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Oh my! FORD has turned into Alex Jones.
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It is very true. Big Dope Brian was a "squid" Navy guy, and probably had very limited experience with long weapons in his time in as the typical seamen probably received little training on M-14 or M-16's back then.
But I was not only told to rarely use full-auto (or cyclic), I was actually given a bi-pod to put on the end of my horrid training M-16A1 and told to fire at nearby targets on full auto to show how futile it is trying to hit anything unless it's right in front of you. That's why the U.S. Army and Marines (mistakenly) went to three-round-burst on the M-16A2, in order to prevent idiots from shooting off all their ammo and overheating their rifles. The only place for full auto is for clearing rooms and houses, or for when you're pretty much dead and caught in an ambush and just "praying and spraying" in the general direction of the enemy...Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-18-2013, 04:08 PM.Comment
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Both weapons were based on studies and combat experience showing that getting the most lead out at close ranges was the biggest factor in winning firefights. There are also numerous studies showing that the typical soldier in combat conditions generally cannot hit much beyond 200 meters realistically. So having beautiful or over-designed battle rifles that fire hunting style cartridges to ranges out to 800m like the M-14/FAL/G3 are superfluous (except in roles as scoped "designated marksmen" weapons), and they were heavier and reduced the number of bullets an infantryman can carry. They also have a lot of recoil and are harder to get back on target than small caliber (AR-15/AK-74) and reduced cartridge weapons (AK-47) are...
That's why U.S. Army infantry carry the M-4A1 (full auto) assault rifle/carbine now, after experiences in Iraq. It's almost identical to the Bushmaster. That's what an "assault rifle/weapon" is. A rifle with military application that is simple to shoot, and is more effective and accurate at near and medium ranges. That's what the dickheads at the NRA and their lackeys like BBB refuse to acknowledge, that these weapons need to be controlled like machine-guns have since 1934...Last edited by Nickdfresh; 01-18-2013, 03:45 PM.Comment
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That's all well and good but you're not mentioning that these weapons are simply NOT used in 99.4% of all gun related crime. That's the issue, not whether we the people deserve to have a powerful semi automatic rifle at our disposal.Comment
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MK ULTRA was limited CIA operation at best. Despite all the conspiracy shit that surrounds I don't believe its roots were that deep. So a couple of post Nazi scientist experimented with unsuspecting servicemen with LSD and electrodes on their testicles until those higher up thought nothing more of it than warped sadistic bullshit. Bush (well, all of them) was born into a family of corruption and spoon fed propaganda until he believed he was above the law and lost all his marbles on the way. The man was nautally senile by the age of 20. Shame that fuck didn't croak from pneumonia when there was a chance.Comment
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That ignores the fact that those who have them mean business and can outgun first responder cops. And when violent gangs begin to become well funded, things happen like they do in Mexico where cartels are arming themselves through U.S. gun store strawpurchases...
Um, should they have ignored the story of a deranged fuckwit carrying an assault/happy/silly gun into a school and murdering two dozen people? There are stories on gun crime all the time, especially when the violence spikes as it periodically does here. In 1991, my hometown was featured in the Washington Post in an article of how a sleepy suburb of Buffalo saw its gun crime skyrocket by several thousand percent. It's since declined back down to almost nothing, but it was interesting nonetheless...The media loved the sensational crazy white guy with a Rambo gun stories so much that we never hear about the hundreds of Black kids getting shot by handguns in the inner cites everyday. Not to mention that our Presidents own city of Chicago has pretty much become murder capital of the USA. I guess their stories don't carry the political weight of those lily white little rural communities that get the public really pissed off.
We haven't really tried to curb gun crime in this country, yet some of the gun nutters tell us how nothing can be done. And the NRA leadership is just rogue psychotic at this point. They are out of step even with the vast majority of gunowners (of which I used to be)...I am disgusted and sickened as much as everyone else about this horrible act in Sandy Hook. Little kids writing letters to the President and scripted heartfelt speeches tug at the heartstrings but do little to nothing to curb real gun crime.Comment
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And everyone was considered to be in the "militia" at one point.
Only if you rode a horse...So were bolt action carbines.
In specialty applications. Handguns are nearly useless on the battlefield though, and might get you shot by a sniper. Shotguns are for opening doors rudely and for CQB, but are used in very small numbers...Shotguns are used in the military today. As are handguns.
That's why we're focusing on "assault weapons." Not pistols, revolvers, shotguns, and bolt action long rifles...Everything is a military weapon for fucks sake. Lets just ban the black scary ones to make the sheep feel safer for a while while we shred the Constitution and consolidate our power one step at a time.
No offense bro, but you're not exactly Ian Hogg yourself...The gullible and uninformed elite will trumpet our cause from their moral high ground
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That seems to be based on a pretty big assumption that people who own these kinds of weapons are all "bad" types.That ignores the fact that those who have them mean business and can outgun first responder cops.
Of course not , but are we trying to enact real meaningful change or only curb crime stemming from one specific weapon?Um, should they have ignored the story of a deranged fuckwit carrying an assault/happy/silly gun into a school and murdering two dozen people?
It's so obviously a Political move. do you not see that?
something can be done, but there are millions of these fucking rifles out there yet they are hardly ever used in the commission of a crime....yet some of the gun nutters tell us how nothing can be done.
We need to focus on issues instead of scapegoating on specific weapon and the people who legally own them.Comment
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