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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sgt Schultz
Show me the quote where Bush said that anyone that disagrees with him is unpatriotic.
"You're either with us, or you're with the terra-ists". He said it 9-12-01 and has repeated it several times since.
What Cheney said was nothing different than what the Democrats have been saying – that Cheney and Bush have made the U.S. LESS safe and added to the numbers of terrorists in the world. Just that when Cheney says it , the press pees their pants.
Cheney said that if you don't re-elect the BCE, that the terrorists will attack. That's a direct threat to the American populataion in an attempt to influence a political outcome, and under their own "Patriot" act is considered terrorism
So out of their own mouths, the BCE are terrorists.
I’m GLAD (seriously) that you agree that we should not cut and run out of Iraq, because Kerry and his party thinks we should and the terrorists and Baathists in Iraq know that.
Kerry has said no such thing. Neither has Edwards. The only Democrat who called for any sort of immediate withdrawal of US troops was Dennis Kucinich. And even he was only suggesting they be replaced with UN troops.
Bush never misrepresented anything.
If Bush's lips are moving, he's lying.
Like I said in an earlier post, he was doing his job as Commander in Chief – “connecting the dots” as the Dems insisted he do.
There were NEVER any "dots" connecting Saddam Hussein with 9-11-01.
If your intelligence service tells you something do you believe it or not? If you act on it are you then “lying” when you relate this same intelligence to the world as justification for the invasion of Iraq? That’s lying? Why wasn’t Saddam a credible threat. Don’t you agree that 19 men with box cutters proved to be a devastating threat the U.S.?
19 men with box cutters, assuming you actually believe that steaming crock of shit story, directly attacked the United States of America. Iraq did not, and had no realistic capability of doing so.
Ah, so we’re back to this war being about oil and Haliburton.
That may very well have been part of Bush & Cheney's motivation, but not PNAC's.
So why aren’t the profits of the oil being pumped out of Iraq now going into the pockets of the U.S. and/or Bush? Is Cheney still employed by Haliburton?
He's still drawing a Haliburton paycheck through deferred compensation, and no doubt still owns stock in the company. Not to mention the likelihood of them "holding his chair" for him when he needs a job again, hopefully in January. And BCE/Halliburton is making a fortune off Iraqi oil, by selling it to the Iraqis at 5 cents a gallon and soaking US taxpayers for the rest of the money.
Why are we facing such tough opposition in Iraq now? Because we control the whole country. I don’t get you, you are contradicting yourself. First you criticize George Bush in 1991 for “not finishing the job” and taking Saddam out – even though he had no mandate from your precious UN to do so. But now, after 12 years of violations of every cease fire and UN resolution, and credible intelligence that he was a gathering threat, it was totally wrong to take out Saddam. If we were facing truly “tough: opposition in Iraq millions of Iraqis would be under arms fighting us – they aren’t. This is a fight against Iranian and al Quaeda - backed terrorist thugs and we are winning. The vast majority of Iraqis are glad we liberated their country.
Besides neocon rhetoric, what evidence do you have to support any of that?
the Iraqi conscripts that were surrendering to camera crews in 1991 are the same ones who dropped their weapons and ran in 2004. They are just as happy to see us now but since the major media doesn’t want to show anything positive about what is going on in Iraq you think it’s all negative.
Corporate media coverage of Iraq has been surpressed because showing what a complete fucking failure it is on TV would wake up even the most hopelessly FAUX addicted Busheep to the reality of this Fraudministration's lies, and what they have cost this country.
Show me the quote where Bush said that anyone that disagrees with him is unpatriotic.
"You're either with us, or you're with the terra-ists". He said it 9-12-01 and has repeated it several times since.
What Cheney said was nothing different than what the Democrats have been saying – that Cheney and Bush have made the U.S. LESS safe and added to the numbers of terrorists in the world. Just that when Cheney says it , the press pees their pants.
Cheney said that if you don't re-elect the BCE, that the terrorists will attack. That's a direct threat to the American populataion in an attempt to influence a political outcome, and under their own "Patriot" act is considered terrorism
So out of their own mouths, the BCE are terrorists.
I’m GLAD (seriously) that you agree that we should not cut and run out of Iraq, because Kerry and his party thinks we should and the terrorists and Baathists in Iraq know that.
Kerry has said no such thing. Neither has Edwards. The only Democrat who called for any sort of immediate withdrawal of US troops was Dennis Kucinich. And even he was only suggesting they be replaced with UN troops.
Bush never misrepresented anything.
If Bush's lips are moving, he's lying.
Like I said in an earlier post, he was doing his job as Commander in Chief – “connecting the dots” as the Dems insisted he do.
There were NEVER any "dots" connecting Saddam Hussein with 9-11-01.
If your intelligence service tells you something do you believe it or not? If you act on it are you then “lying” when you relate this same intelligence to the world as justification for the invasion of Iraq? That’s lying? Why wasn’t Saddam a credible threat. Don’t you agree that 19 men with box cutters proved to be a devastating threat the U.S.?
19 men with box cutters, assuming you actually believe that steaming crock of shit story, directly attacked the United States of America. Iraq did not, and had no realistic capability of doing so.
Ah, so we’re back to this war being about oil and Haliburton.
That may very well have been part of Bush & Cheney's motivation, but not PNAC's.
So why aren’t the profits of the oil being pumped out of Iraq now going into the pockets of the U.S. and/or Bush? Is Cheney still employed by Haliburton?
He's still drawing a Haliburton paycheck through deferred compensation, and no doubt still owns stock in the company. Not to mention the likelihood of them "holding his chair" for him when he needs a job again, hopefully in January. And BCE/Halliburton is making a fortune off Iraqi oil, by selling it to the Iraqis at 5 cents a gallon and soaking US taxpayers for the rest of the money.
Why are we facing such tough opposition in Iraq now? Because we control the whole country. I don’t get you, you are contradicting yourself. First you criticize George Bush in 1991 for “not finishing the job” and taking Saddam out – even though he had no mandate from your precious UN to do so. But now, after 12 years of violations of every cease fire and UN resolution, and credible intelligence that he was a gathering threat, it was totally wrong to take out Saddam. If we were facing truly “tough: opposition in Iraq millions of Iraqis would be under arms fighting us – they aren’t. This is a fight against Iranian and al Quaeda - backed terrorist thugs and we are winning. The vast majority of Iraqis are glad we liberated their country.
Besides neocon rhetoric, what evidence do you have to support any of that?
the Iraqi conscripts that were surrendering to camera crews in 1991 are the same ones who dropped their weapons and ran in 2004. They are just as happy to see us now but since the major media doesn’t want to show anything positive about what is going on in Iraq you think it’s all negative.
Corporate media coverage of Iraq has been surpressed because showing what a complete fucking failure it is on TV would wake up even the most hopelessly FAUX addicted Busheep to the reality of this Fraudministration's lies, and what they have cost this country.
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