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[vandeleur]

Am starting a book so I can take odds on how long it takes WARF to get band or something

[WARF]

I'm willing to stop arguing old points as long as I don't have to keep seeing a revised version of what happened. If we are dropping it then let's flat out fucking drop out. No he did this so I did that bull shit. Drop it all, now, to make the site's transition as easy as possible. If we can agree on that then nobody will hear another word from me about it all.

I'm willing to let things be water under the bridge. I see Von Halen and Sesh are running this place...those two guys are at the top of my book.

[DONNIEP]

I'm willing to stop arguing old points as long as I don't have to keep seeing a revised version of what happened. If we are dropping it then let's flat out fucking drop out. No he did this so I did that bull shit. Drop it all, now, to make the site's transition as easy as possible. If we can agree on that then nobody will hear another word from me about it all.

To quote an old friend, "Yes, yes and yes!!!" Let's get back to having so much fun we're whistling Zippity Doo Dah out our assholes!!

Pass the beers!!!

[TFM_Dale]

The problem is people LOVE to get their panties all tied up over a fucking message board...

Say your fucking piece and move the fuck on...

I admit to pressing people's buttons, but fuck it...

Some of these crybabies are as predictable as my dogs...

I just laugh at the whole thing...

And I agree but sometimes enough is enough. I realize their are many members that have been here far longer then I have, it doesn't make me care any less about the site though. It is my fave place to fuck around online and pass some time working an insane amount of hours.

[twonabomber]

then I say let's try and make peace!

Until you get bored and try to start another site war. :D and don't say you never did!

[ELVIS]

I'm willing to stop arguing old points as long as I don't have to keep seeing a revised version of what happened. If we are dropping it then let's flat out fucking drop out. No he did this so I did that bull shit. Drop it all, now, to make the site's transition as easy as possible. If we can agree on that then nobody will hear another word from me about it all.

The problem is people LOVE to get their panties all tied up over a fucking message board...

Say your fucking piece and move the fuck on...

I admit to pressing people's buttons, but fuck it...

Some of these crybabies are as predictable as my dogs...

I just laugh at the whole thing...

[DLR Bridge]

I want this place to succeed more than anyone...

I can appreciate your time invested in this site, but I have to say, anyone who's only been here as long as I have or less will have a hard time believing that.

[ELVIS]

I want this place to succeed more than anyone...

That's not true...

[TFM_Dale]

I'm willing to stop arguing old points as long as I don't have to keep seeing a revised version of what happened. If we are dropping it then let's flat out fucking drop out. No he did this so I did that bull shit. Drop it all, now, to make the site's transition as easy as possible. If we can agree on that then nobody will hear another word from me about it all.

[WARF]

What happens now though. This whole going to war thing is fucked up , its all one minute both sites can exist then its the above quote.

What happens now is the real question ....

We hang a big sign with under new management on.
Every one comes back and then the other half ( pun half arsed intended) fuck off and start a site that hates this one.

I probably shouldn't be the one to comment saying as I have no personal involvement in this except am as probably the same as every one else and fucking sick of the whole drama thing.
Yes there have been things done that have upset people but at some point someone has to put it to bed.

Fuck me if dave and ed can sort shit we must be able to ....but warf better be wearing a cup ....I keed I keed

Things are gonna work out fine for both sites. I believe. I'm waiting to see who Sesh drafts for his players. Will it be Joe Montana, or Ryan Leaf?

Whatever the scenario is, we still got a lot of people pissed off from both sides of the fence. It doesn't really matter who was right or wrong at this point. Yesterday the "hands fell off the clock" and Seshmeister and the Roth Army made beautiful music together. Three new songs, and they will be on Tabula Rasa :D

Seriously, if we can unban the people like Sy, phil and flappo (flappo is optional he might be banned again anyways) then I say let's try and make peace! Anyone who knows me that I am not one to hold a grudge against anyone. I can't comment anymore until I see the staff selections and what direction this place is headed. I want this place to succeed more than anyone... but it has to be done right.

[WARF]

Didn't all of them get the axe as far as things stand at the moment?

That's what it looks like to the general public. I always thought for the past 13 years, "Tabula Rasa" was the rumored title for the upcoming 2001 Van Halen album. It's kinda ironic now it came into fruition at the Roth Army in another form 13 years later

[vandeleur]

. I wouldn't be complaining and going to war if I didn't like the shit hole it's become.

What happens now though. This whole going to war thing is fucked up , its all one minute both sites can exist then its the above quote.

What happens now is the real question ....

We hang a big sign with under new management on.
Every one comes back and then the other half ( pun half arsed intended) fuck off and start a site that hates this one.

I probably shouldn't be the one to comment saying as I have no personal involvement in this except am as probably the same as every one else and fucking sick of the whole drama thing.
Yes there have been things done that have upset people but at some point someone has to put it to bed.

Fuck me if dave and ed can sort shit we must be able to ....but warf better be wearing a cup ....I keed I keed

[ELVIS]

To your point on competitiveness... Yes, damn right it exists. We're humans first... then add Roth fanatics... then add most of us are Americans... Fuck yeah, we're competitive as hell... in everything.

You just described my avatar...

[Northern Girl]

Some of the mods here abused their power to fuel their own egos, and that's why they got the axe.

Didn't all of them get the axe as far as things stand at the moment?

[ZahZoo]

Because it seems like the development of DLRF was done not because of a pressing need for another Roth/VH forum, but rather as a "fuck you" to the Roth Army and a personal shot at a segment of its membership. I've seen that sentiment both indirectly and directly alluded to over there.

It seems we've been down this road before. And to invoke the Links as an example of "friendly, cross-forum posting" seems a little disingenuous. A large portion of Links-related posts I've seen here over the years have been by people slamming it, and slamming it hard.

Competition between forums is always part of the deal, and it usually crosses the line into downright nastiness.

People had issues with Roth Chats and numerous other forums over the years.

I'm not saying that you shouldn't post at other existing forums. Knock yourselves out and have fun.

But to go out and deliberately start a new one from scratch and have its members give the appearance that they're trying to poach members from here seems a little dastardly. It seems like a long-term solution to a short term issue, and I'd rather tough out the bad times at a long standing place I feel comfortable with then have some short-lived high times at the new place in town.

To me, this is "Cheers" vs. "Gary's Old Town Tavern." I think everybody knows which is which as it relates to the respective sites.

To your point on competitiveness... Yes, damn right it exists. We're humans first... then add Roth fanatics... then add most of us are Americans... Fuck yeah, we're competitive as hell... in everything. Then add tension and a penchant for fighting... Once again, Roth fanatics, Americans... etc. All seems within and I'll proudly say in character...

Nothin wrong with loyalty... some folks live their whole lives camped in the same neighborhood looking at the same scenery. You appear to be one of those types... cool for ya.

Now others... well call them more social and nomadic... but fuck that, let's get right down to the primal roots of the matter. Many of us follow in the foot steps of out ancestors... moving from tribe to tribe... hood to hood. Not due to disloyalty to anyone or any thing... but for the simple purpose of spreading our seed and ensuring diversity in the gene pool... How's that for pure motivation... and some adventure to fill your day?