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Another one of those classic genius posts, sure to generate responses. You log on the next day to see what your witty gem has produced to find no one gets it and 2 knotheads want to stick their dicks in it... Well played, sir!! -
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How NRA Propagandists & Their GOP Shills Try To Control Information & Stifle Debate
January 17, 2013 7:36 PM
NRA, Congress stymied CDC gun research budget
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(CBS News) On Monday, President Obama ordered the Centers for Disease Control to begin research on the causes of gun violence. That was something that Congress specifically prevented the CDC from doing.
"There is absolutely no question. These are preventable deaths," said Dr. Mark Rosenberg, who used to oversee research into gun violence and prevention at the Centers for Disease Control.
In 1996, the NRA successfully lobbied Congress to put this restriction into the CDC's budget: "None of the funds made available ... may be used to advocate or promote gun control."
"These were shots fired across the bow," said Rosenberg, "and they the terrorized people at the CDC. And they terrorized researchers who said, 'Whoa, this is scary. I don't want my funding jeopardized.'"
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The NRA was infuriated with a 1993 study sponsored by the CDC that concluded having a gun at home offered little protection, but it increased almost three-fold the risk of one family member shooting another.
CDC funding into gun violence research has plummeted 96 percent since 1996, to just $100,000 of last year's $5.6 billion CDC budget.
Asked if gun violence a legitimate public health issue Bob Barr, a former Georgia congressman who sits on the board of the NRA, responded, "Absolutely not."
Barr added: "The issue of firearms violence is handled and ought to be handled as a law enforcement matter. We don't need government involved in this. It is all about the big C: control."
The next step is up to Congress whether to approve President Obama's request for $10 million to study this issue of gun violence.
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Your comment is a pretty big "assumption", or rather a strawman one.
However, when a "Bushmaster" is repeatedly tied to massacres and murders, there might be a pattern developing. As in three major recent shootings and of course the magically appearing one used by the D.C. cunt-Sniper..
No, an entire class of weapons based on crimes since WWII. The NRA has just managed to minimize and deflect debate preventing a meaningful "curbing" of crime...Of course not , but are we trying to enact real meaningful change or only curb crime stemming from one specific weapon?
It's so obviously a Political move. do you not see that?
That's fine, then the honest, hardworking, law-abiding owners can register them...something can be done, but there are millions of these fucking rifles out there yet they are hardly ever used in the commission of a crime.
We need to focus on issues instead of scapegoating on specific weapon and the people who legally own them.Comment
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Poor Nick - can't find a suitable reply from Wiki?Comment
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No, not an entire class, Different brands, all making essentially the same rifle (AR-15) I couldn't get a real machine gun even if I wanted to and I can't even get an AR without at least a Pistol permit to show that I have had some training.No, an entire class of weapons based on crimes since WWII. The NRA has just managed to minimize and deflect debate preventing a meaningful "curbing" of crime...
You should have to earn a certificate to be allowed to operate one of these things. You should have stringent background checks before you can own one. You should have a waiting period before you can take delivery. These should be universal.
As far as the NRA goes, they are a political group. It's their job to be unreasonable assholes; hence the term "political"
There you go again, a subtle insinuation that the "honest, hard working, law abiding owners" would not abide by the law.That's fine, then the honest, hardworking, law-abiding owners can register them...Comment
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Good!
The NRA started out as a sportsmens' club concerned mainly with training and safety. They only transitioned to Babylonian whores in the 70's I think...You should have to earn a certificate to be allowed to operate one of these things. You should have stringent background checks before you can own one. You should have a waiting period before you can take delivery. These should be universal.
As far as the NRA goes, they are a political group. It's their job to be unreasonable assholes; hence the term "political"
You're interpretation is not my subtle insinuation. If they're law abiding owners, wouldn't that necessitate they follow a law?There you go again, a subtle insinuation that the "honest, hard working, law abiding owners" would not abide by the law.Comment
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The biggest misconception about the NRA by the right wing is the belief that they represent the best interests of gun owners.
They do not. They represent gun manufacturers. Wayne LaPierre doesn't really give a shit if the "Kenyan socialist Muslim" takes your guns... as long as you buy more guns to replace them.Eat Us And Smile
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"If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992Comment
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OK. so what's the problem?
Indeed. and our armed forces started out as a means of protecting our nation from outside aggression and now look at where we are. Imperial World PoliceThe NRA started out as a sportsmens' club concerned mainly with training and safety. They only transitioned to Babylonian whores in the 70's I think...
Of course, again, further restriction of the "good guys" does nothing about the "bad guys"
You're interpretation is not my subtle insinuation. If they're law abiding owners, wouldn't that necessitate they follow a law?Comment
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That that isn't the case in every state. Virgina, you just need a driver's license and you can walk out with an armory...
Um, bad guys use strawpurchasers, then the NRA and their Republican fuckwits attack the ATF to effectively prevent them from actually "enforcing the laws on the books" and promote politics over public safety....Indeed. and our armed forces started out as a means of protecting our nation from outside aggression and now look at where we are. Imperial World Police
Of course, again, further restriction of the "good guys" does nothing about the "bad guys"Comment
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That's obviously wrong. Common sense tells you that but It does make living in VA sound more fun.
How many weapons can a straw purchaser purchase at a time and from where do they purchase them?
Um, bad guys use strawpurchasers, then the NRA and their Republican fuckwits attack the ATF to effectively prevent them from actually "enforcing the laws on the books" and promote politics over public safety....
It seems like it would be pretty easy to detect an individual buying tons of iron. The background checks should catch thatLast edited by lesfunk; 01-18-2013, 05:59 PM.Comment
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