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  • Alex Mogilny
    Head Fluffer
    • Apr 2004
    • 495

    Originally posted by Hardrock69
    Fuck Deadhead.

    This is NOT a reunion tour if the bass player is not in the band, and I will not be interested in anything released by this latest Ed Van Halen "project", nor will I be interested in seeing any shows.

    Tell Ed to stop being such an immature pussy, and make it a REAL reunion, or don't fucking bother.

    He already is fucking up anything he does. Why drag Roth into this if Ed is going to just going to ruin it for everyone involved?

    Go sell crazy some place HR...If DLR is at the GEC with the Van Halens...you'll be there.

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    • TheArchitect
      Groupie
      • Oct 2006
      • 97

      Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
      Well, its entirely possible the 3 or 4 or 5 tracks that were recorded with Dave in 2000 may see the light of day with a new release.

      Coupled with a few new tracks that Dave may write lyrics and melodies for, you have the potential of a full album.

      New music may be the reason why Dave is interested. Its entirely possible, while he may not have been down to 5150 yet, Dave has heard some of the new stuff Ed's been working on.

      If Dave thought it was shit, there's no way he would be considering coming back. But if he thought there was something there, he'd be down with it.

      Besides what Ed has done on his own (porn soundtrack), we haven't heard any of this *new* VH stuff.

      But we do know that the stuff they recorded in 2000 was reported by Dave and Mike (and The Guy ) as kick-ass, classic VH material.

      The thing we have to take into account is that Ed's track record WITHOUT Dave has been SHIT.

      With him (ie: MWM, CGTSNM), its been great.
      Good lord, Roth's interest in this is financial and maybe to relive the glory days.

      Why on earth you believe that Ed's playing or writing are different for VH than for something else is beyond me. EVH is done. The playing on those porn tracks is awful, horribly out of tune in several spots and has the most awful guitar sound I have ever heard. The BOBW tracks aren't much better. The last tracks with Roth are TEN YEARS ago. Completely irrelevant in terms of what EVH is today.

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      • Vinnie Velvet
        Full Member Status

        • Feb 2004
        • 4584

        Originally posted by TheArchitect
        Why on earth you believe that Ed's playing or writing are different for VH than for something else is beyond me. EVH is done.
        That's the way 'band chemistry' works my friend.

        Dave and Eddie produce a different dimesion together.

        THAT we found out was still evident in 1996 and from what Dave and Mike said, that was still evident from what they did in 2000.

        Even in EVH's recent years of drunkeness, I think that's STILL evident.

        But we shall see.

        Its all speculation until we hear the first note played and sung from a 'new' song.
        =V V=
        ole No.1 The finest
        EAT US AND SMILE

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        • TheArchitect
          Groupie
          • Oct 2006
          • 97

          Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
          That's the way 'band chemistry' works my friend.

          Dave and Eddie produce a different dimesion together.

          THAT we found out was still evident in 1996 and from what Dave and Mike said, that was still evident from what they did in 2000.

          Even in EVH's recent years of drunkeness, I think that's STILL evident.

          But we shall see.

          Its all speculation until we hear the first note played and sung from a 'new' song.
          I have been in bands for 15 plus years. I know all about band chemistry. I also know that you are who you are as a player and an artist. Those don't change regardless of your situation.

          You are comparing Ed from 10 years ago to Ed today. apples and oranges

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          • Vinnie Velvet
            Full Member Status

            • Feb 2004
            • 4584

            Originally posted by TheArchitect
            I have been in bands for 15 plus years. I know all about band chemistry. I also know that you are who you are as a player and an artist. Those don't change regardless of your situation.

            You are comparing Ed from 10 years ago to Ed today. apples and oranges
            Alright alright.

            We haven't heard "Ed today" and I'm sorry, scoring porn ain't gonna make me think otherwise until we hear him with Dave and Al.

            That is all.
            =V V=
            ole No.1 The finest
            EAT US AND SMILE

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            • Jimmy Jingles
              Veteran
              • Mar 2004
              • 1611

              Originally posted by Vinnie Velvet
              That's the way 'band chemistry' works my friend.

              Dave and Eddie produce a different dimesion together.

              THAT we found out was still evident in 1996 and from what Dave and Mike said, that was still evident from what they did in 2000.

              Even in EVH's recent years of drunkeness, I think that's STILL evident.

              But we shall see.

              Its all speculation until we hear the first note played and sung from a 'new' song.



              I 100% agree with you on the "band chemistry" angle.

              I do think that when they are in the studio together, something just clicks and they fucking rock the shit out.
              23. That's the number of people Mr. T has pitied in the time it has taken you to read this sentence.

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              • The Guy
                Banned
                • Sep 2006
                • 59

                Let me clarify a couple of things.

                The problem between Ed and Mike goes back a long time. The Other Half thing did not have as much influence on this as many think.
                Ed isn't looking to reunite Van Halen for the sake of getting back to the past. It is about moving forward as a band and having some fun again.
                The timing is just right right now to make this change.
                You can accept it or not, but believe me, its going to be damn good.
                Its a whole new chapter of Van Halen, its a glimpse of the past and a look to the future all at the same time. All while spending time with his son doing something they both love together.

                Someone posted somewhere that I should post over at that other site fans hang out.
                The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.
                Fuck them, I don't need that. I can come here every so often or when something new can be reported without the harrassment. Plus all of you long suffering Dave fans are finally getting what you have wanted for a very long time. Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth together again in 2007, not to mention the likely hall of fame induction.

                Keep the faith my friends, its going to be fun.

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                • Jimmy Jingles
                  Veteran
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1611

                  Originally posted by The Guy
                  Let me clarify a couple of things.

                  The problem between Ed and Mike goes back a long time. The Other Half thing did not have as much influence on this as many think.
                  Ed isn't looking to reunite Van Halen for the sake of getting back to the past. It is about moving forward as a band and having some fun again.
                  The timing is just right right now to make this change.
                  You can accept it or not, but believe me, its going to be damn good.
                  Its a whole new chapter of Van Halen, its a glimpse of the past and a look to the future all at the same time. All while spending time with his son doing something they both love together.

                  Someone posted somewhere that I should post over at that other site fans hang out.
                  The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.
                  Fuck them, I don't need that. I can come here every so often or when something new can be reported without the harrassment. Plus all of you long suffering Dave fans are finally getting what you have wanted for a very long time. Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth together again in 2007, not to mention the likely hall of fame induction.

                  Keep the faith my friends, its going to be fun.


                  Kick ass post my friend!

                  Agreed about the 'other sites'. Fuck them and their anal retentive mods.

                  One part of me is pissed at Ed for not letting Mike be a part of this...while the other part is giddy as fuck to see Ed and Dave on the same stage again.

                  I still have serious doubts about a 15 year old having the stamina to last through a major tour.

                  Keep us posted!
                  23. That's the number of people Mr. T has pitied in the time it has taken you to read this sentence.

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                  • PlexiBrown
                    Commando
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1264

                    The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.
                    Ain't that the truth! There are also quite a few Hagar ass kissers over there. Hagar fans all share the same thing. They believe that their insane beliefs are the truth. They are all delusional.
                    And God heard the voice of the lad. Then the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said to her, “What ails you, Hagar? Genesis 21:17

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                    • Vinnie Velvet
                      Full Member Status

                      • Feb 2004
                      • 4584

                      Originally posted by The Guy
                      Let me clarify a couple of things.

                      The problem between Ed and Mike goes back a long time. The Other Half thing did not have as much influence on this as many think.
                      Ed isn't looking to reunite Van Halen for the sake of getting back to the past. It is about moving forward as a band and having some fun again.
                      The timing is just right right now to make this change.
                      You can accept it or not, but believe me, its going to be damn good.
                      Its a whole new chapter of Van Halen, its a glimpse of the past and a look to the future all at the same time. All while spending time with his son doing something they both love together.

                      Someone posted somewhere that I should post over at that other site fans hang out.
                      The reason I don't is because of the crap they say and that if you don't agree with the mods one hundred percent they treat you like shit.
                      Fuck them, I don't need that. I can come here every so often or when something new can be reported without the harrassment. Plus all of you long suffering Dave fans are finally getting what you have wanted for a very long time. Eddie Van Halen and David Lee Roth together again in 2007, not to mention the likely hall of fame induction.

                      Keep the faith my friends, its going to be fun.
                      Moving forward as a band? I find that somewhat hard to digest. Everytime, Ed has wanted to "move forward", its done more harm than good.

                      He wanted to "move on" with Gary Cherone when all of us wanted Dave and look what happened? Its been downhill ever since.

                      I'm optimistic, the Guy. Yes, it is encouraging to hear that Ed and Dave may be on stage again.

                      I guess its not gonna be billed as a "Reunion" then. Can we call this Van Halen Mach 1.2?



                      I hope you're right.

                      I want VH to be FUN again. To have that humour, to not take themselves so seriously.

                      I want to see the FUN videos again and so on, with a modern twist of course.

                      All those elements were diluted when Hagar joined and completely fell off the map by '96.

                      Let us hope for the best.
                      Last edited by Vinnie Velvet; 11-10-2006, 05:41 PM.
                      =V V=
                      ole No.1 The finest
                      EAT US AND SMILE

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                      • TheArchitect
                        Groupie
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 97

                        If Ed wants to do something with his kid, fine. Wants to include Roth? Fine. But why under the Van Halen Banner? The Fans of VH showed him what they thought of the last attempt to "move forward" with III. As I recall, Ed said that III was "Damn Good" (Not so much really)Why is he quoting Roth Lyrics by the way? :confused:

                        This is not going to be accepted by a significant percentage. Just like Hagar was not accepted. EVH's claims that commercial success don't concern him ring very hollow. An EVH solo record would have a much better opportunity than than this because it would sidestep all of the VH shit/baggage and be a new start. Especially if its not about the past as you say the only reason to involve Roth or the VH banner is to try to garner sales/get commercial success. If thats not the point then why?

                        Ed needs to come down off the mountain for a while and discover whats happened to world while he has been asleep in my opinion.

                        The PR/Spin machine for this band has been broken for at least a decade. Repairs do not appear imminent
                        Last edited by TheArchitect; 11-10-2006, 06:16 PM.

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                        • ppg960
                          Sniper
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 991

                          [Why drag Roth into this if Ed is going to just going to ruin it for everyone involved? [/B][/QUOTE]

                          I agree. I wouldn't get involved with Ed now considering the state he's in.

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                          • PlexiBrown
                            Commando
                            • Mar 2006
                            • 1264

                            If Ed wants to do something with his kid, fine. Wants to include Roth? Fine. But why under the Van Halen Banner?
                            I would rather see Wolfgang in the band under the Van Halen banner then Spammy.
                            And God heard the voice of the lad. Then the angel of God called to Hagar out of heaven, and said to her, “What ails you, Hagar? Genesis 21:17

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                            • ThrillsNSpills
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 6627

                              So The Guy,

                              there will be a new CD from all this?
                              april 17th, maybe?

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                              • Halen High
                                Commando
                                • Jul 2004
                                • 1231

                                Thanks for the update.

                                I've been checking out the reaction to all this on other sites, and it seems to me there are a lot of Sammy Hagar fans suffering right now. Interesting how some people can accept Van Halen without DLR, but can't accept them without MA.

                                "it's a glimpse of the past and a look to the future"

                                That's exactly what there approach should be. Preferably with Mike, but if not then I'm willing to stay optimistic. There's no way Dave would get involved in this if it was going to be anything less than awesome.

                                Come on people, Sammy Hagar is history. That alone is worth celebrating!

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