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  • Nitro Express
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Aug 2004
    • 32798

    #46
    Originally posted by ELVIS
    Which is why I posted that the US was possibly trying to install a puppet regime in Iran in order to cut off oil to China...


    Yup. I think the CIA is running a color revolution in Iran so we can control it through a puppet govt. Iran is a key location for the Caspian oil and the flow of Persian Gulf oil. It's also a strategic location to Russia. NATO is slowly surrounding them. Basically NATO and the banking oligarchy was going to consolidate Russia into the fold, but Putin and the KGB put a stop to that. So that is when we started to systematically move against Russia by putting missles in easter Europe and invading countries on it's southern border.

    What NATO would love to do is get China and Russia in a war with each other to where they take each other out.
    No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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    • Nitro Express
      DIAMOND STATUS
      • Aug 2004
      • 32798

      #47
      The reality of the world is 50% of the world's population live in poverty. 25% go to bed hungry. 15% live in hellish conditions. So 90% of the world live a subpar life. 10% of the world's population live pretty well in comparison and these people live in places like Japan, North America, Europe and a few other places. Out of that 10% less than 1% pretty much run the whole world. That's the reality. That less than 1% have more control than we would care to admit they have.
      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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      • ELVIS
        Banned
        • Dec 2003
        • 44120

        #48
        Glad to see you looking at the bigger picture...

        I didn't look at things that way until I started paying attention to FORD, even though his sight is narrowed by the BCE...

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        • hideyoursheep
          ROTH ARMY ELITE
          • Jan 2007
          • 6351

          #49
          Originally posted by Nitro Express
          Yup. I think the CIA is running a color revolution in Iran so we can control it through a puppet govt.
          Been there, done that.

          Originally posted by Nitro Express
          What NATO would love to do is get China and Russia in a war with each other to where they take each other out.
          Why would we like our largest manufacuring base eliminated?

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          • ELVIS
            Banned
            • Dec 2003
            • 44120

            #50
            Because the people that are playing this global game of advanced chess could care less...


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            • Nitro Express
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 32798

              #51
              Originally posted by hideyoursheep
              Does this mean capitalism doesn't work as well as communism?

              Lots of Republican businessfolk are in bed with communist China.

              As long as they benefit from it, I guess it's okay?

              But the same cats want to call Obama a Marxist.

              You can't have it both ways.
              Communist stagnates and goes broke. China didn't want to go the way of the Soviet Union and so they traded Communism for fascism. Fascism is when the state and corporate interests become one. This allows the advantages of capatalism and the control of communism. If you look at the US now, we are becoming fascist as well. The govt and Wall Street have become one and now they are taking over corporations and firing CEOs. Obama now wants the Federal Reserve to have altimate power over our economy. We will become like China in the regard that you can run a business but the govt. and take your over anytime they want.
              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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              • Nitro Express
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 32798

                #52
                Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                Been there, done that.

                Why would we like our largest manufacuring base eliminated?
                They aren't playing ball and they are becoming too powerful. China is telling the elite that runs things in Europe and North America to go fuck themselves. Of course they do this politely. Also, we don't like to beg them to not sell our bonds but they are starting to sell them. We like China if they buy our debt and play nice but they are starting to indicate the are in the game for themselves.

                I think many business and political leaders here were naive to think we would have a billion and a half new consumers to sell to and we would start to call the shots in China over time. That isn't happening. Instead, they have us by the balls.
                No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                • Nitro Express
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Aug 2004
                  • 32798

                  #53
                  One element that is necessary to be powerful in this world is to have surfs under you. I think the cheap Chinese labor was tempting to the North American and European elites and they found a way to exploit that. Now it's apparent they don't have the influence over Bejing they once hoped they would have. Also, remember real wealth to these people isn't money. They control the banks that print the shit. No. They want real resources and oil is a huge resource. China wants the same resources they want. So now China is a competitor. It's all about who controls the resources and we are in the begining of the petrolium wars and resource wars. This will be fought economically and militarily. It will get very nasty.
                  No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                  • hideyoursheep
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 6351

                    #54
                    There's a difference between fascism, and demanding the resignation of some CEO's whose corp. has it's hands out for taxpayers money. There's a reason those companies are fucked up and the blame lies squarely at the top. No sense in handing out mortgages to people who can't pay the note, and no sense in loaning any business govt. cheese if the dickhead in charge is too inept to pay it back. Kind of defeats the purpose.

                    What company that has been bailed out thus far has recieved a government official appointed as CEO to operate in place of the failed CEO?

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                    • hideyoursheep
                      ROTH ARMY ELITE
                      • Jan 2007
                      • 6351

                      #55
                      Originally posted by Nitro Express
                      They aren't playing ball and they are becoming too powerful. China is telling the elite that runs things in Europe and North America to go fuck themselves. Of course they do this politely. Also, we don't like to beg them to not sell our bonds but they are starting to sell them. We like China if they buy our debt and play nice but they are starting to indicate the are in the game for themselves.

                      I think many business and political leaders here were naive to think we would have a billion and a half new consumers to sell to and we would start to call the shots in China over time. That isn't happening. Instead, they have us by the balls.
                      So they are capitalists after all!

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                      • ELVIS
                        Banned
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 44120

                        #56
                        Originally posted by Nitro Express
                        That isn't happening. Instead, they have us by the balls.
                        Not if they can't sell the massive amount of crap they produce to the rest of the world...

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                        • Nitro Express
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Aug 2004
                          • 32798

                          #57
                          It's all about opportunity costs. If you are China what is more important? Financing US debt so you can sell Americans plastic sex toys, clothes, Nike tennis shoes, computers, and big screen televisions, while the US and it's allies also use your money to grab the world's resources. Or do you want the resources? How do you run and expand your economy when you have to buy resources from the people who you are financing? They can shut you down and extort you. Everyone is going to grub for the oil and other raw resources because without them, nothing else matters.
                          No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32798

                            #58
                            Originally posted by hideyoursheep
                            There's a difference between fascism, and demanding the resignation of some CEO's whose corp. has it's hands out for taxpayers money. There's a reason those companies are fucked up and the blame lies squarely at the top. No sense in handing out mortgages to people who can't pay the note, and no sense in loaning any business govt. cheese if the dickhead in charge is too inept to pay it back. Kind of defeats the purpose.

                            What company that has been bailed out thus far has recieved a government official appointed as CEO to operate in place of the failed CEO?
                            Yeah, but this leads to fascism. The CEO of GM got paid $40 million a year to run the company into the ground. Either the stockholders and the board of directors clean house or the company fails. Why should the govt. bail them out? The govt. now wants the powers to take over any business if it looks like failure may hurt the economy. We aren't fascist now but man, look at what they are wanting to do. The govt. now overides the stockholders and board of directors. That's fascism.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32798

                              #59
                              Originally posted by ELVIS
                              Not if they can't sell the massive amount of crap they produce to the rest of the world...
                              That only lowers their trade surplus. China can wait us out easy. They have savings and they can manufacture. Without China our store shelves are empty. Boeing can't even make an airliner without Chinese made parts. The computers we are communicating with are probably made in China or key parts of them are. If the ship doesn't sail to the US we lose our modern lifestyle. Shit. I don't even know if we make underwear here anymore.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • hideyoursheep
                                ROTH ARMY ELITE
                                • Jan 2007
                                • 6351

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                                I think the cheap Chinese labor was tempting to the North American and European elites and they found a way to exploit that. Now it's apparent they don't have the influence over Bejing they once hoped they would have..
                                I agree with that..

                                Originally posted by Nitro Express
                                Also, remember real wealth to these people isn't money. They control the banks that print the shit. No. They want real resources and oil is a huge resource. China wants the same resources they want. So now China is a competitor.
                                China hasn't made a move on anybody to own any oil. They are just beginning to sample the type of boom we experienced during the 40's and 50's on the economic side-having so many cheap laborers working in factories who get paid by selling shit to us, so I'd say they are on the consumer side of the oil situation.

                                BTW, don't think that NK is going to be their junkyard dog, because I don't believe China wants to fuck up a good thing like they have right now. Not that it's great for them, but it's better than it's ever been. If all those people start losing those jobs created by foreigners like us due to some sort of conflict, you'll be seeing a lot more Chinese protesters standing in front of tanks.

                                If NK makes a move on anyone, China will do them like Paulie did Henry Hill...minus the 3 G's.

                                No one is going to war. Uncle Kim is just an idiot.

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