$145 Billion? YOU FUCKING REPUBLICANS

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Blackflag


Tell us more about how taxes should be raised to help the economy.

Nice strawman there.

Tell us how issuing checks putting us another $145 Billion into debt "helps" the economy, mensa.

Truth is, most will pay DEBT with those checks. Not buy at Wal-Mart.

But enlighten us.

What will YOU do with your $250?

Not a crack binge, I hope.

[Blackflag]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
And when someone refuses to put forth any of their own ideas, while simply mocking other's, it means they know even less.

But Lounge... isn't that precisely what you did in your original post?

Then when I do it to you, you cry? Funny.

[Blackflag]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
You claim to be this economic expert, yet never have anything to offer of your own.

Don't get me wrong...I'm no economics expert. Not at all. That's not what I do for a living.

But, holy shit, a kid in high school knows that raising taxes is the worst thing you could do if you want to help the economy. No offense, but what the fuck?

In terms of my own ideas - which have nothing to do with our conversation - there are only a finite number of things the government can do to quickly stimulate the economy... decrease interest rates, increase money supply, decrease taxes, lend more money to banks, spend money on 'government projects'... They've already done most of those, and interest rates are approachng zero. Time to lower taxes (same as giving a rebate).

What else is there? Decrease outsourcing. Refuse to do business with Dubai companies. Yeah, whatever. Maybe in 10 years that will do something, if it were even possible.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Blackflag
But, holy shit, a kid in high school knows that raising taxes is the worst thing you could do if you want to help the economy. No offense, but what the fuck?

How is opposing "rebate" checks *chuckle, chuckle* "raising" taxes.

I'm also for lifting the cap on the SS tax past $90K

I'm also for ending the big oil kickbacks and subsidies.


I never knew you were such a Reopublican .


Yet I see you STILL can't offer any of your own suggestions...

Maybve by the time we hit page 2

[LoungeMachine]

LMAO

Good thing you went back and editted in your "own ideas" finally.



Was that too much to ask, really?

[LoungeMachine]

LMAO

Good thing you went back and edited in your "own ideas" finally.



Was that too much to ask, really?

[Blackflag]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine

Tell us how issuing checks putting us another $145 Billion into debt "helps" the economy, mensa.

Truth is, most will pay DEBT with those checks. Not buy at Wal-Mart.

But enlighten us.

What will YOU do with your $250?

Not a crack binge, I hope.

I believe the term is 'velocity of money,' you can probably find an explanation on the internet somewhere if you're too lazy to get your ass down to the library.

Yeah, they'll pay debt. Because Americans are so dilligent about keeping their debt low.

More likely, they'll go buy a big screen tv or a shiny red pickup.

But even if they pay off debt, is that bad? Where does that money go once they pay it?

For me, I'd probably buy stock, which provides money for business activity. Or buy some crack.

But it's win-win when the government gives up some of the money it took out of the economy. Where do you think it will go otherwise? Iraq? Yeah, that will help the US economy.

I answered your questions. Time for you to answer some without saying 'you're an idiot.'

[Blackflag]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
LMAO

Good thing you went back and editted in your "own ideas" finally.



Was that too much to ask, really?

I didn't. This fucking site is stuttering.

[LoungeMachine]

Okay, you want to "rebate" $150 Billion...

We're in deficit, so can you name the offsets that won't hurt the same people you think these "rebates" are going to help?

How about not spending more on defense [read: Boogeyman] than the rest of the world?

Fact of the matter is, we dont HAVE $150 Billion to "rebate", do we?

No.


So let's talk about where that money is REALLY coming from.

We're borrowing from our grandkids to "spur" the economy?

Cue the highschool kid now.


This is almost comical.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Blackflag
I didn't. This fucking site is stuttering.

I'll give you that.

And we're working on it as we speak.

But beware, you aint gonna like what some of the moves are behind the scenes.

I suggest www.pornotube.com from now on...

[Blackflag]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine


How is opposing "rebate" checks *chuckle, chuckle* "raising" taxes.

I'm also for lifting the cap on the SS tax past $90K

I'm not a republican at all. I'm for a strong U.S. economy and a weak U.S. government. Low taxes make that happen.

Rebate checks are just lowering taxes in advance of next year's return. If you oppose the rebate, you favor keeping taxes high. You also said, "Repeal Bush's tax cuts...." That's raising taxes.

Further, increasing the SS fund would not help the economy in the short term. In fact, it's a tax increase. Did we learn yet if that's good for the economny?

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Blackflag


What else is there? Decrease outsourcing. Refuse to do business with Dubai companies. Yeah, whatever. Maybe in 10 years that will do something, if it were even possible.

I agree with you. The horse has left the barn on most of my pet peeves of this "administration"

Too little, too late.

But is floating more debt really the answer now?

I'm asking in all sincerity.

[Blackflag]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Okay, you want to "rebate" $150 Billion...

We're in deficit, so can you name the offsets that won't hurt the same people you think these "rebates" are going to help?

How about not spending more on defense [read: Boogeyman] than the rest of the world?

Fact of the matter is, we dont HAVE $150 Billion to "rebate", do we?

No.


So let's talk about where that money is REALLY coming from.

We're borrowing from our grandkids to "spur" the economy?

Cue the highschool kid now.


This is almost comical.

Now you're using your head. You're right. The government is borrowing money to spur the economy.

It's a catch-22, isn't it? Just keep your fingers crossed that the benefit to the economy far outweighs the amount borrowed in the long term.

But that's neither here nor there. The question is: what's the option? If not this move, then what do you to stimulate the economy short term? No good choices.

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by Blackflag


Further, increasing the SS fund would not help the economy in the short term. In fact, it's a tax increase. Did we learn yet if that's good for the economny?

I know that.

It was off-topic.

Just citing further examples of my commie-laden left-wing agenda.

[Blackflag]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
I'll give you that.

And we're working on it as we speak.

But beware, you aint gonna like what some of the moves are behind the scenes.

I suggest www.pornotube.com from now on...

JHale will not be pleased.