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  • motherchicken
    Registered User
    • Nov 2009
    • 1017

    Originally posted by DONNIEP
    Saudi Arabia is gonna be the death of us.
    I've heard the same about Isreal.

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    • FORD
      ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

      • Jan 2004
      • 59648

      Originally posted by motherchicken
      I've heard the same about Isreal.
      Well, if NuttyYahoo drags us into World War III over his delusional paranoia about Iran, that could well be the case.
      Eat Us And Smile

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      "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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      • Va Beach VH Fan
        ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
        • Dec 2003
        • 17913

        Originally posted by ELVIS
        I'm not even sure about that...
        Absolutely no doubt in my mind....
        Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

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        • motherchicken
          Registered User
          • Nov 2009
          • 1017

          Originally posted by FORD
          Well, if NuttyYahoo drags us into World War III over his delusional paranoia about Iran, that could well be the case.
          I fully believe there are entities out there that are trying to get us involved in some bullshit in Iran or Korea. I'll give the dude in office mucho credit for not buying into it. That alone gives me hope we'll survive 4 more from the guy.

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59648

            Originally posted by motherchicken
            I fully believe there are entities out there that are trying to get us involved in some bullshit in Iran or Korea. I'll give the dude in office mucho credit for not buying into it. That alone gives me hope we'll survive 4 more from the guy.
            Well, as Mike Malloy just said, if Mittens is in office, he'll have an invasion of Iran going before Opie Roberts can take his robe off after swearing him in. And that's assuming Opie gets the oath right this time.

            Between PNAC writing his foreign policy and Chinese mob launderer Sheldon Adelson bankrolling him, there's no question that Governor Etch a Sketch is 100% backed by the Likud Zionfascists and their desire to start World War III.
            Eat Us And Smile

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            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • fourthcoming

              Can you really blame Israel for being paranoid? They are constantly under threat......and completely isolated. I'm not saying they are blameless, but damn.....their an island in an ocean of enemies.

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              • ELVIS
                Banned
                • Dec 2003
                • 44120

                Originally posted by Dr. Love
                ELVIS and FORD would never have agreed this often in the old days.

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                • ZahZoo
                  ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                  • Jan 2004
                  • 9173

                  Originally posted by motherchicken
                  I just consider the source. You're incapable of civil debate.
                  LMAO... telling a lawyer they are incapable of debate is like telling a fish it can't swim.
                  "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                  • Nickdfresh
                    SUPER MODERATOR

                    • Oct 2004
                    • 49567

                    Originally posted by FORD
                    If you believe the official BCE steaming pile of bullshit "official" story (and apparently you do) then 15 of those 19 cave dwelling imbeciles were Saudi Arabians, as was the guy they took orders from. The other 4 were from Yemen and Egypt (I think?) NONE were from Afghanistan.

                    So if you're looking for a "justified" war, why didn't you tell Chimpy to invade Saudi Arabia? Not that he would have, of course, given the relationship between the BCE and the House of Saud.
                    They weren't "cave dwellers," they studied engineering and were in flight schools...

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                    • Nickdfresh
                      SUPER MODERATOR

                      • Oct 2004
                      • 49567

                      Originally posted by fourthcoming
                      Can you really blame Israel for being paranoid? They are constantly under threat......and completely isolated. I'm not saying they are blameless, but damn.....their an island in an ocean of enemies.
                      Geez, poor Israel, with the only army capable of mass armored maneuver, an air force that dominates the Middle East, and oh yeah--an arsenal of nuclear weapons they're so bent on preventing Iran from getting....

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                      • Nitro Express
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Aug 2004
                        • 32942

                        Originally posted by fourthcoming
                        Can you really blame Israel for being paranoid? They are constantly under threat......and completely isolated. I'm not saying they are blameless, but damn.....their an island in an ocean of enemies.
                        Gee. Is that why my girlfriend over there and others in the reserve were required by law to always pack a loaded machine gun? You go nowhere without it and if you have to be reissued one because you lost it, you just got another mandatory two years of military service.

                        To understand the place you have to go there. There is always a feeling in the air,"Who's our enemy today?" They live their lives, they do amazing things, but you have constant threat hovering in the air over you.
                        No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                        • fourthcoming

                          Jeezuz....lol....no offense, but some of you people are delusional with Liberal beliefs....and that's not coming from a right wing conservative jackoff. Again, do you blame israel for having all that? Oh....poor Iran.....leave them alone.....they're innocent.....um hello.....it's IRAN......granted we fucked up the whole scenario in Iran years ago which paved the way for fundamentalism and good old Ronnie played both sides of the fence with them a million times over. I don't know....maybe I'm a little biased having seen one of my little league teammates when I was a kid break down and cry when he told me how his Marine brother was killed during the hostage crisis. No shit....Israel is definitely not an innocent, can do no wrong entity but if it were you and I living there you damn well better believe we would want our government to protect us.

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                          • fourthcoming

                            Just think if the entire Middle east were Atheists.........

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                            • Nitro Express
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Aug 2004
                              • 32942

                              Originally posted by Nickdfresh
                              They weren't "cave dwellers," they studied engineering and were in flight schools...
                              To understand a situation you have to understand why the people involved are the way they are and what motivates them to do what they do. I read a book written by a guy who worked for French intelligence who was undercover in the Afghanistan training camps. This guy grew up in Morocco and lived with relatives in Europe. He said he lived in two worlds. The poverty and lack of freedom in Morocco and the freedom and western pleasures of Europe. He said he never fit in while in Europe. He got involved in some terrorist organizations because he wanted to impress his older muslim peers. Then they stole his money and he got pissed and ratted them out to French intelligence. He then got recruted to be a mole and infiltrated the camps.

                              He said in the Afghanistan camps he felt closer to his peers than ever. He said the camp leaders are so good at taking that feeling of not fitting in and making bonds with your fellow buddies. He said occasionally rich saudi nationals would come to the camps and fire some guns and play with the explosives then leave. He said most the money funding them was from Saudi Arabia but the saudis were spoiled and weak. Who do the grunt work were muslims from other countries.

                              He said his cover was so deep they pretty much even had him brainwashed. Then he learned it was just a bunch of rich fucks in Saudi Arabia using them as cannon fodder. He said everyone wants some revenge. The Chechnayans want revenge against the Russians ect... The lie is we will train you to get that revenge against those you hate but then at the end of the day, you go where you are told or you are threatened with death. He said when he saw there was no honor it snapped him out of his brainwashed mind.

                              In short everyone was using this guy. The French the terrorists sponsors. He said at the end of the day, the French paid better and it was really nice to stay at the Ritz Carlton and drink champaign and eat five star meals in Istanbul all paid for by the French after living in poverty and filth in the training camps.

                              In short, money and treating people better often is the turning point. A lot of these young muslims join terrorist groups to belong to a group that shows them some attention. It's really no different than why kids here join street gangs. They want to be someone important and have the brotherhood. Of course these groups are full of people who just feel they don't fit in normal society.
                              Last edited by Nitro Express; 09-14-2012, 11:42 AM.
                              No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                              • Seshmeister
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Oct 2003
                                • 35755

                                Originally posted by fourthcoming
                                Just think if the entire Middle east were Atheists.........
                                The two least religious countries in the region were probably Iran and Iraq and that didn't work out too well.

                                Religion is a major weapon in the armory but the root cause is oil and our dependence on it. Any talk about our support of countries being based in any way ethically or about freedom or democracy or any of that shit is blatantly proved to be a crock by the continued alliance with Saudi Arabia and Israel, two of the worst regimes in the area.

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