ObamaCare at Supreme Court hearing

[Nitro Express]

I can remember when people had good insurance and they would abuse it. They would go to the doctor for unnecessary stuff because the policy covered it. After too many people abuse the policy it covers less and you pay more. But now the pricing is obscene. It's monopoly pricing and it's high because something isn't being regulated correctly. We don't need beurocrats playing doctor but something needs to be done about the out of control pricing. That goes for education as well. As Elvis said, the problem is the government no longer serves the people. It serves the corporations and belt way insiders are making more money than ever. Wall Street and Washington have merged and both are making more money than ever while the rest of the nation starves. Unless your state has oil, your state is probably in trouble.

[sadaist]

Let me get this info out there about pretty much every well known auto insurance company.

For every $1 the take in from premiums.....they pay out $1.03 in claims.

Yep, that's right. They pay out more in claims than they take in from premiums. But they make their money from investments, properties, & other things. Plus they pay TONS of taxes and TONS of employee salaries. So next time you open that bill after you get a speeding ticket, just remember that you aren't getting screwed even though it feels like it.

[Jagermeister]

GAWD. I hate to bump this thread but I can't help it.

McConnell tells Obama to 'back off' over court
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell blasted President Obama on Thursday, telling him to "back off" from comments earlier this week where he appeared to question the constitutional powers of the Supreme Court and the possibility that it could overturn his health care law.

"The president crossed a dangerous line this week," the Kentucky Republican said to the Lexington Rotary Club, "and anyone who cares about liberty needs to call him out on it. The independence of the court must be defended."

On Monday, Mr. Obama suggested it would be "activist" and an "unprecedented, extraordinary step" for the nine "unelected" justices to overturn the law, prompting outcries from leading Republicans and many legal scholars that he was trying to intimidate the court.

The president later narrowed his comments, saying the court hasn't overturned economic regulation like the Affordable Care Act since the New Deal era. Saying the court's decision must be respected, Mr. Obama added that he believed the justices take their responsibilities "very seriously."

But that didn't stop Mr. McConnell from accusing Mr. Obama of trying to undermine the court.

"Regardless of how the justices decide this case, they're answerable, above all, to the Constitution they swore to uphold," he said. "The fact that this president does not appear to feel similarly constrained to respect their independence doesn't change that one bit.

"So respectfully, I would suggest the president back off."

The Department of Justice is also expected to submit a three-page explanation later in day clarifying whether it believes the court can overturn laws passed by Congress, responding to the order of a federal judge in Texas who said Mr. Obama's comments cast his beliefs on that in doubt.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/blog/inside-politics/2012/apr/5/mcconnell-tells-obama-back-over-court/

[Jagermeister]

Does Obama even understand how the fucking United States Government works? Someone give that man a Constitution.
Holder says court power to review laws 'beyond dispute'

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1rBtYzCmv


Attorney General Eric Holder assured a federal appeals court Thursday that the Obama administration believes judges have the authority to overturn federal laws, after President Obama's comments earlier this week raised concerns from the bench about his view of judicial power.

Holder, in a three-page letter to the 5th Circuit Court of Appeals, said "the power of the courts to review the constitutionality of legislation is beyond dispute," though it should only be exercised in "appropriate cases." He also claimed laws passed by Congress are "presumptively constitutional."

Related Interactive

Justice Department letter to 5th Circuit Court of Appeals


Attorney General Eric Holder sent a letter Thursday to a federal appeals court explaining the administration's position on judicial powers following President Obama's comments about the health care law case.

Related Video

President Obama playing politics with the Supreme Court?

Peter Johnson, Jr. weighs in

The response capped an unusual dispute between the co-equal branches of government, one which has since reverberated on the campaign trail and beyond.

Obama originally said Monday it would be "unprecedented" for the Supreme Court to overturn the federal health care overhaul, following its three-day review of the law last week. Administration officials later insisted that the president was not making a broad statement -- and was rather referring only to cases pertaining to the Commerce Clause and dealing with matters of the national economy.

The comments, though, caught the attention of a three-judge panel on the 5th Circuit, as Judge Jerry Smith paused during a hearing Tuesday to chide the administration for what he said was being perceived as a "challenge" to judicial authority.

"That has troubled a number of people who have read it as somehow a challenge to the federal courts or to their authority," Smith said. "And that's not a small matter."

Smith, part of a panel of all Republican appointees, then ordered an explanation by Thursday of no fewer than three pages.

Holder provided the single-spaced, three-page letter by the deadline. In it, he backed up the president's remarks. While saying the court has the right to review laws, he cited prior opinions that acts of Congress are "presumptively constitutional" and said the executive branch has "often urged courts to respect the legislative judgments of Congress."

He wrote that the "principles of deference are fully applicable when Congress legislates in the commercial sphere," calling Obama's comments "fully consistent" with the principles in the letter.

The fallout from the president's comments, though, is likely to drag on, with the presidential general election campaign on the horizon -- and a Supreme Court decision likely to land in the middle of it. Senate Republican Leader Mitch McConnell, in prepared remarks for a speech Thursday afternoon, told Obama to "back off" and "let the court do its work."

Holder already previewed what his response would be on Wednesday, saying the courts have "final say."

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney has also argued that there's no dispute from the administration regarding the courts' authority to strike down laws. He says the president was instead referring specifically to the traditional deference the court has shown Congress when it comes to laws addressing challenges to the economy -- such as health care.

"What he did was make an unremarkable observation about 80 years of Supreme Court history," Carney said Wednesday.

House Speaker John Boehner's office later cited cases over the past two decades where the Supreme Court overturned federal laws because they exceeded limitations under the Commerce Clause -- which is at the heart of the health care case.

An administration official, though, noted that those cases did not deal with major economic regulation as the health care law does.

Though Carney says the president did not misspeak when he discussed the case on Monday, Obama was not quite so specific.

"I'm confident that the Supreme Court will not take what would be an unprecedented, extraordinary step of overturning a law that was passed by a strong majority of a democratically elected Congress," Obama said on Monday. "And I'd just remind conservative commentators that for years what we've heard is the biggest problem on the bench was judicial activism or a lack of judicial restraint, that an unelected group of people would somehow overturn a duly constituted and passed law. Well, this is a good example. And I'm pretty confident that this court will recognize that and not take that step."

Obama reiterated his stance on Tuesday, saying the court has traditionally shown "deference" to Congress and that "the burden is on those who would overturn a law like this."



Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012...#ixzz1rBtyU5UU

[jhale667]

Anyone else notice the irony of the fact that all you heard the GOP candidates talking about (besides contraception) was "judicial activism", then the minute Obama says something they're all like HOW DARE HE??? Hypocrites.

[Jagermeister]

Anyone else notice the irony of the fact that all you heard the GOP candidates talking about (besides contraception) was "judicial activism", then the minute Obama says something they're all like HOW DARE HE??? Hypocrites.

Come on jhale. You didn't hear anything the GOP candidates said.

[jhale667]

Come on jhale. You didn't hear anything the GOP candidates said.

Quite the contrary, oh mental midget. Gotta keep tabs on the crazies...

Sent from my BlackBerry 9800 using Tapatalk

[Nitro Express]

If you gave Obama a copy of the US Constitution he would wipe his ass with it.

[ELVIS]

[jhale667]

Puh-leez.

If you gave Obama a copy of the US Constitution he would wipe his ass with it.

"It's just a goddamn piece of paper" after all...

[ELVIS]

At least you smug liberals don't have a constitution fetish, eh jfail ??

[jhale667]

At least you smug liberals don't have a constitution fetish, eh jfail ??

Oh, eat a ****, loser... conservatard arrogance (and hypocrisy) is LIMITLESS. As you demonstrate daily.

[ELVIS]

You need a chill pill...

[Nitro Express]

You need a chill pill...

Does Obamacare provide that?

[Nitro Express]

"It's just a goddamn piece of paper" after all...

You are one sad ignorant puppy.