Popular Teacher Fatally Shot After Entering Wrong House

[binnie]

OK, I've just seen the 'Police believe the door was unlocked' part - I apologize for being a dumbass (I feel that I should groan myself) :D

I still don't get it though - isn't locking the door something everyone does? Doesn't strike me as a family living in fear.

[binnie]

reread the article maybe. the door was unlocked. intruders probably don't have an issue with breaking a window to get in, even if it is locked. just sayin'.

Agreed. If someone breaks and enters, then I think it is safe to assume that they pose a threat.

That being said, I'll never condone shooting to kill because it's just not part of our culture.

[Blackflag]

Not sure what you're getting at BF.

When you go to bed at night, do you not check that all of the windows and doors are locked?

Usually, but I'm not obsessive about it. I have a doorwall in the back, so if somebody wants in, they just have to pick up a rock.

I mean, you're not seriously saying that the best defense against intruders is to lock your door? They're intruders. As in - intrude past your locked door.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

don't you dare ever self-groan! savicki does that shit.

[binnie]

I mean, you're not seriously saying that the best defense against intruders is to lock your door? They're intruders. As in - intrude past your locked door.

I think that we have established by this point that I am being a dumbass today :D

What I am saying is, if you lock all of your doors and windows then someone has to break-in to enter. If someone breaks-in, I think it is safe to assume that they pose a threat to you and your property. Then it is permissable to use force against them, IMO.

[Blackflag]

That being said, I'll never condone shooting to kill because it's just not part of our culture.

The cops shoot to kill, where ever you live. So it is part of the "culture." Shooting is deadly force.

Unless you live in a Chuck Norris movie, and you're winging people in the shoulder. But if you're that fucking awesome, you should just karate chop them into submission.

[Blackflag]

I think that we have established by this point that I am being a dumbass today :D

What I am saying is, if you lock all of your doors and windows then someone has to break-in to enter. If someone breaks-in, I think it is safe to assume that they pose a threat to you and your property. Then it is permissable to use force against them, IMO.

Fair enough. But without any further information, as above, I think you're just startled by a dude standing in your house, and you don't know if he broke in, walked in, or what the fuck.

[binnie]

The cops shoot to kill, where ever you live. So it is part of the "culture." Shooting is deadly force.

Unless you live in a Chuck Norris movie, and you're winging people in the shoulder. But if you're that fucking awesome, you should just karate chop them into submission.

In the UK, the average police officer does not carry a firearm, and thus do not shoot to kill.

Armed police are only called in exceptional circumstances - i.e. if a criminal is armed. Even then, they will most likely use rubber bullets if possible. Shooting to kill is a last resort here.

[Sensible Shoes]

The article also says the guy DID warn him. I don't know where the "just shot him" part came from - I mean why would the shooter say that - and who the hell was there to prove otherwise?

[Blackflag]

In the UK, the average police officer does not carry a firearm, and thus do not shoot to kill.

Armed police are only called in exceptional circumstances - i.e. if a criminal is armed. Even then, they will most likely use rubber bullets if possible. Shooting to kill is a last resort here.

Understood. But when it is time for them to resort to deadly force, they shoot to kill.

That's the test - whether deadly force is appropriate in the circumstances. Whether the guy actually dies is irrelevant. There's not a circumstance where they would say - shooting is justified in the circumstance, but only non-deadly shooting.

[Sensible Shoes]

BTW - this was also the same town where a sniper took down an abortion doctor in his kitchen.

[MAX]

don't you dare ever self-groan! savicki does that shit.

every, single morning and in his mirror, right?

[Anonymous]

Ya know, even when I visit my good friends DURING THE DAYTIME, people I can trust & are always welcome at my place as I am at theirs, I NEVER, EVER enter their place without knocking.

EVEN if I called saying "hey, I'll be dropping in in a while".

I KNOCK. They open, I get in.

And vice versa.

Cheers! :bottle:

[Blackflag]

Ya know, even when I visit my good friends DURING THE DAYTIME, people I can trust & are always welcome at my place as I am at theirs, I NEVER, EVER enter their place without knocking.

EVEN if I called saying "hey, I'll be dropping in in a while".

I KNOCK. They open, I get in.

And vice versa.

Cheers! :bottle:

Then how come your mom doesn't knock when she visits my place?

[Anonymous]

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