Court Hears Second Amendment Debate On City Ban

[BigBadBrian]

every illegal gun a criminal uses was at one point in time legal. the more legal guns, the more potential illegal guns.

So you're saying ban all guns?

[hideyoursheep]

every illegal gun a criminal uses was at one point in time legal. the more legal guns, the more potential illegal guns.

AK's, UZI's and other assorted assault weapons are NOT legal, nor should they be.

Find me that guy who needs to hunt wild game with an automatic or semi-auto weapon....


...there isn't one.

[Nickdfresh]

How can you ban criminals from having illegal guns ???

You can't. But they often steal them (having guns actually makes you a target for burglars, my brother has had several firearms stolen) or use mules to buy them in states with reckless gun laws (or lack of therein)...

Incidentally, a Chicago resident can own a "long-gun" such as a shotgun...

[Nickdfresh]

Another problem is the justice system. Prison is a badge of honor for a lot of criminals. And when they are there, they get TV, 3 meals, medical/dental, Internet, etc... Prison is supposed to suck. Bring the hammer down on violent offenders and quit wasting the cell space on pot heads.

I've met people who've been in prison, I'm pretty sure it sucks....

Part of the problem with prisons is that you're essentially forced to join a gang, and for younger offenders, it becomes the college of criminal skills chock full of great courses...

[Seshmeister]

California has very strict gun laws compared to most other states. Yet ranked top?

Your source is just a whole lot of anti-gun propaganda. How many deaths/murders were committed by other means? How many of the gun deaths were caused by a registered gun vs. a gun that was possessed illegally? How many of these deaths were caused by criminals that the justice system failed to keep locked up on other charges?

I didn't want to start that circular debate again so I was just pointing out the dead kids under 5.

If you keep a gun you are statistically far far far far more likely for your kid to accidently get shot than you are to ever use it to defend yourself.

This mythical scenario where the bad guys come to your house and you threaten or shoot them with your legal handgun is incredibly rare.

[ELVIS]

having guns actually makes you a target for burglars

Having anything makes you a target for burglars, DFB...

[ELVIS]

..and what are "reckless gun laws" ??

[LoungeMachine]

..and what are "reckless gun laws" ??

Those are gun laws which are reckless.....

[ELVIS]

Such as ??

[Blackflag]

statistically far far far far more likely

I'm pretty sure he got this info from a CDC report. It just has that indicia of credibility about it.

[FORD]

AK's, UZI's and other assorted assault weapons are NOT legal, nor should they be.

Find me that guy who needs to hunt wild game with an automatic or semi-auto weapon....


...there isn't one.

And if there is, he's probably not much of a hunter.

[kwame k]

Geez, we've been over this so many times before......close the loopholes in the gun/trade shows and enforce the laws already on the books.

Waiting 7 days to buy a gun isn't trampling on anyone's right to bear arms. Even though a close inspection on that Right will show it was more about militias than anything else.

A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.

Make anyone wanting an assault type rifle, with a banana clip, adhere to the same special license that anyone who wants to use a fully automatic weapon has to adhere to.
Yes, you can legally have fully automatic weapons in the US, if you have a special permit.

[ELVIS]

Why should guns be registered anyway ??

[kwame k]

Why should guns be registered anyway ??

Registration of guns, per say, I'm not for but having to have a background check to purchase a gun.....I'm all for.

[jhale667]

Registration of guns, per say, I'm not for but having to have a background check to purchase a gun.....I'm all for.

I think they should be registered. Why not? And background checks are good - especially if they keep guns out of the hands of people like ELVIS...