Syrian Chemical Weapons Kill Or Maim a 1000

[Nickdfresh]

I think the official line is that they're trying to pressure the gov't into a negotiated settlement and end the war with the Assad regime being shitcanned. Other than that, I have no clear objective nor endgame...

Another view is that if we don't do something, then it will be the North Koreans and the Iranians testing the waters next...

[baru911]

According to the AP - The latest on Russian naval movements

Three Russian naval ships were sailing toward Syria in the eastern Mediterranean on Friday and a fourth was on its way, the Interfax news agency reported, citing a source at navy headquarters.

Kremlin chief of staff Sergei Ivanov said Russia was boosting its naval presence in the Mediterranean Sea, but primarily in order to organize a possible evacuation of Russians from Syria. He did not say how many vessels were being sent.

Two Russian amphibious landing vessels and a reconnaissance ship have passed through the Dardanelles strait, according to the report carried by Interfax, a privately owned agency known for its independent contacts within Russia's armed forces.

Three Russian war ships were seen sailing through the Bosporus in Istanbul, Turkey, on Thursday. It was not immediately clear if they were the same three vessels, although that seemed likely.

Interfax reported that another landing ship had left the Black Sea port of Sevastopol on Friday morning and was to pick up a "special cargo" in Novorossiysk before sailing toward the eastern Mediterranean. The state RIA Novosti news agency also said that the landing ship Nikolai Filchenkov would be headed toward Syria after picking up cargo in Novorossiysk, which it said would take several days.

The three ships reported to have passed through the Dardanelles are the Novocherkassk and Minsk landing vessels and Priazovye reconnaissance ship. The Defense Ministry said it was unable immediately to confirm the ships' departure.

[baru911]

When you compare the response that the world had in 1988 when Iraq used chemical weapons to kill over 3,200 to 5,000 Kurds to what occurred in Syria 15 days ago none of this makes any sense. The only difference seems to be that a US President made a statement he shouldn’t have and now he wants to involve the USA in a scheme to allow him save face.

It is refreshing to see that polls show the US public continues to say in large percentages we have no business getting involved in the Syrian civil war.

[Kristy]

How so, Niki Wiki?

[sadaist]

When you compare the response that the world had in 1988 when Iraq used chemical weapons to kill over 3,200 to 5,000 Kurds to what occurred in Syria 15 days ago none of this makes any sense. The only difference seems to be that a US President made a statement he shouldn’t have and now he wants to involve the USA in a scheme to allow him save face.

It is refreshing to see that polls show the US public continues to say in large percentages we have no business getting involved in the Syrian civil war.

He already saved face by saying he decided to attack Syria. He put it to Congress and he KNOWS they will vote NO. He never ever wanted to go in. He just said he did knowing Congress would bail him out with that NO vote that's coming. It's all for show. He will come out looking quite the peach in this. He set a red line, he acted, congress shut him down.......and wow, extra points to him for following the constitution and putting it to congress.

Rubbish.

[Nickdfresh]

How so, Niki Wiki?

God, I thought you would have lightened up from that massive orgasm Peyton Manning gave you last night...

[Kristy]

Well that certainly answered the question. Fair and square.

[Kristy]

Rubbish.

Dude, where are you from? Enough with the limey speak around here.

[PETE'S BROTHER]

Dude, where are you from? Enough with the limey speak around here.

sesh taught him that...

[vandeleur]

Dude, where are you from? Enough with the limey speak around here.

That Limey sure burned you .... There there .

[sadaist]

Dude, where are you from? Enough with the limey speak around here.

LOL

Someone here used the word rubbish a couple weeks ago. I liked it so much I am working it in to my routine. So we have 1 NO vote now. I'm currently in trial phase. No concrete decisions have been made. Perhaps I should allow congress to decide?

sesh taught him that...

HA! That's right it was Sesh.

[FORD]

Having returned from being outside of the US for just over nine months it has been interesting to look at US news reports on both CBS and NBC in regards to what President Ego is attempting to lead us towards. The very same news networks that would have lost their minds if the previous administration had rattled the US saber, and started a call for war in a country that did nothing to us now seem to be leading the charge towards the US getting involved in a country that has done NOTHING to get itself on our radar.

Seriously?

I don't know what corporate media you were watching in 2002-2003 during the Chimp-PNAC propaganda drive for the Iraq war, but the one I was watching looked a lot like this.....

[FORD]

Syrian woman schools Grandpa Simpson.....

[FORD]

[FORD]

What Are We Doing in Syria?

September 6, 2013

With the probability of American intervention, Syria is everywhere in the news. On this week’s Moyers & Company, Phil Donahue, filling in for Bill Moyers, speaks with National Public Radio Middle East correspondent Deborah Amos and historian and Vietnam veteran Andrew Bacevich about the possible repercussions of our actions in the Middle East.

As he has done so often in recent years, Andrew Bacevich is asking the important questions about America’s role in the world and specifically why we should go into Syria. Is a military response justified and if we take action, where does it stop? A graduate of West Point and Vietnam veteran, he served for 23 years in the military before becoming a professor at Boston University. His new book, Breach of Trust, asks whether our reliance on a professional military rather than a citizen’s army has lured us into a morass of endless war — a trap that threatens not only our global reputation but democracy itself.

Among its deadly side effects, the war in Syria has created a refugee crisis beyond that country’s borders — a “disgraceful humanitarian calamity” and “the great tragedy of this century,” according to the United Nations. Deborah Amos, a veteran National Public Radio correspondent, joins Donahue for a discussion about the human toll of the Syrian fighting, and the potential impact of millions of displaced people on the region.