Whose country is this?

[Guitar Shark]

Illegal immigrants plan to leave over Ariz. law

Supporters of the law hope it creates jobs for thousands of Americans.

Even if this actually happens, it will be interesting to see how many of those "Americans" will actually do this work for the same rate of pay. I think a lot of teh supporters of this bill are under the illusion that illegal workers will be replaced by legal ones with no consequences. Let's see how many of the unemployed "legals" in Arizona will do heavy labor for $8/hr. While the law has some benefits, they do not come without a cost. In this case, that cost is going to be increased labor costs which will be passed down to the consumer.

[Jagermeister]

He is most likely married to a beaner. He can't just go sending all his relatives back across the border.

This just in from CNN radio news - The Pima county sheriff says he will refuse to enforce this new racist ass law which he believes (and rightfully so) is unconstitutional.

Good to see that Tucson is still a little more sane than Phoenix. But I'm still not in a hurry to get to the desert.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Incidentally, speaking of illegal immigrant thugs and gangsters--some of their biggest victims are undocumented workers. And you know what? This bill will only make things worse, because honest, hardworking illegally hired workers will now only fear police more and will no longer cooperate with them in finding the true career criminals and narco-terrorist drug dealers...

Enjoy the violence...

yup, i'm sure the "linea caliente" is ringin' off the hook for tree trimmers from venezuala callin' in to rat out "el jefe" the human trafficer.

[MAX]

Right, super-genius. And I posted my opinion on why I think he's a dick for that. It's called having principles...

But whatever, if you really believe bumper-stickers should in anyway be some sort of probable cause, good luck!

"Principles?" Oh dear Nikk, your ignorance is showing.

Well, we have something in common. Maybe if I knew what yours were...

Whether you (or anyone else for that matter) disagree with my support of enforcing the law, that's entirely your problem. I don't support people breaking the law, do support cops enforcing it and letting the guilty party's having the door hit 'em where the good lord split them. Clear enough?

You mean the one where I actually posted the post-WWII legislation that effectively created the school lunch program?

Yeah, that's the one. Except you're excluding the part where I had to answer your own question for you. Again historian, the program ORIGINATED (that's what you initially asked in a vain attempt to stump me, no?) many years prior to WWII!!!

You really got me there, Maxi!!

Thanks and I'm grateful to get the kudos that I soooo rightfully deserved regarding that one. :D

I mean, you're quite a master debater.

Never once have I ever claimed to be as such. However, at times there's just way too much boo-fucking-hoo'ing in here and I cannot help but arguing. It's especially fun with you Nikk cos you're always in a pissy mood to begin with. Thus, it's extremely easy to push your buttons just by saying 'ello.



Have a spectacular day.

[MAX]

He is most likely married to a beaner. He can't just go sending all his relatives back across the border.

We all know where I stand regarding this issue but that wasn't fucking cool at all!!!

[MAX]

Even if this actually happens, it will be interesting to see how many of those "Americans" will actually do this work for the same rate of pay.

Check the unemployment stats lately? People are far more willing to do jobs they never even considered years ago just to bring home a paycheck and have a job.

Here's an example; My little bro owns a landscape company. Anyway, he has a lot of Mexicans on his payroll. Ummmm... He also makes them fill out W-2's prior to hiring them and they're all legal. I mean, he doesn't want to ever be audited and break the fucking law!!! Regardless and not the point. Anyhoo, I was helping him do a deck last summer for some extra cash. He always takes the crew to lunch, we went to a Carl's Jr. where the staff behind the counter were all caucasian people who appeared as if they should be retired. A couple of our Mexican co-workers started complaining that the economy had gotten so bad that white people were taking the Mexican jobs!!! Seriously, they were beyond irked that these old folks weren't sitting home, playing pinochle and had to actually work just like everyone else.

So Sharky, just goes to show that YES the American public both will and do take the jobs that you're implying they will not.

[FORD]

The large ship building companies here in Louisiana hire illegals who have obtained Social Security numbers...

Nah, that's just a rumor that they spread around town.....

[Jagermeister]

Are u married to a beaner also?


Fuck I am sorry bro. I am bad about throwing around racial slurs with little regard for whom they might offend. I just have a problem with wet back greasers primarily.

Again no offence.

[Jagermeister]

You seem to be pretty good at it. Have you been studying The Racial Slur Database?

I know the guy that wrote it. I subscribe to the "can" theory.

[Jagermeister]

Here is a link.

http://www.rsdb.org/

[MAX]

Are u married to a beaner also?

I'm sorry but I'm unaware of that term? My girlfriend happens to be of both Italian and Irish descents though. Oh wait... I get it with the food reference... Ahhhhhh... Yes, she can be a meatball at times but she loves me in spite of my faults.

Fuck I am sorry bro. I am bad about throwing around racial slurs with little regard for whom they might offend. I just have a problem with wet back greasers primarily.

Again no offence.

No "offence" taken cos I'm also bad about throwing around slurs with little regard for whom they might offend. I just have a problem with ignorant, bigoted, white fucking trash... Primarily.

[Blackflag]

Who is this honkey biatch white bread subdivision-dwelling motherfucker?

Jagermeister is like rat puke, btw.

[Jagermeister]

I don't understand why people are offended by slurs. I resemble a cracker. What's the big damn deal. I don’t resemble white trash so when called that I simply don’t care because it does not represent me in the least. So I suspect that if ”wet back” “beaner” or “ greaser”is offensive to someone it must be because they feel it actually represents them in some way.

Does “legal immigrant” stir any emotion? No. Does illegal immigrant driving around with no insurance no drivers license, paying no taxes stir any emotion? Damn straight it does. Ameri 'cans have earned the right to bash illegal immigrants in my opinion. Freedom of speech only applies to you if you are in the country legally. Other wise shut the fuck up.

Thanks and have a nice day.

[Guitar Shark]

Check the unemployment stats lately? People are far more willing to do jobs they never even considered years ago just to bring home a paycheck and have a job.

Here's an example; My little bro owns a landscape company. Anyway, he has a lot of Mexicans on his payroll. Ummmm... He also makes them fill out W-2's prior to hiring them and they're all legal. I mean, he doesn't want to ever be audited and break the fucking law!!! Regardless and not the point. Anyhoo, I was helping him do a deck last summer for some extra cash. He always takes the crew to lunch, we went to a Carl's Jr. where the staff behind the counter were all caucasian people who appeared as if they should be retired. A couple of our Mexican co-workers started complaining that the economy had gotten so bad that white people were taking the Mexican jobs!!! Seriously, they were beyond irked that these old folks weren't sitting home, playing pinochle and had to actually work just like everyone else.

So Sharky, just goes to show that YES the American public both will and do take the jobs that you're implying they will not.

I don't understand how checking the unemployment stats is going to answer the question of whether the unemployed are going to do menial labor for low pay. My wife has been unemployed for over a year and I don't have to check the unemployment stats to know that she isn't going to be applying for any fruit picking gigs. The example you gave of your "little bro" is such a small sample of evidence that it's not really worth discussing, but even if it is, you've hardly shown that this isolated incident is representative of the labor force as a whole. I just don't see most American unemployed rushing out to take menial labor jobs, no matter how long they've been unemployed. Maybe I'm wrong, but no one has a crystal ball here.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Maybe I'm wrong, but no one has a crystal ball here.

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