The Gun Control Thread

[Nickdfresh]

Pretty much how it should always be.

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Pres. Washington also personally led Federal troops against armed "citizens" in The Whiskey Rebellion...

[Kristy]

I keep my fleshlight in the safe with my guns. Something's gonna go bang at my house, guaran-damn-teed!

Not funny.

[DONNIEP]

Not funny.

Don't care...

[chefcraig]

Seriously, what happened was the guy was a mean drunk and one nite tried to whip out his pistol - tucked in the front of his waistband - and accidentally blew one of his balls off. Sumbitch had to drive himself to the hospital like that!

[Headly1984]

Pres. Washington also personally led Federal troops against armed "citizens" in The Whiskey Rebellion...

good thing the citizens had access to arms - if there were more of em - they coulda changed history sooner..

"The Whiskey Rebellion demonstrated that the new national government had the willingness and ability to suppress violent resistance to its laws. The whiskey excise remained difficult to collect, however. The events contributed to the formation of political parties in the United States, a process already underway. The whiskey tax was repealed after Thomas Jefferson's Republican Party, which opposed Hamilton's Federalist Party, came to power in 1800."

The people may not have won an immediate victory - but they didn't lose either - the tax was hard to collect & then repealed ... seems the resistance indeed had an impact on policy - w/o arms there would have been no resistance & no impact on federal policy

good lesson to remind people that sometime even a gov't can be misguided and needs correction

[Nickdfresh]

good thing the citizens had access to arms - if there were more of em - they coulda changed history sooner..

"The Whiskey Rebellion demonstrated that the new national government had the willingness and ability to suppress violent resistance to its laws. The whiskey excise remained difficult to collect, however. The events contributed to the formation of political parties in the United States, a process already underway. The whiskey tax was repealed after Thomas Jefferson's Republican Party, which opposed Hamilton's Federalist Party, came to power in 1800."

The people may not have won an immediate victory - but they didn't lose either - the tax was hard to collect & then repealed ... seems the resistance indeed had an impact on policy - w/o arms there would have been no resistance & no impact on federal policy

good lesson to remind people that sometime even a gov't can be misguided and needs correction

Arms had nothing to do with it, the political process did. The "citizens" dispersed before any confrontation took place. Today whiskey is taxed and the modernization of distilling processes made the issue moot...

And anyone dumb enough to think a rogue gov't would give a shit or be intimidated by "Cletus" and his .22 are out of their minds and don't read or watch anything but silly NRA propaganda videos...

[Headly1984]

local paper today reported a 16 y/o is going to get 3 1/2 yrs state prison or less for good behavior for firing an illegal handgun in a crowd

guns are not the problem - the lack of enforcement of our CURRENT laws is - this kid could be back on the street before age 20 & back with his buddies & with all that new found thug life in prison -- this kid will have street cred ..

what message does the lack sentence show other gang thugs ? what is 3 1/2 yrs for using an illegal handgun ? seems a disgrace to our justice system -

thought there was a federal minimum of 10 yrs for an illegal handgun - oh well those crazy kids - boyz in da hood will be boyz in da hood

good thing people want those evil AR-15's confiscated .. they do so much harm in so many neighborhoods ..

[Master Po]

Lack of wisdom make many go to jail.
Lack of wisdom make many go to early grave.

Lack of wisdom due to parent lack of wisdom.
No teach children.

[BITEYOASS]

local paper today reported a 16 y/o is going to get 3 1/2 yrs state prison or less for good behavior for firing an illegal handgun in a crowd

guns are not the problem - the lack of enforcement of our CURRENT laws is - this kid could be back on the street before age 20 & back with his buddies & with all that new found thug life in prison -- this kid will have street cred ..

what message does the lack sentence show other gang thugs ? what is 3 1/2 yrs for using an illegal handgun ? seems a disgrace to our justice system -

thought there was a federal minimum of 10 yrs for an illegal handgun - oh well those crazy kids - boyz in da hood will be boyz in da hood

good thing people want those evil AR-15's confiscated .. they do so much harm in so many neighborhoods ..

You can thank the stupid drug war for that. We're throwing pot smokers in prison, while violent offenders are allowed to roam free via early release.

[Headly1984]

Lack of wisdom make many go to jail.
Lack of wisdom make many go to early grave.

Lack of wisdom due to parent lack of wisdom.
No teach children.

You can thank the stupid drug war for that. We're throwing pot smokers in prison,( judges discretion, not we, unless there is a mandatory minimum like there was for crack cocaine v. powder that has since been repealed for racial bias reasons ) while violent offenders are allowed to roam free via early release.

How does either of your posts address a judge that chooses to use their discretion to not enforce Federal gun laws regarding an illegally possessed & obtained handgun that was discharged in a crowd of people that had no witnesses, as happens so often in urban minority communities where most illegal gun activity takes place due to drugs, or it would / could have been a charge of attempted murder

having an illegal handgun is bad according to many laws,state and federal, most people would do 10 yrs or more
- firing a handgun in a public crowd if legally owned and possessed would also result in a serious sentence and a charge of some attempted crime more than likely, because intent would be addressed in most uses of a handgun...

this 16 y/o was not given youthful offender status which is good - but the sentence was a disgrace to intent of laws to deter future crime with severe punishment for serious crimes



still don;t see the how or why the AR-15's need to be confiscated, restricted, banned - rifles are bulky and awkward, hard to conceal and not very good for transient crime - like a handgun is

[Nickdfresh]

[Kristy]

Lame. Everybody knew Reagan was paranoid Commie-hating fuckwit Nazi bag of wind. Notice how he specifically says "AK-47"???

If people had M-16's this speech would have never had happened.

[lesfunk]

Fuck him! AK's Rock!

[Headly1984]

hey there Mr. Buffalo NY .. I am 2 hrs east of ya

the fault with using 1989 RR quote is 2 fold imho -

1 he was suffering dementia by then and not full capacity as a decider & even if he had lucid moments ..

2- use of the term MACHINE GUN implies FULL AUTO

AR-15's and others now banned in NYS or considered for a ban are by current law, semi-auto - therefore not machine guns - rather simple rifles - no different than any other pump, lever action or semi auto any firearm considered not assault anything

[Nickdfresh]

hey there Mr. Buffalo NY .. I am 2 hrs east of ya

the fault with using 1989 RR quote is 2 fold imho -

1 he was suffering dementia by then and not full capacity as a decider & even if he had lucid moments ..

So, he's selectively having dementia when it suits your opinion.

2- use of the term MACHINE GUN implies FULL AUTO

AR-15's and others now banned in NYS or considered for a ban are by current law, semi-auto - therefore not machine guns - rather simple rifles - no different than any other pump, lever action or semi auto any firearm considered not assault anything

Then why don't we send troops into combat in Afghanistan with Winchesters?


A machine-gun is actually a light support weapon or a general purpose machine-gun. The AK is an assault rifle...