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  • Blaze
    Full Member Status

    • Jan 2009
    • 4371

    Transcript and sources: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=2594

    Though that is good. I have done enough corruption cases to know that in every organization that is rouge, there are always people that are being as noble as possible in the given circumstances.

    Moreover, one cannot discredit a whole organization that by nature is a law enforcement. There are certain types drawn toward these fields and they are not able to over-look corruption. Yes, there are also certain sorts that are drawn to the field due to ignoble qualities.

    I will not buy a fully corrupt system. And for example I give the officers of Russia whom placed their life and more on the line to record statements of witness. I will give for example information, which has come forward in concerning the media and entertainment industry. With that mention corruption is completely different than vice. Vice can be of fair trade. Corruption is not. A person of vice my be corrupt. A corrupt person might not have a vice( though improbable).

    There is no boggy man. There are people. Some people conspire. Some people conspire with no regard to humanity or persons.



    The same way that I journalese that legal action, documentation, presentation would provide for Palestine, where the U.N. needed to be embraced not shunned. I will clear the same here. The Law Enforcement breathern need not be discarded, instead LEOs that are in a struggle need to be assisted.


    Local, tribal, regional, national, continental, and international associates assist in culling corruption.
    "I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. Seuss
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    • Blaze
      Full Member Status

      • Jan 2009
      • 4371

      I do have to wonder sometimes why Anonymouse will not expose media.
      "I have heard there are troubles of more than one kind. - Some come from ahead and some come from behind. - But I've bought a big bat. I'm all ready you see. - Now my troubles are going to have troubles with me!" ~ Dr. Seuss
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      • ThatArtGuy
        Foot Soldier
        • Jan 2004
        • 672

        They're too busy being upset at Sony for protecting their intellectual property.
        I brought my pencil!!!

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        • Diamondjimi
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • May 2004
          • 12086

          Originally posted by Seshmeister
          That's not molten steel.
          So, what about this. Are these people off their fucking nut too? I don't think so...

          Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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          • Tob
            Roadie
            • Aug 2011
            • 120

            Originally posted by Tob
            Such above, Sesh', reveals thought, reflection, you have with your previous "spin-piece" that you presented. Then your "arguing" is, with truth, "false" with "misleading" - you have not answered one question I have presented, because you have been unable. You know beings made their "mistake" - your reflection with reviewing their "Federal Emergency Management Agency" cover.

            1.) "Federal Emergency Management Agency" cover, manual, scan, with date of "June 1999" - graphic depiction with "cross-hairs" from "gun-scope" aimed toward one "World Trade Center" tower

            2.) "William Cooper" - his information revealing "covert actions" with "finance" with "preemptive strikes" with "training" with "Saudi Arabian" beings

            3.) $5, $10, $20, $50, $100, "bills" that, when folding, reveal "sequence" of smoking towers - then "demolition" - graphic depiction

            These have been, in fact, from "U.S." force, "government" with "military" - we may read Chapter 6, with information that states, "Congressman Larry McDonald has revealed to Congress that various guerrilla and terrorist groups were being financed by the federal government."
            Blaze, this is, with truth, REAL evidence - straight from "U.S." force. Treasury-say, read-say, government-say - but "hear-say" thingy - no. Your writing "cabal" was correct, so many beings "programmed" with "U.S." media. Such evidence came BEFORE their "hit" was expressed.

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            • Jesus Christ
              Veteran
              • Jan 2004
              • 2434

              Verily I say unto all of you that no mortal has yet told the true story of what was done to thy country on that horrible day, or who was responsible for what. But We know. And those responsible will be held accountable in the Highest Court, even if they never stand trial on Earth.

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              • Diamondjimi
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • May 2004
                • 12086

                Amen, Jeebus!
                Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                • Guitar Shark
                  ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                  • Jan 2004
                  • 7579

                  Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                  It's all beyond retarded. I'm still waiting to hear what happened to all the passengers that didn't die crashing into the Pentagon.
                  Stop focusing on those pesky details!
                  ROTH ARMY MILITIA


                  Originally posted by EAT MY ASSHOLE
                  Sharky sometimes needs things spelled out for him in explicit, specific detail. I used to think it was a lawyer thing, but over time it became more and more evident that he's merely someone's idiot twin.

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                  • Diamondjimi
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • May 2004
                    • 12086

                    Originally posted by Seshmeister

                    The thermite idea is just utter crap anyway because it wouldn't work as a demolition material and you would need literally tons of it to melt steel supports.

                    And it makes no sense.
                    Tons? Not really. Slap a strip of that shit across a girder @ a 45 degree angle and watch the top half slide right off.
                    Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                    • Diamondjimi
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • May 2004
                      • 12086

                      Exactly!!!
                      Trolls take heed...LOG OUT & FUCK OFF!!!

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35755

                        Originally posted by Diamondjimi
                        Tons? Not really. Slap a strip of that shit across a girder @ a 45 degree angle and watch the top half slide right off.
                        That's simply not true.

                        Watch this video or shut up.

                        14 minutes - watch it.



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                        • Seshmeister
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Oct 2003
                          • 35755

                          Originally posted by Diamondjimi
                          So, what about this. Are these people off their fucking nut too? I don't think so...
                          Damn right they are. Steve Jones is a fucking whack job discredited by everyone repeatedly, a charlatan and a liar.

                          Steven E. Jones is a professor at Brigham Young University. He has created the paper which has created the ground swell around the 911 conspiracy theories. His paper was peer reviewed but not by a civil engineering journal. One would think a serious professor would get his paper peer reviewed by a scientific journal which specializes in the field they are writing the paper on.

                          But is Professor Jones qualified to create a paper which says the towers must have fallen due to explosives? He is a physics professor but what experience does Jones have in building collapse forensics? He has none. His other peer reviewed papers consist of cold fusion technology. He conducts research in nuclear fusion and solar energy. Nothing in his background would suggest he is qualified to write a civil engineering paper on the infinitely complex building collapse of the towers.

                          Brigham Young University doesn't want anything to do with the paper.

                          A few department chairmen at Jones' university have issued critical statements, though none of these has yet addressed any of the points which Jones made in his paper and at his presentation at BYU. Chairman of the BYU department of Civil and Environmental Engineering, Dr. Miller, is on record stating in an e-mail, "I think without exception, the structural engineering professors in our department are not in agreement with the claims made by Jones in his paper, and they don't think there is accuracy and validity to these claims".

                          The BYU physics department has also issued a statement: "The university is aware that Professor Steven Jones' hypotheses and interpretations of evidence regarding the collapse of World Trade Center buildings are being questioned by a number of scholars and practitioners, including many of BYU's own faculty members. Professor Jones' department and college administrators are not convinced that his analyses and hypotheses have been submitted to relevant scientific venues that would ensure rigorous technical peer review." The College of Engineering and Technology department has also added, "The structural engineering faculty in the Fulton College of Engineering and Technology do not support the hypotheses of Professor Jones."

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                          • Seshmeister
                            ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                            • Oct 2003
                            • 35755

                            You know one of the more depressing things about this 9-11 conspiracy shit is that it actually makes other attacks more likely.

                            No one embraces this garbage more than the people who are radicalising young muslims all over the world. They are fed this crap about thermite and WTC7 and rubbish about missiles and told that the US attacked itself as an excuse so that she could start a crusade against Islam.

                            These pricks with their straw dog videos are helping to create fundamentalists and the terrorists of the future just as sure as Bush, Rumsfeld and Cheney did with their stupidity after 9-11.

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                            • Tob
                              Roadie
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 120

                              Originally posted by Seshmeister
                              retarded
                              Your "Def Leppard" cd, with "cross-hairs" from "gun-scope" aimed toward "burning" building is "retarded" - you say? Why? Because you think so? Wrote so? Say so?

                              When you realize evidence direct from "U.S." force - occurring before physical "hit" within New York - then we realize where their minds were:

                              Their "bills" from "U.S. Treasury" with "smoking" towers - graphic depiction, "William Cooper" with information of "Saudi Arabian" beings receiving "training" for "preemptive strikes" with "finance" that is of "covert action" expressed, "Federal Emergency Management Agency" cover depicting "military" expression of "strike" within New York, "World Trade Center" towers.. understanding this, with reviewing media reflecting the same, we REALIZE what occurred.

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                              • Dr. Love
                                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 7833

                                what I hear when people theorize about 9/11:



                                We’ve all heard the “official conspiracy theory” of the Death Star attack. We all know about Luke Skywalker and his ragtag bunch of rebels, how they mounted a foolhardy attack on the most powerful, well-defended battle station ever built. And we’ve all seen the video over, and over, and over, of the one-in-a-million shot that resulted in a massive chain reaction that not just damaged, but completely obliterated that massive technological wonder.

                                Like many, I was fed this story when I was growing up. But as I watched the video, I began to realize that all was not as it seemed. And the more I questioned the official story, the deeper into the rabbit hole I went.

                                Presented here are some of the results of my soul-searching regarding this painful event. Like many citizens, I have many questions that I would like answered: was the mighty Imperial government really too incompetent to prevent a handful of untrained nerf-herders from destroying one of their most prized assets? Or are they hiding something from us? Who was really behind the attack? Why did they want the Death Star destroyed? No matter what the answers, we have a problem.

                                Below is a summary of my book, Uncomfortable Questions: An Analysis of the Death Star Attack, which presents compelling evidence that we all may be the victims of a fraud of immense proportions.

                                Uncomfortable Questions about the Death Star Attack


                                1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the defenses to ward off several fleets of battle ships?


                                The above photos show Death Star defenses. Did they stand down?

                                2) Why did Grand Moff Tarkin refuse to deploy the station’s large fleet of TIE Fighters until it was too late? Was he acting on orders from somebody to not shoot down the rebel attack force? If so, who, and why?

                                3) Why was the rebel pilot who supposedly destroyed the Death Star reported to be on the Death Star days, maybe hours, prior to its destruction? Why was he allowed to escape, and why were several individuals dressed in Stormtrooper uniforms seen helping him?

                                4) Why has there not been an investigation into allegations that Darth Vader, the second-ranking member of the Imperial Government, is in fact the father of the pilot who allegedly destroyed the Death Star?


                                Why didn't he arrest this rebel when he had the chance?

                                5) Why did Lord Vader decide to break all protocols and personally pilot a lightly armored TIE Fighter? Conveniently, this placed Lord Vader outside of the Death Star when it was destroyed, where he was also conveniently able to escape from a large-sized rebel fleet that had just routed the Imperial forces. Why would Lord Vader, one of the highest ranking members of the Imperial Government, suddenly decide to fly away from the Death Star in the middle of a battle? Did he know something that the rest of the Imperial Navy didn’t?

                                In the video of the Death Star’s destruction, Lord Vader clearly exclaims “I have you now” then fires two shots. Those shots never impact — anywhere. Were they merely “added” to the “official” video after the event to make it appear that Lord Vader had at least attempted to fight off his alleged son?


                                Onboard Camera shows the lone rebel in Vader's sights but doesn't pull the trigger.


                                6) Nerf-Herders defy the laws of physics? How could any pilot shoot a missile into a 2 meter-wide exhaust port, let alone a pilot with no formal training, whose only claim to fame was his ability to “bullseye womprats” on Tatooine? This shot, according to one pilot, would be “impossible, even for a computer.” Yet, according to additional evidence, the pilot who allegedly fired the missile turned off his targeting computer when he was supposedly firing the shot that destroyed the Death Star. How did the missile make a right angle turn after entering the exhaust port? How could a missile shot in the vacuum of space–that would tend to keep going in the same direction as it was released, according to the laws of physics–be *sucked* into an *exhaust* pipe? "Exhaust" means to exhale or blow out... Wouldn’t the missiles have been blown awry of their target rather than sucked in? If it had been an intake pipe, then the “bending” path of the missiles could be plausible. Why have these discrepancies never been investigated, let alone explained?

                                Actual tactical computer recording.




                                The Magic Missile Theory

                                7) Why has their been no investigation into evidence that the droids who provided the rebels with the Death Star plans were once owned by none other than Lord Vader himself, and were found, conveniently, by the pilot who destroyed the Death Star, and who is also believed to be Lord Vader’s son? Evidence also shows that the droids were brought to one Ben Kenobi, who, records indicate, was Darth Vader’s teacher many years earlier! Are all these personal connections between the conspirators and a key figure in the Imperial government supposed to be coincidences?

                                8) How could a single missile destroy a battle station the size of a moon? No records, anywhere, show that any battle station or capital ship has ever been destroyed by a single missile. Furthermore, analysis of the tape of the last moments of the Death Star show numerous small explosions along its surface, prior to it exploding completely! Why does all evidence indicate that strategically placed explosives, not a single missile, is what destroyed the Death Star?



                                How could this small missile create an explosion this big?


                                9) Prior to the destruction of the Death Star a smuggler named Captain Solo was reportedly given a large sum of money. At a crucial point in the battle, Captain Solo had an unobstructed shot on his choice of the fighters pursuing Skywalker, yet Solo did not take advantage of this opportunity to kill Darth Vader. Although Vader was in the process of firing upon Skywalker’s X-wing, Solo attacked the defensive fighter instead. In the aftermath, Vader escaped, while Solo still had crates of money in his cargo hold. Captain Solo eventually made his way to the Bespin system, where he was seen dining with none other than Vader, who was reportedly obsessed with obtaining Captain Solo’s ship (and the money contained therein). Solo’s ship was then seen flying into the super-structure of the second Death Star, destroying it just after Vader was able to get out (he was seen leaving a shuttle piloted by none other than Luke Skywalker). Yet through this whole sequence of events, the money was never seen removed from Solo’s ship. Was it used to bribe Darth Vader, who (allegedly) assassinated Palpatine? Did anyone other than Vader and Skywalker actually see Emperor Palpatine die?

                                10 ) During pilot debriefing we leaned that Obi Wan was the one who told Luke to turn off his targeting computer. He said he was told by Obi Wan to "Let go" and "Trust me". This is the same Obi Wan who was, according to the official story, killed after sabotaging the Death Star by none other than Darth Vader BEFORE speaking to Luke. His convenient death places him inside the Death Star just before the explosions on the surface occur. By faking his death Vader would have given Obi Wan time to plant explosives. The only evidence of his death is his Jedi robe on surveillance cameras. And even that can't be found because they decided to conveniently let the evidence burn in the planet atmosphere. Also, why are there reports from Endor that Lord Vader, Obi Wan and Yoda were seen together AFTER their deaths? And who other than the Empire has the capacity to fake their deaths?

                                11) Lord Vader executed an officer for incompetence by allowing the rebels to escape. He then orders another officer to disable the Millennium Falcon's hyper drive. The rebels once again escape using the disabled hyper drive. Why was the officer responsible for caring out Lord Vader's order to disable the hyper drive not executed? Why was he in fact given NO disciplinary action what so ever? Why did Lord Vader only disable the hyper drive? If Lord Vader didn't want the rebels to escape, why didn't he disable the ship entirely?

                                12) Why did the captain of the Imperial Stardestroyer not fire upon the lifepod with the droids carrying Death Star plans? The "official story" says he didn't find the any signs of life. He said "Hold your fire. There are no life forms. It must have been short-circuited." Why would he be looking for life when it was electronic plans he should have been looking for. Why did he jump to the conclusion it was "short-circuited". Is he a lifepod engineer?

                                How can all this be just incompetence and coincidence? IMPOSSIBLE!

                                The most important question of all is why would a shadowy group in the Empire want to destroy such a technological wonder? Is it an excuse to invade Hoth and steal their oil; a planet which didn’t have anything to do with the attacks. Or is it to take away your religious freedoms to practice the dark side of the force? As incredible as this sounds it makes more sense than the official story.


                                The only way we will ever get answers to these and other troubling questions is by voting into the office those who will make an investigation into the official story a priority.
                                I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

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