Pentagon Strike Bogus.

[ELVIS]

There is documented evidence of a plane being there...

This is not even worth arguing...

Ally, go break into your mother's office...

[diamondD]

Why do you keep ignoring my statement about knowing someone who was there and how they wouldn't lie to protect someone who almost killed them?

Because you can't dispute it with spin?

[freak]

Originally posted by PHOENIX
Its really funny as to how many Americans cannot even remotely believe that their government might be corrupt.

Even more funny is how some manage to ignore the laws of physics and mountains of evidence to support paranoid delusions.

[diamondD]

I never saw one piece of wreckage from either plane at the WTC if I remember right.

[diamondD]

Wow, look at all of this evidence of a plane in PA, and it didn't even hit one of the world's most enforced buildings.

[FORD]

Originally posted by diamondD
Why do you keep ignoring my statement about knowing someone who was there and how they wouldn't lie to protect someone who almost killed them?

Because you can't dispute it with spin?

There's a number of possibilities there....

First, there's the nature of what the building is. Unless your contact's name is Rummy, and I'm assuming it isn't, then he's taking orders from somebody. Or several somebodies. And he could be under orders not to say anything that variates from the "official story".

Second, is that possibility that the man actually believed it was a plane when it hit. A cruise missile moving at a high rate of speed, wouldn't look that different from an airplane at a high rate of speed, and admittedly, you wouldn't be expecting either one to be coming directly into the ground floor of the Pentagon. Nor would you be expecting a cruise missile at all, given the fact that there was no war in progress at the time.

Third is that the guy is in on the plan and is deliberately lying. You know the man and I don't, so you can discard that possibility if it doesn't fit what you know about him.

I'd guess the second scenario myself.

[freak]

Originally posted by FORD
Second, is that possibility that the man actually believed it was a plane when it hit. A cruise missile moving at a high rate of speed, wouldn't look that different from an airplane at a high rate of speed, and admittedly, you wouldn't be expecting either one to be coming directly into the ground floor of the Pentagon. Nor would you be expecting a cruise missile at all, given the fact that there was no war in progress at the time.

"Cruise Missile" Passenger Manifest

CREW

Charles Burlingame of Herndon, Virginia, was the plane's captain. He had more than 20 years of experience flying with American Airlines and was a former U.S. Navy pilot.
David Charlebois, who lived in Washington's Dupont Circle neighborhood, was the first officer on the flight.
Michele Heidenberger of Chevy Chase, Maryland, was a flight attendant for 30 years. S
Flight attendant Jennifer Lewis, 38, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the wife of flight attendant Kenneth Lewis.
Flight attendant Kenneth Lewis, 49, of Culpeper, Virginia, was the husband of flight attendant Jennifer Lewis.
Renee May, 39, of Baltimore, Maryland, was a flight attendant.


PASSENGERS

Paul Ambrose, 32, of Washington, was a physician who worked with the U.S. Department of Health.
Yeneneh Betru, 35, was from Burbank, California.
M.J. Booth
Bernard Brown, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Suzanne Calley, 42, of San Martin, California, was an employee of Cisco Systems Inc.
William Caswell
Sarah Clark, 65, of Columbia, Maryland, was a sixth-grade teacher at Backus Middle School in Washington.
Asia Cottom, 11, was a student at Backus Middle School in Washington.
James Debeuneure, 58, of Maryland, was a fifth-grade teacher at Ketcham Elementary School in Washington.
Rodney Dickens, 11, was a student at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Eddie Dillard
Charles Droz
Barbara Edwards, 58, of Las Vegas, Nevada, was a teacher at Palo Verde High School in Las Vegas.
Charles S. Falkenberg, 45, of University Park, Maryland, was the director of research at ECOlogic Corp.
Zoe Falkenberg, 8, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Dana Falkenberg, 3, of University Park, Maryland, was the daughter of Charles Falkenberg and Leslie Whittingham.
Joe Ferguson was the director of the National Geographic Society's geography education outreach program in Washington.
Wilson "Bud" Flagg of Millwood, Virginia, was a retired Navy admiral and retired American Airlines pilot.
Dee Flagg
Richard Gabriel
Ian Gray, 55, of Washington was the president of a health-care consulting firm.
Stanley Hall, 68, was from Rancho Palos Verdes, California.
Bryan Jack, 48, of Alexandria, Virginia, was a senior executive at the Defense Department.
Steven D. "Jake" Jacoby, 43, of Alexandria, Virginia, was the chief operating officer of Metrocall Inc.
Ann Judge, 49, of Virginia was the travel office manager for the National Geographic Society.
Yvonne Kennedy
Norma Khan, 45, from Reston, Virginia was a nonprofit organization manager.
Karen A. Kincaid, 40, was a lawyer with the Washington firm of Wiley Rein & Fielding.
Norma Langsteuerle
Dong Lee
Dora Menchaca, 45, of Santa Monica, California, worked for a biotech firm.
Christopher Newton, 38, of Anaheim, California, was president and chief executive officer of Work-Life Benefits.
Barbara Olson, 45, was a conservative commentator who often appeared on CNN.
Ruben Ornedo, 39, of Los Angeles, California, was a Boeing propulsion engineer.
Robert Penniger, 63, of Poway, California, was an electrical engineer with BAE Systems.
Lisa Raines, 42, was senior vice president for government relations at the Washington office of Genzyme.
Todd Reuben, 40, of Potomac, Maryland, was a tax and business lawyer.
John Sammartino
Diane Simmons
George Simmons
Mari-Rae Sopper of Santa Barbara, California, was a women's gymnastics coach at the University of California.
Bob Speisman, 47, was from Irvington, New York.
Hilda Taylor was a sixth-grade teacher at Leckie Elementary School in Washington.
Leonard Taylor was from Reston, Virginia.
Leslie A. Whittington, 45, was from University Park, Maryland.
John Yamnicky, 71, was from Waldorf, Maryland.
Vicki Yancey
Shuyin Yang
Yuguag Zheng



Dumbass.

[diamondD]

Originally posted by FORD
There's a number of possibilities there....

First, there's the nature of what the building is. Unless your contact's name is Rummy, and I'm assuming it isn't, then he's taking orders from somebody. Or several somebodies. And he could be under orders not to say anything that variates from the "official story".

Second, is that possibility that the man actually believed it was a plane when it hit. A cruise missile moving at a high rate of speed, wouldn't look that different from an airplane at a high rate of speed, and admittedly, you wouldn't be expecting either one to be coming directly into the ground floor of the Pentagon. Nor would you be expecting a cruise missile at all, given the fact that there was no war in progress at the time.

Third is that the guy is in on the plan and is deliberately lying. You know the man and I don't, so you can discard that possibility if it doesn't fit what you know about him.

I'd guess the second scenario myself.

I choose to discard all 3 of your scenarios and take the word of someone who was there. Did you look at GS's link?

And where's the plane in PA?

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by FORD
A cruise missile moving at a high rate of speed, wouldn't look that different from an airplane at a high rate of speed,

Bullshit motherfucker!

A cruise missle would look like a FUCKING CRUISE MISSLE, and an airplane would look like A FUCKING AIRPLANE!

Quit talking down to, and underestimating other people, who, just might, be smarter than your dumb ass!


You're sick in the head...

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by diamondD
I choose to discard all 3 of your scenarios and take the word of someone who was there. Did you look at GS's link?

And where's the plane in PA?

He can't answer that...

He'll give more conspiracy...

[freak]

I'm hoping for his sake that 3/4th of the crap he spews is a joke of some kind.

I don't want to contemplate this nonsense as being a legitimate peek inside his head.

It'd be a damned tragic life to have to live.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Snopes.com spanks FORD in the ass

Wreckage from the site GS posted. I've been there numerous times. They do a decent job of debunking whackos like FORD.

[ELVIS]

Originally posted by freak
I'm hoping for his sake that 3/4th of the crap he spews is a joke of some kind.

I don't want to contemplate this nonsense as being a legitimate peek inside his head.

It'd be a damned tragic life to have to live.

Dude, It's real...

I've been reading his bullshit for years...

He totally believes it, and unfortunately, lives it...

He probably thinks carbohydrates are a BCE conspiracy to make people fat...

[freak]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Wreckage from the site GS posted. I've been there numerous times. They do a decent job of debunking whackos like FORD.

No, they refuse to believe anything that contradicts them and, at the same time, grasp onto anything, regardless of how stupid it might be, to bolster their arguments.

Piss poor forgeries faxed from a Texas Kinkos in the middle of the night are gospel truth.

However...

56 dead people and their families, pieces of aircraft-grade aluminum, vestages of a file hot enough to melt industrial steel and two identical occurences happening in front of thousands of witnesses and, later, millions of TV viewers are to be ignored, discredited or explained away somehow.

It's fucking pathetic.

[ELVIS]

That's right...

Fuck 'em!