Any thoughts on the new 23 trillion cost of free healthcare?

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  • Seshmeister
    ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

    • Oct 2003
    • 35754

    That's shameful

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    • ZahZoo
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Jan 2004
      • 9170

      Originally posted by Seshmeister
      I think the vast majority of people in the UK would incredibly strongly disagree with that statement to the extent that any political party that even hints at any form of privatisation in any aspect of healthcare is completely unelectable.
      Yep... reading the news this morning it appears we've riled up the folks in the UK who are now calling bullshit on getting drug into this discussion and the targets of more misinformation.
      "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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      • Va Beach VH Fan
        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
        • Dec 2003
        • 17913

        That "RAM" company was the same one that was doing free healthcare on the other side of Virginia last month when I was over there with my son for the Senior Little League state championships...

        They had people camping out overnight, but still had to turn several hundred people away...

        Try telling those people there's no healthcare issue....
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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35754

          Originally posted by ZahZoo
          Yep... reading the news this morning it appears we've riled up the folks in the UK who are now calling bullshit on getting drug into this discussion and the targets of more misinformation.

          I saw an interview with that lunatic Beck and some obscure British politician that noone has heard of here and he was just full of bullshit.

          A mixture of factually wrong with stupid nonsense. He may get thrown out his party after this.

          Or strung up.

          At one point he said the UK healthcare system is the 3rd biggest employer in the world. Funny things about that are
          a) It isn't - the US military is #3
          b) Everyone here wishes it was but it's only 5th or 6th. Why wouldn't you want 100s of thousands of clinicians and nurses? Isn't a good thing to have 10 times as many people working in health care than in your military?
          Last edited by Seshmeister; 08-14-2009, 04:26 PM.

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          • standin
            Veteran
            • Apr 2009
            • 2274

            Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
            That "RAM" company was the same one that was doing free healthcare on the other side of Virginia last month when I was over there with my son for the Senior Little League state championships...

            They had people camping out overnight, but still had to turn several hundred people away...

            Try telling those people there's no healthcare issue....
            Between needing international oversight on our voting and relief orgs caring for our health needs. Why we are not classified as 3rd world is beyond me.

            not to mention some areas of backwoods that are completely out of governing loop.
            To put it simply, we need to worry a lot less about how to communicate our actions and much more about what our actions communicate.
            MICHAEL G. MULLEN

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            • FORD
              ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

              • Jan 2004
              • 59618

              NBC needs to fire Douchebag Gregory and give Press the Meat to Lawrence O'Donnell immediately.

              THIS is how you treat Repuke idiots!!

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              • jhale667
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 20929

                I saw this...O'Donnell was like a rabid pit bull there for a minute, but the guy was totally trying to evade the questions...
                Originally posted by conmee
                If anyone even thinks about deleting the Muff Thread they are banned.... no questions asked.

                That is all.

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                Originally posted by GO-SPURS-GO
                I've seen prominent hypocrite liberal on this site Jhale667


                Originally posted by Isaac R.
                Then it's really true??

                The Muff Thread is really just GONE ???

                OMFG...who in their right mind...???
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                I was wrong about you, brother. You're good.

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                • Baby's On Fire
                  Veteran
                  • May 2004
                  • 1747

                  Why do Republicans always complain about cost, but they never complain about the cost of the illegal invasion and occupation of Iraq?

                  And this idiot said "Medicare was very successful and very wasteful".

                  How can it be successful and wasteful at the same time?

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49567

                    Or acknowledge that the current health care bills are costing about as much over ten years as two years of the military budget..

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                    • Angel
                      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 7481

                      Blackflag, those so-called "stats" are a joke, and I'd love to know where they come from! Every Canadian female I know starts getting annual pap smears when they start menstruating - where the hell this "less than 90&#37;" have ever had a pap smear comes from, I have NO idea.

                      Same with the mammogram stats. Any woman over the age of 45 that doesn't get them is because she chooses not to, not because the doctor doesn't recommend it, or the government says no. Hell, I get annual reminders that it's time to book an appointment for both pap & mammograms!

                      I've had a pacemaker for almost 20 years. I'm on my third one now, and I ALWAYS get the top of the line.

                      Argue your "stats" all you want - I prefer to base my arguments on actual experience.
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                      • Baby's On Fire
                        Veteran
                        • May 2004
                        • 1747

                        Originally posted by Angel
                        Blackflag, those so-called "stats" are a joke, and I'd love to know where they come from! Every Canadian female I know starts getting annual pap smears when they start menstruating - where the hell this "less than 90%" have ever had a pap smear comes from, I have NO idea.

                        Same with the mammogram stats. Any woman over the age of 45 that doesn't get them is because she chooses not to, not because the doctor doesn't recommend it, or the government says no. Hell, I get annual reminders that it's time to book an appointment for both pap & mammograms!

                        I've had a pacemaker for almost 20 years. I'm on my third one now, and I ALWAYS get the top of the line.

                        Argue your "stats" all you want - I prefer to base my arguments on actual experience.
                        The American right wing loves to misstate the facts about Canadian healthcare...it's real simple in Canada:

                        If you have a life-threatening ailment, you get diagnosed and treated fast. If you simply need elective surgery or your ailment is not life threatening, you wait.

                        Our system is not the best in the World..but NO Canadian goes broke paying for health care. Our society is far more free than than the USA......

                        If a person is a citizen...they are taken care of...exactly what a true democracy is all about....Sorry, but the USA is NOT A DEMOCRACY IN ANY WAY.....

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                        • Nickdfresh
                          SUPER MODERATOR

                          • Oct 2004
                          • 49567

                          Originally posted by Angel
                          Blackflag, those so-called "stats" are a joke, and I'd love to know where they come from! Every Canadian female I know starts getting annual pap smears when they start menstruating - where the hell this "less than 90%" have ever had a pap smear comes from, I have NO idea....
                          He's just jealous as he doesn't' get free pap smears when he menstruates....

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                          • Blackflag
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 3406

                            Originally posted by Angel
                            Blackflag, those so-called "stats" are a joke,
                            What stats? This post has 8 pages, and it's from two weeks ago... how am I supposed to know what you're responding to? Try the 'quote' button. Ass.

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