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  • Lou

    #61
    Originally posted by pete
    They created something brilliant, artisitic, and entirely they're own. And they acheived success on their own terms.

    When they got Hagar it was not the music that sold. Anything would've sold at that time. (A chart would reveal a steady decline with each release.) They were riding on the momentum that they created after "1984".

    After "1984", instead of creating or expanding on what made them unique, the opted to apply their sound to very formulatic, typical, cliche songs.

    Any attempts to rekindle their old sound sounded contrived and forced and lacked the live energy of the original 6 albums. Plus, hagar can't write anything but cliche rhymes (contrived again). (poundcake LOL)

    It's not only a Dave thing. They're not a band. They're a corporation. I hear it. It's high-gloss but plastic. Cut into little edible chunks. Lot's of sugar but very little protein.

    They're not the only ones.

    Not what I like in my music or art.
    Wow what a great post. "Van Halen" is so much a business now, more than it's ever been. They are NOT doing this for the love of music because if they did they would have gotten Roth back and done the kick-ass songs. You know what? People like Jagger and Richards, Tyler and Perry who don't like each other will work with each other on stage because their love of music supersedes their animosity towards each other. They respect each other's work and enjoy making good music and art despite the differences. Not so with Ed. He may not like Sam, but he hates Roth even more and he knows that Sambo will just be his bitch. There's no artistry or creativity here, if there was there'd be a new album and new songs. Nope, they're going to play out-dated synth ballads...how pathetic is that?!

    I want a Van Hagar fan to tell me how the band progressed doing "When It's Love," "Love Walks In," and then CONTINUING that shit into the '90s with "Not Enough." Please tell me with a straight face that that was progression and they weren't lazy.

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    • Lou

      #62
      Oh pardon me, there is a new song "It's About Time" right? I'm sure it'll be more typical Van Hagar cheese. And it's something that Ed already wrote right? So Sambo will fit in some lyrics...point being they didn't really collaborate on it and write it together. Absolutely no chemistry.

      I really think Van Hagar fans have a common defect in their brains and ears that can be detected emprically.

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      • Dr. Love
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Jan 2004
        • 7833

        #63
        The irony is strong in this thread.
        I've got the cure you're thinkin' of.

        http://i.imgur.com/jBw4fCu.gif

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        • Roth-Halen
          Head Fluffer
          • Apr 2004
          • 270

          #64
          BIG TROUBLE IS A VERY WELL READ PERSON.
          JUST LIKE DAVE ROTH!!!!!!
          RIGHT ON BRO.

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          • jeando
            Full On Cocktard
            • Mar 2004
            • 43

            #65
            Originally posted by thefive
            This is why they are a sellout. One of the many reasons.

            I hope you get this so I do not have to explain it word for word.

            How do I know when it's love?
            I can't tell you but it lasts forever
            Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
            It's just something you feel together

            (Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
            (Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
            (Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!
            How do I know when it's love?
            I can't tell you but it lasts forever
            Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
            It's just something you feel together

            (Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
            (Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
            (Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!

            How do I know when it's love?
            I can't tell you but it lasts forever
            Oh! How does it feel when it's love?
            It's just something you feel together

            (Oh oh oh oh) Oh, when it's love
            (Oh oh oh oh) You can feel it, yeah!
            (Oh oh oh oh) Nothin's missin', yeah!


            That is selling out.

            the5
            fore someone who is a spammy hater you sure know your way around with his lyrics?????? .....

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            • smaz
              Commando
              • Mar 2004
              • 1441

              #66
              I think Hagar fans hate Dave as their jealous that when Roth was with Halen, he took them to the top. Then Hagar joined, and he took them back down and messed everything up for them. They wish Spammy could be like Dave, successful. But bollocks to that. I listened to about 30 seconds of a VH song with Hagar. His singing was awful and I've made sure I've not heard any more of it.
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              • Big Troubles
                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                • Feb 2004
                • 8517

                #67
                Originally posted by Roth-Halen
                BIG TROUBLE IS A VERY WELL READ PERSON.
                JUST LIKE DAVE ROTH!!!!!!
                RIGHT ON BRO.
                Why thank you. Now Im gushing. :D
                "FUCK YOU, YOU FUCKIN' BITCH! WHO THE FUCK DO YOU THINK YOU ARE ANYWAYS? TALK TO ME LIKE THAT? FUCK YOU. DRAG QUEEN LOOKIN' WHORE- YOU AINT SHIT. YOUR THE FRECKLE TO THE LEFT OF MY BROWN EYE. NOW GO MAKE YOURSELF USEFUL...OH, PUT DAD ON THE PHONE"

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                • Lou

                  #68
                  Originally posted by jeando
                  fore someone who is a spammy hater you sure know your way around with his lyrics?????? .....
                  Oooh what a comeback. Like we haven't all heard the Spam songs or got suckered into buying Van Hagar albums hoping it'd be somewhat the same as Van HALEN. And all you have to do is go to van-halen.com to get those lyrics. Nice try, but you fail.

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                  • DavidLeeNatra
                    TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                    • Jan 2004
                    • 10715

                    #69
                    Originally posted by Lou
                    Oooh what a comeback. Like we haven't all heard the Spam songs or got suckered into buying Van Hagar albums hoping it'd be somewhat the same as Van HALEN. And all you have to do is go to van-halen.com to get those lyrics. Nice try, but you fail.
                    for me it is funny because I actually NEVER listened to van hagar (except for 5150...once...and "live without a net"...once) and just READING them is like "hey, which school band from sibiria in russia with a dictionary from the 18'th century tried to translate th eirshit into english"
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                    • thefive

                      #70
                      Originally posted by jeando
                      fore someone who is a spammy hater you sure know your way around with his lyrics?????? .....
                      Like I said its like 4 clicks away. Go to the official vh site. Click and click and lyrics, copy and paste.

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                      • pete
                        Crazy Ass Mofo
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 3325

                        #71
                        Originally posted by jeando
                        fore someone who is a spammy hater you sure know your way around with his lyrics?????? .....
                        internet lesson #1

                        go to google.com type a song title in parenthesis. this --> "
                        is what parenthesis look like, hit your space bar and type lyrics.

                        it will astound you

                        you will be the life of the party

                        people will actually mistake you for intelligent.

                        and you can wack off to the eloquent pros of Spermmy Gaydar.

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                        • DavidLeeNatra
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10715

                          #72
                          yeah...and to find spammy lyrics it's enough to type "woo yeah love" and you get'em all...
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                          • jeando
                            Full On Cocktard
                            • Mar 2004
                            • 43

                            #73
                            Get of my back and accept that I don't have any interest of finding a place were I can look into spammy lyrics. Why should I want to????
                            The thought didn't even cross my mind it's that simple
                            Last edited by jeando; 04-24-2004, 09:56 PM.

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                            • pete
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 3325

                              #74
                              Originally posted by jeando
                              Get of my back and accept that I don't have any interest of finding a place were I can look into spammy lyrics. Why should I want to????
                              The thought didn't even cross my mind it's that simple
                              Well spoken
                              you get 5 stars from me

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                              • rustoffa
                                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 8963

                                #75
                                Originally posted by pete
                                internet lesson #1

                                go to google.com type a song title in parenthesis. this --> "
                                is what parenthesis look like, hit your space bar and type lyrics.

                                it will astound you

                                you will be the life of the party

                                people will actually mistake you for intelligent.

                                and you can wack off to the eloquent pros of Spermmy Gaydar.
                                LMMFAO......also sing365.com has a massive lyrics database. I always look up Dr. Hook lyrics there

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