Pentagon Strike Bogus.

[FORD]

Originally posted by ELVIS


He probably thinks carbohydrates are a BCE conspiracy to make people fat...

Highly processed carbohydrates such as bleached white flour and high fructose corn syrup might as well be, but I don't know of a direct link to the BCE. Same mentality though..... greedy corporations searching for ways to maximize profits without giving a shit whom they endanger in the process.

However, the neuro-poison known as "Nutra Sweet" was released by the Searle corporation (now part of Monsanto) at a time when the company's CEO was named Donald Rumsfeld

[diamondD]

Did they make you eat them too?

[ELVIS]

See.. told you so...:D

[FORD]

Originally posted by Guitar Shark
Snopes.com spanks FORD in the ass

Two things concerning Snopes....

1) Their "debunking" was directed towards the original French website from 2002, and this video covers things not included on that website, as does the excellent documentary "9-11 in Plane Site", which I suggest you locate a copy of and watch it if you give a shit about this country at all.

2) While Snopes usually does a good job in comparing a rumor to the factual record, it doesn't work in this case, because the BCE's "offiical story" can NOT be assumed as a factual record. Not when there are blatant lies included in them. Not that Snopes lied, they merely repeat BCE lies as their standard for debunking the French website. Which means they are perpetuating lies, knowingly or not.. For example, the idea that the plane hit the ground first and left a crater - yet no such crater was ever seen, despite the obvious presence of the media on the scene at the time.

Hopefully Snopes will debunk the BCE fables one day, once the regime is brought down

[ELVIS]

Thing is.. there is no BCE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LoungeMachine]

A simple, clear question for you Elvis,

WHY HAVE THE OFFICIAL PENTAGON VIDEOS NEVER BEEN RELEASED?

please, oh please don't give me that tired old "national security"

Why no stills from the videos even, just showing a single frame of any plane, let alone a friggin 757?

[ELVIS]

I do not know...

I will look into whatever I can find...

[LoungeMachine]

Fair enough.

[wraytw]

Originally posted by LoungeMachine
A simple, clear question for you Elvis,

WHY HAVE THE OFFICIAL PENTAGON VIDEOS NEVER BEEN RELEASED?

Like you and FORD wouldn't claim that they were doctored is some way or another if they were.

[madraoul]

I think a true leader would come out and denounce all of these "stupid" conspiracy theories. This is what you get when all decisions made are kept secret under "executive priviledge."

[freak]

Originally posted by madraoul
I think a true leader would come out and denounce all of these "stupid" conspiracy theories. This is what you get when all decisions made are kept secret under "executive priviledge."

Denouncing would just make certain people scream "white wash" and "cover up".

Keeping quiet makes them scream "conspiracy".

Damned if thy do and damned if they don't though.

Regardless of what they do, these people will fault them.

Personally, I'd like to see a State of the Union address that consisted of one statement: "Y'all are a bunch of deluded idiots. Get a fucking life and take those silly-assed aluminum foil beanies off! Thank you, God bless and good night."

[Big Train]

To me, to keep the damage at the Pentagon somewhat under wraps IS a matter of national security. The building must be considered an extremely high target on ANY enemy countries list, so showing clear shots of the types of damage caused or the methods used (angle of attack, relative speed) is just giving people ideas about how to do it better next time. Every country in the world with Nuclear capability has a missle aimed right for the front door of the place.

The cruise missle thing is weak. Unless someone was standing literally at the side of the building and fired a SAM, there is NO WAY people would not see the exhaust plume. From any other angle, the exhaust plume would draw a straight line right back to the point of fire which anyone in the vicinity (Freeway, parking lots etc..) would have seen. Ford would say , well then it was an inside job. Which doesn't wash either as the size of the hole thats there, that explosion would blow you up in the process. That's logic...Ford will paint you a different picture in a following post, but then you are arguing science vs. delusional Perry Mason.

[Panamark]

Im going to throw my 2 ignorant cents worth in here.. (again)

We probably didnt get to see as much of the live footage and
reporting of the pentagon crash as you guys did. Although we
did see a shitload of footage from the towers.

Did anyone ever see footage of a 757 even headed towards
the pentagon ???

Now would we agree on this, the Pentagon would have to have
some of the most sophisticated video surveillance systems
there is, in existance. The only footage I have seen is
indistinguishable. It could be Spammy's fookin Mothership
its so blurry..

Now, if anyone of you guys can tell me you saw footage,
Im going to feel like a total idiot for even posting this,
and apologise for even creating a thread questioning
the integrity of your government. After all, us Aussies
went to war in Iraq, after our own intelligence offices (Asio)
informed the Prime Minister that they had no evidence
of Weapons of Mass Destruction. In short, we totally
trust you guys. So Im sure this is just some propoganda
bullshit concoted to disrupt your election..

There must have been some footage of this jet, right ??

My heart sank reading the list of peoples names, by the way.

[Big Train]

BTW< I have to make reference to guitar sharks post earlier...Ford's own website which he touts EVERY theory known to man, disagrees with him on this one.

http://www.snopes.com/rumors/pentagon.htm

Status: False

Now I am always making fun of this website cause they are suspect. I will continue to do so. However, when even the loonies can't agree...

Status: FALSE...ha ha...

[FORD]

Given the timing of the events, all the news cameras, and everyone's attention was still focused on the WTC at this time. Given as there was no live video existing of the first tower crash at the time, most people - even on the scene had no idea what had happenned with the first hit, and most assumed it was an accident. Obviously the second plane crashing about 15 minutes later ruled that out.

With the shock, and all the implications of what that probably meant at the time, nobody was even thinking there would be more. Hell, few were thinking at all.... I know I wasn't because it was still 6:00 AM here and I wasn't supposed to be fully awake yet.

The Pentagon explosion was first reported as a truck bomb. There was no mention of an airplane until much later. (Probably because the impact hole was too small to support the airplane option) And by the time they changed their story to a plane crash there, then the whole Flight 93 thing came into it, and all that did or didn't happen there (shot down vs the made for TV movie "hero" scenario) and by that time, the tower collapsing.....

By 7:30 that morning I was already exhausted - but managed to get to work anyway. Which left me with no time to contemplate what really happenned at the Pentagon. At least not then.