Moore: Americans are 'The Dumbest People on the Planet'

[LoungeMachine]

Originally posted by pete
I feel fine.

I don't have to live and lie within the confines that American society dictates to maintain my career/way of life.

I'm an educator! A teacher! And a Doctor in my field (as of last week).

I feel bad for you.

Seriously.

Good for you pete. well done and congrats

Imagine 43 Nobel Prize winners coming out for Dubya?

Team Rove wanted Dean in the worst way. Wait until the debates. These busheep will swcatter like rats



btw
do we have to call you Dr. Pete now?

[Big Train]

Posted by Pete:
I feel fine.

I don't have to live and lie within the confines that American society dictates to maintain my career/way of life.

I'm an educator! A teacher! And a Doctor in my field (as of last week).

I feel bad for you.

Seriously.


Thanks Pete, I really need your pity. I can tell you have your Doctorate, you have the arrogance of a Prof. down pat. Seriously....

Who cares how you live your life? Be free, Americans fought for that right.

I think Dubya will suprise you in the debates. He may stumble, but he at least will be able to respond, unlike Kerry.

I only have a BM and an MBA though, what do I know?

[John Ashcroft]

Heh heh heh... Look at all the invective coming out of the "open minded" liberals! Awesome!

Guys, (and Dr. Pete), the better question would be "Why isn't Bush down by 10 points by now?" I mean, you libs have been shooting your collective wad for months, and yet Dubya's numbers remain firm (and ahead of Kerry's). In fact, support for the war in Iraq actually increased following Michael Moore's movie. You've got hollywood, rock stars, billionaires, the press, France, etc. all warning us peasants of just how dangerous the current President is to everyone and everything. And yet he remains ahead of Kerry. Interesting. What gives?

Now, can I ask again? Why, if you plan on living your life free and in control of your own destiny, do you support liberals who continously call for government intervention for all social issues? Liberals who want to take more money out your pockets "for the common good"? If you're making it regardless of the government, why call for government? It's truly confusing. It's absolutely fantastic that you're making a living without government meddling. It's how this country's supposed to work. It's why America advances while the rest of the world stagnates. Again, it's what you're supposed to do. Why support people who'd fuck it up?

Oh, and just one more thing... All this freedom is secured by the United States Armed Forces. Period. Do you find yourselves supporting them?

[Pink Spider]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
I mean, you libs have been shooting your collective wad for months, and yet Dubya's numbers remain firm (and ahead of Kerry's). In fact, support for the war in Iraq actually increased following Michael Moore's movie. You've got hollywood, rock stars, billionaires, the press, France, etc. all warning us peasants of just how dangerous the current President is to everyone and everything. And yet he remains ahead of Kerry. Interesting. What gives?

To get into an argument that I care little about, it depends on what polls you look at. A Fox "News" poll would obviously be pro-Bush and say a CBS poll would be pro-Kerry. Its all about demographics. Nothing more.

Now, can I ask again? Why, if you plan on living your life free and in control of your own destiny, do you support liberals who continously call for government intervention for all social issues? Liberals who want to take more money out your pockets "for the common good"? If you're making it regardless of the government, why call for government? It's truly confusing. It's absolutely fantastic that you're making a living without government meddling. It's how this country's supposed to work. It's why America advances while the rest of the world stagnates. Again, it's what you're supposed to do. Why support people who'd fuck it up?

You mean they should support the gun banning Bush, who wants to have every intelligence agency spying on the American people? is banning gay marriage not a social issue? Is corporate welfare not a social issue? You're paying for it aren't you?

We need public schools, libraries and yes even health care. There is majority public support across the board for all 3. Nothing said will change that. Although, I will agree with the "conservative" side and say that we need to curb unnecessary government waste. Congress is due for a pay cut.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by John Ashcroft
Hey, you and I actually agree here! Why in the hell would anyone trust the government to specify what's best for them? So why do dems keep calling for government intervention for every single real or imaginary social ailment???

Because left to our own devices, most of the money our gov't recieves from us would just be dumped into the human meatgrinder system the Bushies has set up for us, or into the pockets of the execs. And I understand the economics that nets CEOs millions/year, but the fact that their is theory behind it doesn't make it right.

One of the main reasons not to vote for Democrats, which every republican holds dear to their heart, was repeated to me last night by my friend's mom: "If we let the dems in, they'll give all the money to the... " well let's just say to the u'rban community.'

And of course I don't want all my tax dollars dropped on the poorest people just so they can buy a couple more pairs of nike's or what ever else they use to wear their life savings on their person.

But what the fuck?? That's a hell of a lot better than spending it on bombs to blow the hell out of stupid rag-heads halfway around the world so that the people running the country get their cut of the profit margin.

It's so easy to understand. Vote for Bush if you agree that it's alright to wage war for profit for a small oligarchy. Vote for Kerry if you think that humanity should be more than cannon fodder so someone will by bombs off of our leaders and their friends.

seriously, whether or not we throw the poor a couple more bones is not a good enough reason so vote yes on a referendum for wholesale murder and theft.

[ODShowtime]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
No John.

Just as your president evidently speaks to about 40-43% of all Americans

A sitting president

A "war" president

A president that is "turning the corner and won't turn back" on the lagest loss of jobs since Hoover

A president that HAD the support and sympathy of the world post 9/11

A president with a campaign war chest twice his opponent

AND HE'S NOT LEADING IN THE POLLS OUTSIDE THE MARGIN OF ERROR 3MONTHS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION?

Considering how low you think of the dems, what is your theory as to why your president is doing so poorly in the face of lame competition and his record to stand on?

hmmmm


maybe he's a dolt

an arrogant, spoiled dolt

What company was he ever involved with that was NOT worse off after he left than when it was handed to him on a platter?

name one

oil - failed
baseball - failed

presidency - FAILED

VERY well said. I mostly quoted it just so it's on here twice. I mean,

Ashcroft... you want to vote for a man who's tanked every organization he's worked for? Obviously he only got these jobs because of his family. The least he could do is be competent!! Or at the very minimum he could do is not freakin' commit SEC violations!!!!!!

I mean come on!

[WolfStar999]

In order to succeed, you have to be your own toughest critic. That being said, should we not take a long hard look at ourselves as Americans and just how our country is being run? If this makes me unpatriotic to all the "America: Love or Leave It" jack-offs, then you can put me on the first plane outta here.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Big Train
Keeyth

You still are and always will be the bitch. Nice way to edit my commentary. Liberals always have a way of bending statements and truths their way. Nice job with the demonstration above....

Nobody called "Big Train" should be calling anyone else a bitch! A train is what I pull on a bitch! :D

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Big Train
Not that any of you of the liberal persuasion are going to believe this argument, I will try anyway.

Section 215 is logical if you are actually talking about terrorists.

O.K. stop right there. Go check out how broad the term 'terrorist' is in that document. They aren't just talking about Muslims there buddy, they're talking about you and me.
Average Joe American.
Anyone.

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
Another great debate brought to you by the John Ashcroft School of Discourse.

Yes, Mike's fat

Yes, Mike's from Flint

He's also one of MANY holding a microscope up to that anthill of an administration we have.

And the little RepublicANTS are feeling the heat.

Karen Hughes couldn't wait to bolt

Tenet took off like an Oklahoma prom dress in time to duck the scathing 9/11 critique of his "slam dunk" intel

Calls for rummy's resignation FROM BOTH SIDES following his Major League Fuck Up of the Abu Grahib COVERUP

Powell? Wants out
Rice? Made to look like the parrot she is
Cheney? Nearly dumped by the ticket

So much for Richard Perle's contention that Iraq's rebuilding would pay for itself

So much for Cheney's "we'll be greeted as liberators in the streets"

Remember the tough talking shrub daring them to "bring it on"??

Well they brought it on alright


So you go ahead and repeat ad nauseum your FUCK MIKE MOORE FROM FLINT crap all you want.

We'll see you at the polls in November

Well put! Here's a vote for ya! :D

[Big Train]

Nobody called "Big Train" should be calling anyone else a bitch! A train is what I pull on a bitch!

Keep working on those comebacks, I'm sure they will improve...

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
No John.

Just as your president evidently speaks to about 40-43% of all Americans

A sitting president

A "war" president

A president that is "turning the corner and won't turn back" on the lagest loss of jobs since Hoover

A president that HAD the support and sympathy of the world post 9/11

A president with a campaign war chest twice his opponent

AND HE'S NOT LEADING IN THE POLLS OUTSIDE THE MARGIN OF ERROR 3MONTHS PRIOR TO THE ELECTION?

Considering how low you think of the dems, what is your theory as to why your president is doing so poorly in the face of lame competition and his record to stand on?

hmmmm


maybe he's a dolt

an arrogant, spoiled dolt

What company was he ever involved with that was NOT worse off after he left than when it was handed to him on a platter?

name one

oil - failed
baseball - failed

presidency - FAILED

Damn, if I could vote for you twice, I would!:D

[Big Train]

Posted by Keeyth:

O.K. stop right there. Go check out how broad the term 'terrorist' is in that document. They aren't just talking about Muslims there buddy, they're talking about you and me.
Average Joe American.
Anyone.

All legal language is overly broad. I know your afraid of abuses and if and when we get there, it will be dealt with. You can say "how will we know"? If it is an abuse that bad, you will know..

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Big Train
Let it all out boys, you'll feel better...

The bottom line is when it comes down to it, Dubya is walking with the gold in November. End of story.

Maybe that's why you're so confused. You just don't get it. This ain't about some fucking olympic GAME, Big Train. There is no Gold. This is about our country, and moreso, the INTEGRITY of our country's future...

[Keeyth]

Originally posted by Big Train

All legal language is overly broad. I know your afraid of abuses and if and when we get there, it will be dealt with. You can say "how will we know"? If it is an abuse that bad, you will know..

I'm sorry but that is pure bullshit. If there is an abuse, it will be something like someone getting locked up in Guantanomo Bay with the other 'terrorists' with no access to legal counsel for an indefinite period, and maybe never... ...just HOW will we know??

I mean c'mon, YOU didn't even know that the election in 2000 was fixed, and stolen! You're STILL in denial about that. Not a very good watchdog on abuses, now are you?