought the national political debate down to warham and BBB's level. Congrats.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070706/ap_on_go_pr_wh/cia_leak_libby&printer=1;_ylt=As2Ms1Rzk9xOYkcW11ihCVsGw_IE

White House criticizes Clintons on Libby

By TERENCE HUNT, AP White House CorrespondentFri Jul 6, 12:38 AM ET

The White House on Thursday made fun of former President Clinton and his wife, Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, for criticizing President Bush's decision to erase the prison sentence of former aide I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby.

"I don't know what Arkansan is for chutzpah, but this is a gigantic case of it," presidential spokesman Tony Snow said.

In his commutation decision, Bush left a $250,000 fine. Libby paid the fine on Thursday.

Libby's friends and supporters have raised more than $5 million to cover legal fees and were continuing to raise money but Libby paid the fine himself, according to someone close to the fund who spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the account are private. The cashiers check filed with the court was issued in Libby's name.

Rep. John Conyers, D-Mich., chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, has scheduled hearings Wednesday on Bush's commutation of Libby's 2 1/2-year sentence.

"Well, fine, knock himself out," Snow said of Conyers. "I mean, perfectly happy. And while he's at it, why doesn't he look at January 20th, 2001?"

In the closing hours of his presidency, Clinton pardoned 140 people, including fugitive financier Marc Rich.

Conyers said the hearings would include pardons made by Clinton, former President Bush and possibly other past presidents. "We won't need to review each and every one of them, but the whole idea is to examine to what use this part of our criminal law is being put and whether it's being used adequately or are their other changes necessary," Conyers told Fox News Radio.

President Clinton tried to draw a distinction between the pardons he granted and Bush's decision to commute Libby's 30-month sentence in the CIA leak case.

"I think there are guidelines for what happens when somebody is convicted," Clinton told a radio interviewer Tuesday. "You've got to understand, this is consistent with their philosophy; they believe that they should be able to do what they want to do, and that the law is a minor obstacle."

Hillary Clinton, seeking the Democratic presidential nomination, said the Libby decision "was clearly an effort to protect the White House. ... There isn't any doubt now, what we know is that Libby was carrying out the implicit or explicit wishes of the vice president, or maybe the president as well, in the further effort to stifle dissent."

Former Vice President Al Gore said he found the Bush decision "disappointing" and said he did not think it was comparable to Clinton's pardons.

"It's different because in this case the person involved is charged with activities that involved knowledge of what his superiors in the White House did," Gore said on NBC's "Today" show Thursday.

In a later interview, Gore criticized Libby's former boss, Vice President Dick Cheney. "I think that Vice President Cheney has done a lot of harm to our country. I really do. He was the strongest advocate of scrapping the U.S. participation in the efforts to solve the climate crisis," Gore said on CNN's "Larry King Live."

Scott Stanzel, a White House deputy press secretary, said that, "When you think about the previous administration and the 11th-hour, fire-sale pardons ... it's really startling that they have the gall to criticize what we believe is a very considered, a very deliberate approach to a very unique case."

Snow also tried to clear up confusion about Libby's probation. While commuting Libby's sentence in terms of prison time, Bush left in place his two years of supervised release. But supervised release — a form of probation — is only available to people who have served prison time. Without prison, it's unclear what happens next.

Snow said the White House view was this: "You treat it as if he has already served the 30 months, and probation kicks in. Obviously, the sentencing judge will figure out precisely how that works."

U.S. District Judge Reggie B. Walton, earlier this week, said the law "does not appear to contemplate a situation in which a defendant may be placed under supervised release without first completing a term of incarceration."

He gave Libby's attorneys and Special Prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald until Monday to respond.

Isn't obstruction of justice just a fuckin laugh riot? How about unnecessary war for profit? A real side-splitter! :D

[FORD]

The pukes can't use the Marc Rich pardon as a defense because Marc Rich's lawyer was.....



......wait for it.......





....SCOOTER FUCKING LIBBY!

[Nickdfresh]

Get out!:D

Holy shit!

[studly hungwell]

Originally posted by stringfelowhawk
I don't normally respond when I come across bickering in a thread no matter which side I silently agree with but this one just pisses me off because of the obvious lack of intelligent debating skills on behalf of this criminal administration. I'm gonna state my 2 pennies and move on so attacking me after the fact will not warrant another response. I just feel I need to set the record straight on a few things while handing you your ass. This whole "but Clinton" argument is about to fucking backfire so this is your only warning to duck and cover. I'm sure the same people who condone this administration are the same people who will attack me because of my "debating skills" comment above by claiming my opinion isn't so intelligent since I sprinkle a little profanity throughout and may mispell a word or miss a comma. So I'll say in advance, "way to change the subject now move on to the attempt to continue to apologize for these assholes without mentioning Bubba."

There are truly some stupid fucking people that defend these criminals. You have no argument with who leaked Plame's identity. That has never been the reason he was convicted therefore it is not the reason he was granted clemency. He was convicted of, (say it with me) PERJURY! You know, lying under oath? That used to be a crime before this theo-neo-fratboy criminal empire moved to 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. Well, actually it still is a crime for everyone that isn't a republican with very close ties to the throne. Don't you people realize this was more than just a presidents "right"? Don't you understand by this action he has essentially shielded himself and Cheney from any investigation into what role they played in leak. They have obstructed justice and have made sure that Libby can not testify about their role. After all the laws they have broken, do you still believe them to be honest? Scandal after scandal it has become obvious they do not have the best interests of the country in mind. They have yet to be held accountable for any of their actions and continue to ignore the laws of the land and the very document that our government was founded on. Those very laws and that document is the reason our country has prosperred and became what it was until the 2000 election.
I am so fucking disgusted with the whole Clinton invocation its literally giving me a migraine. You act as if anything and in fact everything he did while in office compares equally, yet it does not. There are scales with which to measure the differences but the most important one is the body count. If you want to argue Bush is justified because Clinton did something too then your entire point of view is weightless. I don't care much for him and "Black Hawk Down" is the biggest reason. Not because of the reason we were involved. His intentions were honorable and I have no qualm with the operation planning or execution. I lost a lot of respect for him because those Rangers and Green Berets lost their lives for the truly noble purpose of helping the people of Somalia get food and supplies yet pulled us out after that episode. You will no doubt try and twist that statement into hypocricy because of what's happening in Iraq now but you would be a fool nonetheless. We did not invade Somalia for its abundance of oil and revenge on its dictator. We in fact did not invade Somalia at all. Clinton did not start a war for profit under the false pretense of a threat to our national security by a rogue nation. He did not manipulate intel in order to build support for the invasion he knowingly and willingly knew was NOT connected to September 11th. That didn't stop him from claiming otherwise though. Even though it has now unanimously been proven to be false yet the Vice President still echoes that falsehood as fact. A war profiteer whose previous employer is the biggest corporation operating in Iraq after being given "no bid" contracts for work they have not done, for work they have overcharged, work they have performed so poorly that most has to be re-done all the while no matter how many times they are caught red handed cheating us taxpayers and the government they continue to get those same contracts. Anyone with the most basic of math skills can testify to the benefits of fucking up and paying a $50,000 fine while balancing it against a contract worth $7 billion. Even Spock would agree with that logic.
So, since you people like to invoke Clinton every time Bush and Cheney are exposed as a faux-patriots and criminals I'll take this second to remind you that after everything thing he did, was accused of, admitted to, and convicted of in the end Clinton was Impeached.
Therefore, he was held accountable for his actions which means every time you "but-Clinton" all you do is sink your own point of view and enforce ours because he may have been impeached for getting a blowjob and convicted of perjury but he was still held accountable. You can not say that about your benefactors. That is an enormous difference when you take into account the ever more serious and treasonous crimes this administration has committed.

Now post your addresses so I can overnight your ass back to you.

Arizona high school teacher Bill Greenberg -- visiting the White House with his students -- said: "I'm busy teaching my students all about the Constitution (and) wondering if we'll ever get anybody here who actually reads it."

It tickles me when a "life virgin" gets her cherry popped. There is how its written and how it is.....how it should be and how it is....see shit for how it is. Ideas of fairness should be abandoned at your high school graduation ceremony. Power corrupts....Dem or Pub...whether they get caught or not, Men who hold power are evil. Any takers?

[Baby's On Fire]

Originally posted by FORD
The pukes can't use the Marc Rich pardon as a defense because Marc Rich's lawyer was.....



......wait for it.......





....SCOOTER FUCKING LIBBY!

Please tell me you're joking. Please.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by FORD
SCOOTER FUCKING LIBBY!

Yeah, and wasn't libby the one who wrote the novel with all the pedophilia/beastiality? Or was that someone else?

[Baby's On Fire]

Originally posted by ODShowtime
Yeah, and wasn't libby the one who wrote the novel with all the pedophilia/beastiality? Or was that someone else?

Was that not Lynne Cheney? Seriously. I think it was.

[ODShowtime]

yeah it was him:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Apprentice_%28book%29

The Apprentice (book)
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The Apprentice
Author Lewis Libby
Country United States
Language English
Genre(s) Thriller
Publisher Graywolf Press; St. Martin's Thomas Dunne Books; St. Martin's Griffin
Publication date August 1996 (Graywolf); rpt. February 2002 (Thomas Dunne Books); December 2005 (Griffin)
Media type Print (Hardback; Trade paperback; Paperback)
Pages 239 pp. and 256 pp. [various]
ISBN ISBN 1555972454 (10) and ISBN 978-1555972455 (13); ISBN 0312284535 (10) and ISBN 978-0312284534 (13)

The Apprentice is a novel by Lewis Libby, former Chief of Staff to U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, first published in hardback in 1996, reprinted in trade paperback in 2002, and reissued in mass market paperback in 2005 after Libby's indictment in the CIA leak grand jury investigation.[1] It is set in northern Japan in winter 1903, and centers on a group of travelers stranded at a remote inn due to a smallpox epidemic. It has been generally described as "a thriller ... that includes references to bestiality, pedophilia and rape."[2] It is the first and only novel that Libby has written.

Reception: Sources of criticism and praise

Although the sexual passages and references make up only a few pages of the novel, one passage in particular — combining bestiality, pedophilia, prostitution, and biastophilia in just three sentences — has received wide attention:
“

At age ten the madam put the child in a cage with a bear trained to couple with young girls so the girls would be frigid and not fall in love with their patrons. They fed her through the bars and aroused the bear with a stick when it seemed to lose interest. Groups of men paid to watch. (81)[9][3]

Another sentence in the book introduces necrophilia, as a hunter copulates with a freshly-killed deer: "The man called out to the others that the deer was still warm. He asked if they should fuck the deer" (127).

shit's fucked up

[DEMON CUNT]

Originally posted by Baby's On Fire
Please tell me you're joking. Please.

Nope. It gets better.

CONTRA COSTA TIMES 07/04/2007:

Before entering government, Libby was a private attorney who represented billionaire international commodities trader Marc Rich.

Rich was indicted in 1983 by then-U.S. Attorney Rudy Giuliani on charges of tax evasion and illegal dealing with Iran during the American hostage crisis.

Rich fled to Switzerland. He also occupied a spot on the FBI's Most Wanted List for many years.

Giuliani, former mayor of New York, is now a leading Republican presidential candidate. He endorsed Bush's decision to spare Libby jail time even though he had tried to put Libby's client behind bars.

Link

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Originally posted by Baby's On Fire
Was that not Lynne Cheney? Seriously. I think it was.

She wrote about a lesbian-ish relationship...

[Baby's On Fire]

That's even better. As long as the chicks were hot. But of course with my luck they'd look like her daughter. A Bull-Dyke.

[WACF]

Originally posted by FORD
The pukes can't use the Marc Rich pardon as a defense because Marc Rich's lawyer was.....



......wait for it.......





....SCOOTER FUCKING LIBBY!

Amazing....

[stringfelowhawk]

It is a rare occasion when someone can push one of my buttons that causes me to respond. When I do respond I don't give a shit about being politically correct.
I didn't read my post before submitting it. Now that I've read it and realized how confrontational it is I fully expected to be tiptoeing through a mine field of verbal attacks.
I'm all for a healthy debate but when the only response of the opposing point of view comes from the assembly line of Republican talking points it becomes clear those that read that script care less about the real issues and more about defending their party. I guess that should suprise me but then this administration has put party above country from the start so maybe I should have seen that coming.

When I first heard Libby was Rich's lawyer I honestly thought it was just another awful Hollywood screenplay. I was floored with it turned out to be true. It would seem this administrations hypocricy truly has no bounds.

[EAT MY ASSHOLE]

Originally posted by FORD
The pukes can't use the Marc Rich pardon as a defense because Marc Rich's lawyer was.....



......wait for it.......





....SCOOTER FUCKING LIBBY!

Yes they can. Clinton still inked the pardon, regardless of who the lawyer for the defence was. And all that really indicates - Clinton giving the time of day to Libby and going with his requests - to me is what a li'l fraternity party Washington really is.

As for the "But Clinton" bit even from the White House now, isn't it obvious what that's about? Chipping away at hillary's campaign before she's even the party nominee...much like the "go eat your sushi and drive your Volvo" anti-Dean ads back in '04.