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  • ashstralia
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Feb 2004
    • 6566

    That's funny, mo chook.

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    • motherchicken
      Registered User
      • Nov 2009
      • 1017

      If it's indeed true that Carter gave the Iranians billions of dollars (even if it was their money) to release the hostages who's to say that's the real reason and not because they feared Reagan? Why didn't they take the money and release the hostages before that? I know what Ford's gonna say. The BCE.

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      • motherchicken
        Registered User
        • Nov 2009
        • 1017

        Originally posted by ashstralia
        That's funny, mo chook.
        Wa do
        Go la gi ni ge su na.
        Last edited by motherchicken; 09-09-2012, 05:29 AM. Reason: The firt onewas too inside.

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        • Seshmeister
          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

          • Oct 2003
          • 35755

          Originally posted by motherchicken
          Wikipedia? Are you fucking kidding me? Any other time and you'd be saying wikipedia is an unreliable source.
          On Wiki the little number after a paragraph points to the original source listed at the bottom.

          In this case it is http://www.whha.org/whha_classroom/c...ns-carter.html which is a pretty good source.

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          • motherchicken
            Registered User
            • Nov 2009
            • 1017

            Originally posted by Seshmeister
            On Wiki the little number after a paragraph points to the original source listed at the bottom.

            In this case it is http://www.whha.org/whha_classroom/c...ns-carter.html which is a pretty good source.
            Read post #227

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            • jacksmar
              Full Member Status

              • Feb 2004
              • 3533

              Elvis, I was pointing out that the Clinton admin started the fiscal problems and Bush 43 tried to get a handle on what was happening but Bush 43's Treasury Dept was getting called racists for pointing out the fact that the loans never should have been financed to people that couldn't afford them. The Repub's were just as guilty because they thought home ownership would lead to fiscal and financial responsibility.

              It's funny how this thread has veered. Clinton was and is an impeached liar. Just like Nixon. Clinton gets a pass somehow. He started the housing collapse. There was never a surplus. Public debt went down and intergovernmental holdings went up while borrowing from Social Security.



              The surplus is a LIE. Clinton is a liar.
              A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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              • BigBadBrian
                TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                • Jan 2004
                • 10625

                Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                It would also be true then that you cannot exclusively blame the President, correct?
                Not exclusively, though the POTUS has to sign the Bill into Law. Let's see what Barry has signed recently.

                Oh that's right, it's been over three years since we had a Budget.

                “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                • Va Beach VH Fan
                  ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                  • Dec 2003
                  • 17913

                  Originally posted by ELVIS
                  Unless it's Bush...
                  Yeah, I guess you're right....

                  I keed, I keed....
                  Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                  "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                  "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                  • Va Beach VH Fan
                    ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                    • Dec 2003
                    • 17913

                    Originally posted by FORD
                    I never have.

                    I blame Barry for his weak ass cabinet choices.

                    I blame the false "Democrats" in the Senate and the House for the rest.
                    Didn't mean YOU....
                    Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                    "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                    "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                    • BigBadBrian
                      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 10625

                      Originally posted by hambon4lif
                      Not when he's gone up against THEE most obstructive Congress that we've ever seen in our lifetime.

                      (Please don't send this post to John Boner...he's so loaded up on estrogen that he just waits for reasons to cry...the typical 3-Martini-lunch drunk)
                      It's always funny when Democrats whine about obstructionism. You expect Congress to be Obama's Rubber stamp and "Yes-Man?"
                      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                      • Va Beach VH Fan
                        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                        • Dec 2003
                        • 17913

                        Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                        Not exclusively, though the POTUS has to sign the Bill into Law. Let's see what Barry has signed recently.

                        Oh that's right, it's been over three years since we had a Budget.
                        How could it possibly be the POTUS' fault for Congress' inability to negotiate a budget, even ignoring the obstruction?
                        Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                        "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                        "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                        • BigBadBrian
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10625

                          Originally posted by DavidLeeNatra
                          for me it's strange to see how guys like Brian can just ignore simple facts and don't know anything about the history of their own country. as I said before, I don't agree with elvis, but I can at least dicuss with him...but you can't argue stupidity...
                          I posted facts, you posted nonsense. You're not here for rightful debate. You're here just to have people tell you you're right, which you never are. Now, go back to discussing the conspiracy theories with others on this board that caters to that crap.
                          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                          • BigBadBrian
                            TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 10625

                            Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
                            How could it possibly be the POTUS' fault for Congress' inability to negotiate a budget, even ignoring the obstruction?
                            Congress has sent him a Budget every year e's been in office. He won't sign. He won't play ball with Congress, which even Clinton had to do (The Republican controlled jerked his ass back to reality on some of his proposed spending).

                            Even the Democrats voted against Barry's latest Budget proposal.
                            “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                            • DavidLeeNatra
                              TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 10715

                              Originally posted by BigBadBrian
                              I posted facts, you posted nonsense. You're not here for rightful debate. You're here just to have people tell you you're right, which you never are. Now, go back to discussing the conspiracy theories with others on this board that caters to that crap.
                              no, when I posted facts you called me Goebbels. that was your way to "debate", which is kind of typical for ignorant people. and as I said, ignorance is the mother of stupidity. I wonder if you have ever read a book about your country. do you even know how your system works?

                              the national debt under Reagan and the financial crisis under the W. Busch administration are no conspiracy theories except for those who simply ignore the facts. you never posted any. just some stupid attempts to insult me with that boring-to-death-nazi-schitck...

                              try and google "reaganomics". it's not that complicated...if it is, click the following link: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=reaganomics
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                              • jacksmar
                                Full Member Status

                                • Feb 2004
                                • 3533

                                natra, if you're googling anything you won't get the truth. If you wants facts to support your position by all means google. Don't rely on c-span archives or on newspapers.

                                Bush 41 and Clinton both got the benefit of the Reagan policies in the out years. That's how good he was as President. It only took 20 years to screw up Reagan. Reagan is even at odds with the Tea Party.

                                Which means he was doing something right.

                                A NATION OF COWARDS - Jeffrey R. Snyder

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