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President Obama's Nowruz message to Iranian people
Andy Taylor dick-socked when Lounge Machine threw him peanuts.
"I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. Seuss
How the fuck would you know? You don't have the attention span nor depth to actually read an article...
I mentioned Iraq. Illegal war, except in the minds of Bush/some Obama fans, huge numbers of deaths thanks to the US alone.
It's not actually "illegal." And most of the victims have been killed by their fellow Iraqis in the civil war waged under the US military's collective nose...
Further down.
Like your IQ...
Very little answers because it's bullshit and imaginary for people like you who can't rid themselves of the matrix they live in.
little.
Most countries in the world can be destabilised with the help of forces on the outside. If the US descends into poverty I don't believe it will be an exception. I can imagine blacks, Mexicans and ultra-patriots facing each other off. I know of a numbnut in Texas who's preparing for a Russian/Chinese invasion in the near future, he's practising with guns and there are others who share his views on this invasion and are in preparation.
LOL I have no fucking idea what you are babbling about here...
But that makes at least two of us...
What rubbish. He's a real investigative journalist, there's no place he hasn't been and his films have only recently become well known, so he's not a video person like Moore. Look at the awards he's got for decades. What's the American equivalent of him or people like Robert Fisk? Freedman?
I haven't seen his work. But the criticism is that he's not really searching for the greater truth, but is building a procecutorial case against the United States. And like any lawyer, he won't let actual facts nor balance stop his choler...
I don't know his US equivalent. Actually I do. It's Fox News!
Not for nothing is it called the Great Satan.
Good job adopting the simpleton arguments of a collective of superstitious phony asshole power-mongers...
You start shit, destablise the region, and when the fighting erupts because of certain troublesome elements, you say 'they did it. They hated each other anyway.' This is new to me and it's apparently new to you as well because there's quite a few people who make a case for Milosevic not being the tyrant he's made out to be. I don't know about him apart from a little in the papers way back but I wouldn't be surprised if he wasn't framed by the US/NATO being the war mongers they are. The US/UK started bombing without it being sanctioned by the UN and the security council had no authority to create a tribunal. Sticking with the near 3000 figure until we see another source or even say 10,000, there was no genocide and therefore no grounds for the invasion. The mass graves were a hoax too. You actually used an article from 1999 back there.
LMFAO!! By all means. Read a book on Milosevic, and not the self-serving pre-ordained shit you so love to wallow in...
He's a fascist, nationalist cunt if there ever was one....
Then please explain why his OWN people fucking deep-sixed him....
And the numbers are tricky, but at least close to 10,000 died (on all sides).
But there WAS ethnic cleansing. And there WAS genocide conducted in Bosnia, and therefore a reason to believe that Serb paramilitaries and the Army might conduct such activities. The assumption of which was a fair one...
So would you for quoting PBS.
You "quoted" them too, idiot. Remember?
...
Face it, democracy was implied in the Balkan, it's what your talking heads bring up all the time, it's the number one buzzword out of any American leader's mouth and it sends libs into spasms of joys too.
"Democracy" was chosen by the majority or residents in Bosnia! Who the fuck are you, or Milosevic, to tell them how to live?
Oh?
Yeah!
...
Oh so now you say there was no "real" Balkan Federation. India could be a similar bastardization since Kashmir, the north eastern states, and the south are about complete different ethnicities yet they're all Indian.
I said the Balkans were "bastardized" into a single nation in a futile effort to prevent them from starting another Euro War after WWI....
Use fucking Google for that, junior. It ain't that tough...
WTF does that have to do with India? You tell me...
Those links were meant to illustrate other points. We only got to Milosevic later and until then I hadn't seen anyone try to say that he might not be guilty. That article sounds exactly right wing. They tried to demonise Galloway in a similar way to make out like he had dealings with Saddam just because he met him. I don't know Clark's motivations in representing Saddam but like as I said if Milosevic is not guilty of his crimes (I might look further into this) then Clark is not at fault. From what I've read of him he sounds like a good man and much more morally upright than most. At the least Milosevic's record does not tally with that of the mass murderers Blair & Bush... Blair being the asshole that dares to call others war mongers. This is steaming Western hyprocrisy at it's finest. The Balkan war is like Hitler having both the military and the media on his side, it's a fascist dream and the idiots sit there and swallow it.
Are you comparing Galloway to Slobodan Milosevic or Clark? Galloway was a Scottish MP that wasn't that great as an MP but was fucking brilliant in front of Congress. The problem here, dope, is that Galloway never had the pretension of being a "journalist," and he had credibility because he condemned EVERYBODY!!! Not just the "great Satan." That's why he was able to single handedly own the US Senate, because he had cred and hated Saddam early on and blamed him as much for the suffering of the Iraqi people as he did the US and the UN...
Clark is a fucking revisionist tool that actually defended war criminals against a suit by Bosnian rape victims. Here's a fucking clue for you. His motivation was MONEY!! Serb money to present their case. He's a corrupt war profiteer that is a scum fuck lawyer and author that leaves out the vast chronicalling of Serbian paramilitary war crimes committed in the Balkans...
He's "Americas answer" to David Irving...
Feel free to Google Irving. He's your soulmate...
You're repeating the mass grave/holocaust myth despite it being bullshit.
Oh, do tell...
So, were Jews murdered or not?
More like you descending further down into cluelessness.
I know you didn't use those very words, but that's what you meant, stop being a pedantic asshole.
Well I have to dumb down my arguments for you, since your an illiterate and pretty obviously a gullible ignoramus devoid of basic critical thinking skills and complete bereft of the faculty to detect nuance...I'll decide what I "meant" to say, you incompetent fraud troll...
Suck my ass my little pampered, privileged, and enabled top of the caste system. You're the "Neo-imperialist, you fuckwit!!! The fact that you escaped India shows that you're at the top 1% of wealth there, and you and your family have built that wealth on the backs of your own, "hypocrite."
How the fuck would you know? You don't have the attention span nor depth to actually read an article...
Insults, because you're a useless, whiny baby.
It's not actually "illegal." And most of the victims have been killed by their fellow Iraqis in the civil war waged under the US military's collective nose...
Bullshit.
LOL I have no fucking idea
I haven't seen his work. But the criticism is that he's not really searching for the greater truth, but is building a procecutorial case against the United States. And like any lawyer, he won't let actual facts nor balance stop his choler...
I don't know his US equivalent. Actually I do. It's Fox News!
It's not like I didn't know you were a retard.
Good job adopting the simpleton arguments of a collective of superstitious phony asshole power-mongers...
LMFAO!! By all means. Read a book on Milosevic, and not the self-serving pre-ordained shit you so love to wallow in...
He's a fascist, nationalist cunt if there ever was one....
Then please explain why his OWN people fucking deep-sixed him....
And the numbers are tricky, but at least close to 10,000 died (on all sides).
But there WAS ethnic cleansing. And there WAS genocide conducted in Bosnia, and therefore a reason to believe that Serb paramilitaries and the Army might conduct such activities. The assumption of which was a fair one...
Idiot, the stuff that I have read is in favour of the US/Nato. What I intend to read is the other side, which you would too if you had half the intelligence or education you claim to have, simpleton.
Screw assumptions, you don't start a war based on them.
You "quoted" them too, idiot. Remember?
I quoted the wiki article.
"Democracy" was chosen by the majority or residents in Bosnia! Who the fuck are you, or Milosevic, to tell them how to live?
The height of ridiculousness, who the fuck are YOU (The US) to bomb their country, asshole!
Yeah!
Yeah, you're a supreme moron.
I said the Balkans were "bastardized" into a single nation in a futile effort to prevent them from starting another Euro War after WWI....
Use fucking Google for that, junior. It ain't that tough...
WTF does that have to do with India? You tell me...
Then the EU is too. India's formation was different but by your logic it could be too and it sent it's armies to some of the states.
Clark is a fucking revisionist tool that actually defended war criminals against a suit by Bosnian rape victims. Here's a fucking clue for you. His motivation was MONEY!! Serb money to present their case. He's a corrupt war profiteer that is a scum fuck lawyer and author that leaves out the vast chronicalling of Serbian paramilitary war crimes committed in the Balkans...
Thanks, I'll take my source from something other than your favourite right wing ones.
Oh, do tell...
So, were Jews murdered or not?
We're not talking about Jews. Feel free to assume whatever you want now about my opinion of the holocaust since I'm not interested in your pointless tangents.
Well I have to dumb down my arguments for you, since your an illiterate and pretty obviously a gullible ignoramus devoid of basic critical thinking skills and complete bereft of the faculty to detect nuance...I'll decide what I "meant" to say, you incompetent fraud troll...
The words of a sad loser. Fuck you and your "nuance", you're a confused fool.
since your an illiterate
That should be "you're", you illiterate bufoon.
I could have given you a much harder time, sending you running to justify your senseless "arguments" but it would be a waste of time since you're too thick to see how simple minded you are.
Suck my ass my little pampered, privileged, and enabled top of the caste system. You're the "Neo-imperialist, you fuckwit!!! The fact that you escaped India shows that you're at the top 1% of wealth there, and you and your family have built that wealth on the backs of your own, "hypocrite."
You're a cocklicking ignorant American who knows nothing about the world outside you. And I did not "escape" India nor do I belong to some privileged class, you dumb fuck. You've only proved that you're capable of stupid horse shit arguments, you believe exactly what you want to. What the fuck do you know about how I built my wealth, I didn't grow up here you retarded piece of shit.
Good job adopting the simpleton arguments of a collective of superstitious phony asshole power-mongers...
Am I your fucking comedy writer now, dipshit?
Idiot, the stuff that I have read is in favour of the US/Nato. What I intend to read is the other side, which you would too if you had half the intelligence or education you claim to have, simpleton.
Oh, oaky. So half the stuff presented evidence that Milosevic was a mass-murdering fuckstump. And you chose to disregard this to assume that it was NATO, an organization that generally doesn't start wars, that was all wrong?
Screw assumptions, you don't start a war based on them.
Um, they didn't "start" the war on assumptions. They started the War as the Serbs cracked down and began ejecting the population to Albania...
I quoted the wiki article.
Then PBS and Wiki had the same info...
The height of ridiculousness, who the fuck are YOU (The US) to bomb their country, asshole!
It was fun, and prevented a lot of deaths. I mean, if the Serbs are going to fucking rape their neighbors, then why not fucking bomb them? Something about the 'chickens coming home to roost' or, "he hath sowed the wind shall reap the whirlwind..."
Yeah, you're a supreme moron.
Ooooh! Someone's getting owned!
Then the EU is too. India's formation was different but by your logic it could be too and it sent it's armies to some of the states.
Who gives a fuck about India?
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We're not talking about Jews. Feel free to assume whatever you want now about my opinion of the holocaust since I'm not interested in your pointless tangents.
Well, what did you mean then? Please clarify...
The words of a sad loser. Fuck you and your "nuance", you're a confused fool.
But that is so hurtful!
That should be "you're", you illiterate bufoon.
LMFAO!! you really want to go there, "bufoon?"
You're a cocklicking ignorant American who knows nothing about the world outside you. And I did not "escape" India nor do I belong to some privileged class, you dumb fuck. You've only proved that you're capable of stupid horse shit arguments, you believe exactly what you want to. What the fuck do you know about how I built my wealth, I didn't grow up here you retarded piece of shit.
You're a cocklicking ignorant American who knows nothing about the world outside you. And I did not "escape" India nor do I belong to some privileged class, you dumb fuck. You've only proved that you're capable of stupid horse shit arguments, you believe exactly what you want to. What the fuck do you know about how I built my wealth, I didn't grow up here you retarded piece of shit.
[/QUOTE][QUOTE=Nickdfresh;1336816]Someone is getting angry over being owNeD.
Stop projecting, thicko.
Oh, oaky. So half the stuff presented evidence that Milosevic was a mass-murdering fuckstump. And you chose to disregard this to assume that it was NATO, an organization that generally doesn't start wars, that was all wrong?
The (dis)information coming from pro-US sources. I'm not sure about NATO but the US/UK do generally start fake wars. Your whole problem once again stems from your wholesale acceptance of what CNN and others have to say. It's hopeless for you.
Um, they didn't "start" the war on assumptions. They started the War as the Serbs cracked down and began ejecting the population to Albania...
Using the "genocide" and Hitler comparisons to get it started.
It was fun, and prevented a lot of deaths. I mean, if the Serbs are going to fucking rape their neighbors, then why not fucking bomb them? Something about the 'chickens coming home to roost' or, "he hath sowed the wind shall reap the whirlwind..."
Generalizations and bullshit.
Ooooh! Someone's getting owned!
You were getting owned right from the start, that's why you're such an insecure potty mouth. I'm just keeping up.
Who gives a fuck about India?
US companies that like cheaper goods. And thanks for avoiding the point about the EU, Mr. Fail. Maybe the US should invade a EU country when they feel like it next.
Well, what did you mean then? Please clarify...
Looks like Inspector Clueso has lost the plot again. Mass graves and the "holocaust" in the Balkan.
But that is so hurtful!
Then go have a nice cry while watching one of Obama's speeches.
LMFAO!! you really want to go there, "bufoon?"
You don't seem like the kind of person who's going anywhere.
Ha ha! Pegged you. didn't I, Shirley!!!
No, you thought you were onto something whereas you were being an ignorant twat. Backpedal if you like.
Can you provide a specific example of "disinformation?" Is are you like most self-describe American conservative partisans, just a fool that dismisses whatever he doesn't like because it doesn't fit into his unsupportable paradigms and worldviews?
Did Milosevic assist Serb militias and even send in his own Army to murder, rape and pillage Bosnian and Croat civilians or not? Was Kosovo emptied of its Muslim inhabitants or not?
How did the War even start? Where did it start? You can try to isolate Kosovo all you want. But the fact is that it was one major conflict starting in around 1990. And Milosodick took every advantage he could to amass his power into that of a dictator...
He was everything that you, and I, accuse Bush and Cheney of being. He was a fascist demagogue, but one with a system he could fully exploit...
You want to defend a notorious mass murderer because you don't like NATO and believe in some sort of simplistic binary-oppositions or right vs. wrong, evil vs. good, fine.
But you are a complete fuckwit, and this shows it. Because Milosevic was condemned by EVERY human rights organization!!
Check other sources, asshole...
I'm not sure about NATO but the US/UK do generally start fake wars.
Name one...
Your whole problem once again stems from your wholesale acceptance of what CNN and others have to say. It's hopeless for you.
I accept multiple, critical sources fuckbag. Do you really think your factually unsupportable, speculative conspiracy shit is somehow superior on some level?
Using the "genocide" and Hitler comparisons to get it started...
Generalizations and bullshit.
They used Bosnia and Croatia to "get it started." If the Serbs hadn't fucking ethnically cleansed, raped and pillaged, and summarily executed whole towns, then nobody would have given a fuck what they did in Kosovo!
Something that your idols tend to leave out...
You were getting owned right from the start, that's why you're such an insecure potty mouth. I'm just keeping up.
LMFAO! Right. It's like you're a four year old with a sub-high school education...
You have absolutely no grasp of the history or the wider issues of the conflict and seek the simpleton's blame game of "it's all the US' fault!" and pretend somehow history started in 1946 or 1989...
You can't even answer my basic questions because you are a fraud, incompetent, and a troll douche...and you know it...
You should go back to beating off to your John Taylor poster...
US companies that like cheaper goods. And thanks for avoiding the point about the EU, Mr. Fail. Maybe the US should invade a EU country when they feel like it next.
India doesn't really make many goods sold here. They just essentially have a few annoying call centers located there and a few software engineers derived from a perpetually unfair, and classist society that benefits pretty much only the top 1% at the top of the caste.
This is called Neo-Colonialism. And you can't just blame the British for that. You're very access to the web and this forum shows that you are the beneficiary of all you condemn...
Oh, as for your "EU" comment, it was pretty fucking stupid and again shows how you lack any context with your arguments...
But feel free to compare the EU to Tito's Yugoslavia...
Looks like Inspector Clueso has lost the plot again. Mass graves and the "holocaust" in the Balkan.
Oh, okay. So there were no mass graves in the Balkans then?
[retarded non sequitur comments deleted...]
No, you thought you were onto something whereas you were being an ignorant twat. Backpedal if you like.
How am I "backpedaling," penis sniffer? How many Indians have any sort of access to the web or any hope or wherewithal of emigrating from their overpopulated, Caste shitholes? How many actually receive any sort of extensive education beyond the most basic primitive levels? It's probably a fraction of 1%? No?
You see, when I went to college, I learned that one has to make assertions that are supported by some sort of evidence, and not just blind speculations. Something you apparently lack as you seem to think, like American Neo Cons, that just because you believe and want something to be true, it will be....
This is something you haven't learned apparently. Try enrolling in a university while you're on the dole in Glasgow...
Can you provide a specific example of "disinformation?" Is are you like most self-describe American conservative partisans, just a fool that dismisses whatever he doesn't like because it doesn't fit into his unsupportable paradigms and worldviews?
I know you have little other choice than to resort to obfuscation and outright bullshit but that's what I was talking about with regard to your official NATO versions of the war.
Did Milosevic assist Serb militias and even send in his own Army to murder, rape and pillage Bosnian and Croat civilians or not? Was Kosovo emptied of its Muslim inhabitants or not?
How did the War even start? Where did it start? You can try to isolate Kosovo all you want. But the fact is that it was one major conflict starting in around 1990. And Milosodick took every advantage he could to amass his power into that of a dictator...They used Bosnia and Croatia to "get it started." If the Serbs hadn't fucking ethnically cleansed, raped and pillaged, and summarily executed whole towns, then nobody would have given a fuck what they did in Kosovo!
Something that your idols tend to leave out...
Only because it wasn't about the whole conflict. At some point you asked for an example and Serbia was it. Only when you failed to prove anything you said, did you mention the wider conflict. (For Serbia you still don't want to admit that it wasn't the genocide it was said to be.) In that case, alright, there was a background to it and yes, the Serbs were guilty. If we're talking about the killings then, yes it was wrong. But you're still looking at it in isolation. Yes, how did it start? It started with US meddling and destabilization of Yugoslavia. Which was the general point that started off this whole discussion.
He was everything that you, and I, accuse Bush and Cheney of being. He was a fascist demagogue, but one with a system he could fully exploit...
You want to defend a notorious mass murderer because you don't like NATO and believe in some sort of simplistic binary-oppositions or right vs. wrong, evil vs. good, fine.But you are a complete fuckwit, and this shows it. Because Milosevic was condemned by EVERY human rights organization!!
Check other sources, asshole...
You don't see the irony in your post. That's exactly how you're painting Milosevic when he wasn't the evil mass murderer he was made out to be, not in the Serbian conflict (that's what we were focussed on particularly before the tangents). And you're framing this whole issue around Serbia's alleged responsibility when clearly the west plotted to destabilise the region. You glossed over all that as if it's one "conspiracy." Just facts you don't like...
And I'm not saying Milosevic could not have been guilty, but there are enough people questioning the charges brought against him. He is still the lesser of two evils compared to the west. It's not an excuse, it's just that you stand by the greater evil.
Just like you rave on about Milosevic like a morally bankrupt jerk when Kosovo's crimes were greater.
I accept multiple, critical sources fuckbag. Do you really think your factually unsupportable, speculative conspiracy shit is somehow superior on some level?
LMFAO! Right. It's like you're a four year old with a sub-high school education...
You have absolutely no grasp of the history or the wider issues of the conflict and seek the simpleton's blame game of "it's all the US' fault!" and pretend somehow history started in 1946 or 1989...
You can't even answer my basic questions because you are a fraud, incompetent, and a troll douche...and you know it...
You should go back to beating off to your John Taylor poster...
Going in circles again. Basically your strategy is to get the last word in. Does this come from watching your liberal heroes or your "college education"?
India doesn't really make many goods sold here. They just essentially have a few annoying call centers located there and a few software engineers derived from a perpetually unfair, and classist society that benefits pretty much only the top 1% at the top of the caste.
This is called Neo-Colonialism. And you can't just blame the British for that. You're very access to the web and this forum shows that you are the beneficiary of all you condemn...
How am I "backpedaling," penis sniffer? How many Indians have any sort of access to the web or any hope or wherewithal of emigrating from their overpopulated, Caste shitholes? How many actually receive any sort of extensive education beyond the most basic primitive levels? It's probably a fraction of 1%? No?
You are an ignoranamus that deals in stereotypes. It is a class based society still, however, wealth and caste don't go hand in hand. There are many rich "lower caste" people just as there are many poor "upper caste". It also created provisions for the disadvantaged classes before the US got rid of segregation and had a "lower class" president before the US elected a minority pres. It doesn't say much but it accounts for something.
And you're an arrogant cultural snob, to you India is clearly such a third world shithole and I should be thankful that I can access the web. Because all you know is the documentaries you watch there's no point in my telling you that in some respects I can have a better standard of living in India than in Scotland. Your beloved media makes a point of showing only the slums (why not a documentary focussed on trailer parks and ghettos?) when they only occupy a part of the big cities and India's a huge country. Yes, the roads are bad and a sewage system is virtually non-existant, but in contrast, houses are generally bigger, most of them have car porches (a rarity in Scotland apparently) and balconies (virtually non-existant here). There's those clunky cars that you associate with India - they started to disppear almost overnight in the late 90s and they generally have better taste and money to buy better cars than the Peugeots and Vauxhalls people buy here. I've seen many brand new sports cars on the road. They're not "pampered beneficiaries", people do manage to make money despite your assumptions. You buy into the "a dollar a day" garbage when even those people clearly have more purchasing people than their US counterparts.
Whether they're employed or not the average Indian makes it through college and some parts of the country have a high rate of literacy. I know you've got more stereotypes of water and disease which thankfully I, my relatives and friends, people I have ever known have mysteriously remained free from thus far. "High caste!" Ignorant schmuck.
Oh, as for your "EU" comment, it was pretty fucking stupid and again shows how you lack any context with your arguments...
But feel free to compare the EU to Tito's Yugoslavia...
This is where you're guilty time and again of unadulterated bullshit - comparing the 71 war to Serbia (great context). If I'm irrational, then you are too, many times fold.
Oh, okay. So there were no mass graves in the Balkans then?
Why don't you prove there were, when even the tribunal disagreed, "genius"!
No.
You see, when I went to college, I learned that one has to make assertions that are supported by some sort of evidence, and not just blind speculations. Something you apparently lack as you seem to think, like American Neo Cons, that just because you believe and want something to be true, it will be....This is something you haven't learned apparently. Try enrolling in a university while you're on the dole in Glasgow...
If you were smart enough you would get your money back. Because your "college learning" went out the other ear or through your vacant skull and you have nothing to back up your assertions than in your mind. My sources, John Pilger in particular have FAR more credibility than anything you've brought up. What you think is credible doesn't matter here.
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