Popular Teacher Fatally Shot After Entering Wrong House

[Nitro Express]

You know, does anybody believe that legal gun owners live to shoot somebody that intrude into their houses??? Does anybody here really comprehend the ramifications to a person that takes somebody's life????

Of course they were.. This was something that was devastating (I'm sure)to the person that shot as well to the family of the victim. Fuck the armchair people that criticize something they've never had to make that kind of decision...

If you are going to use a gun in defense you need to remove emotion. You need to identify the threat and Quickly assess the situation to see if pulling the trigger is justified. It should be an unemotional, disciplined process. If you are quick to anger or afraid of pulling the trigger two things happen. You shoot someone out of anger instead of them being a real threat or you freeze and they read that and take the gun from you.

It's cold business. You don't pull a gun to threaten you pull a gun to kill and if you pull that trigger you are aiming to kill. Much like how the samuri always had to draw blood when they unshealthed their katana. Even if it was a small cut on their finger. They knew they only pulled that blade to draw blood. It was serious business. Guns used in defense are the same. If you pull one out you better be willing to follow through and actually use it.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

produce it better use, if i produce it someone's leavin'......whooahoah

[Nitro Express]

and if ya do, tap three to center mass, then continue flow chart.

The next step on the flow chart is to tell the police you were AFRAID and feared for you life and your loved ones. Never say you are angry and never get cocky saying the asshole got what they deserved. Always say you were in fear for your life and leave it at that. The less said the better.

Also make sure you kill the SOB because it's just your story because if you just maim them, they will come at you with legal charges and you will lose in court and have to support the asshole for the rest of their life.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

and if the guy was drunk, didn't heed the warning, and continued towards the homeowner, how can ya possibly fault him? must notta been birdshot tho. cheney's "buddy" was "lucky".

[Nitro Express]

If I produce it, I'm too busy reading your body language and quickly interpreting it against a set of shoot don't, shoot justifications in my head. I don't have the time to get emotional. I'm assessing you like The Terminator and if my weapon comes out I mean to use it and if you are a deadly threat or a threat of serious personal injury, all that training is coming at you in the form of lead aimed at the brain, the spinal column and the heart. I'm not going to shoot off your pinky toe.

[Nitro Express]

and if the guy was drunk, didn't heed the warning, and continued towards the homeowner, how can ya possibly fault him? must notta been birdshot tho. cheney's "buddy" was "lucky".

That's one of the tricky situations. Usually the pulling of a weapon drives it home you are serious but the guy might be suicidal or just fucked in the head. You have to read the body language because they can pull a weapon or if you let them get to close to you, they can snag yours. You don't want to be in a wrestling match struggling over your firearm. So there is a ring around you that if they invade that space after warning them, you may have to dispatch them because once your weapon is out in the open and you display you mean business, and they continue to push forward, then they have issues.

This is one of the worst situations. A drunken fool in your house but you would have to be pretty fucked up not to get the fact you have a pissed off home owner with a gun pointed at you. I've never been messed up to the point where I would not understand that a 12 guage pointed at me means turn around and get the fuck out!

[PETE'S BROTHER]

I've never been messed up to the point where I would not understand that a 12 guage pointed at me means turn around and get the fuck out!

me neither, least not that i remember.

[LoungeMachine]

I am a female, I was taught different. I was taught to be more deadly.

Were you also taught to post naked pics of yourself on websites?

[hideyoursheep]

Were you also taught to post naked pics of yourself on websites?

Wouldn't that be considered deadly force?

[hideyoursheep]

How does someone "enter" wrong house without key?

If it were unlocked,and the shooting justified, then Kramer should have been dead the first season!

[Seshmeister]

It's interesting that in the US on average someone is shot dead every day by the police whereas in the UK its about 3 a year.

I just don't buy that guns make you safer and neither do the statistics.

[hideyoursheep]

It's interesting that in the US on average someone is shot dead every day by the police whereas in the UK its about 3 a year.

I just don't buy that guns make you safer and neither do the statistics.

Depends on where in the states you live, I think...


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[Seshmeister]

Is that from 'Americas Dumbest Cops'?

[hideyoursheep]

Nah, Shesh...that's where I decided to move in '97.

I felt safer..

[Igosplut]

I'd love to see a case where they charged someone that was obviously was defending their own, or their family's, life...

THIS is a good example of what I'm talking about in MA. They spent FIVE months investigating this security guard looking for an angle to charge him in the shooting death of a psychiatric patient as the patient stabbed a doctor multiple times. The burden is always on the shooter regardless of the actions of the person shot. I'll look around for more cases..

Here's some links to the incident.. The first one states that it was justified, but they investigated him for five more months.

Preliminary investigation finds patient's shooting was justifiable

MGH slaying to be investigated as police-involved shooting