Election results thread

[chefcraig]

True, but in one of Thomas Jefferson's writings from 1802, I think, he specifically mentions that they intended for there to be a "Wall of Separation" between the two in the First Amendment.

Correct, but this points out one of the few flaws with the written words of the Constitution: Implied intent. As a result, it created the vast cottage industry of lawyers practicing Constitutional law in this country, one that shows no sign of slowing down or going away any time soon, as they wrangle back and forth to this very day about just what it was the Founders actually meant.

[GAR]

.. between the Church, specifically Church of England at the time, not G-d in general.

Know your history..

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[jhale667]

Correct, but this points out one of the few flaws with the written words of the Constitution: Implied intent. As a result, it created the vast cottage industry of lawyers practicing Constitutional law in this country, one that shows no sign of slowing down or going away any time soon, as they wrangle back and forth to this very day about just what it was the Founders actually meant.

Yep, totally agree they should have specified that in no uncertain terms, so knuckle-draggers like GAyR wouldn't mistakenly think (or wish) they were ONLY referring to the Church of England...but as you know, that's more a reading comprehension issue there, since the First Amendment states "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion" - as in ANY...

[Nitro Express]

I think it's that many conservatives are hardcore Christians and so used to being told what to think.

Yup. Conservative Christians believe their ministers and Liberal leftists believe their Marxist professors. One side believes a theocracy will bring utopia and the other side believes a big government that redistributes wealth will bring it. The reality is both result in lots of dead people.

[Nitro Express]

Very few people think for themselves. It's too much work. They would rather have the thinking done for them and the smart manipulators find ways to make turning over your freedom and enjoyable experience. They don't come in with guns blazing, they just find creative ways to dumb you down and keep you happy and get you so lazy you welcome the government check and then they have you.

[Sgt Schultz]

Stu Rothenberg, Idgit
In April of 2009 “Stuart Rothenberg noted that a trio of Republicans "have raised the possibility of the GOP winning back the House of Representatives next year":

Rothenberg then said;
“That idea is lunacy and ought to be put to rest immediately.”

“None of the three actually predicted that Republicans would gain the 40 seats that they need for a majority, but all three held out hope that that's possible. It isn't. . . .
there are no signs of a dramatic rebound for the party, and the chance of Republicans winning control of either chamber in the 2010 midterm elections is zero. Not "close to zero." Not "slight" or "small." Zero.”
“Big changes in the House require a political wave. You can cherry-pick your way to a five- or eight-seat gain, but to win dozens of seats, a party needs a wave.”

“Recruiting better candidates and running better campaigns won't produce anything like what took place in 1980, 1994, 2006 and 2008, when waves resulted in huge gains for one party. The current political environment actually minimizes the chance of a near-term wave developing.”

“The problem for Republicans is that they aren't yet in the position--and won't be in one by November of next year--to run on a pure message of change, or on pent-up demand for change.”

“Waves are built on dissatisfaction and frustration, and there is little in national survey data that suggest most voters are upset with President Barack Obama's performance or the performance of his party.”
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