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  • Zing!
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2363

    #91
    Wouldn't mind hearing Wolfie do 'Sunday Afternoon In The Park' as a sort-of bass solo with his Uncle Al. Otherwise, I agree - bass solos make about as much sense as two basses on 'Big Bottom.'
    My karma just ran over your dogma.

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    • DLR Bridge
      ROCKSTAR

      • Mar 2011
      • 5479

      #92
      Originally posted by Catfish
      Every single classic VH show was FLAWED because of the bass solo.

      If you need to have a bass solo, which you never do, why fucking put it after the second song after they'd built up incredible momentum, just to see it all fade away? Thousands of people standing, then SITTING back down? THAT SHIT ALONE is reason why DLR is the greatest ever, having to re-rev the crowd like that.

      Good riddance, fat boy!

      Sent from my SGH-T989 using Tapatalk 2
      If I'm not mistaken, the theatric bass solos were Dave's idea. Just sayin'.

      Yeah, a bass solo is a silly concept, but back in the day, there needed to be "time-outs" for all band members to partake in an extracuricular activity or 2...or 5.

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      • Light Em' Up!
        Veteran
        • Mar 2012
        • 1848

        #93
        Originally posted by loucap81
        Actually the drum solo came after the 2nd song. The bass solo was somewhere in the middle, except for the 1980 Invasion tour when thankfully, there was no bass solo. Both are really stupid though. At least Alex has a distinct style though unlike MA. While Alex also didn't write any of the songs, I can't imagine the albums sounding the same without him. He has a rare warmth that very few drummers had, the only other one I can think of off the top of my head was John Bonham. Anyway Van Halen II and Fair Warning especially highlight Alex's sound. Maybe they never did "Dirty Movies" in concert because Eddie can't play both lead guitar AND bass like he did on the studio version of that one.
        I love hearing Alex's drum solos...like you said Lou, he has this really different "thing" about the way he plays and as far as solos go, I dig hearing him...interesting thought on "Dirty Movies"...
        Told ya I was comin' back... Say you missed me... Say it like ya mean it!

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        • DLR Bridge
          ROCKSTAR

          • Mar 2011
          • 5479

          #94
          Originally posted by Zing!
          Wouldn't mind hearing Wolfie do 'Sunday Afternoon In The Park' as a sort-of bass solo with his Uncle Al. Otherwise, I agree - bass solos make about as much sense as two basses on 'Big Bottom.'
          Mike did SAITP on the VH III tour (put down your weapons!) and Big Bottom had 3 basses.

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          • SNIPER
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jun 2004
            • 2625

            #95
            Originally posted by loucap81
            Actually the drum solo came after the 2nd song. The bass solo was somewhere in the middle, except for the 1980 Invasion tour when thankfully, there was no bass solo. Both are really stupid though. At least Alex has a distinct style though unlike MA. While Alex also didn't write any of the songs, I can't imagine the albums sounding the same without him. He has a rare warmth that very few drummers had, the only other one I can think of off the top of my head was John Bonham. Anyway Van Halen II and Fair Warning especially highlight Alex's sound. Maybe they never did "Dirty Movies" in concert because Eddie can't play both lead guitar AND bass like he did on the studio version of that one.
            I love Big Al's solo's and playing. He does indeed have a Bonham flair to his playing but Al took it up a notch. Imagine if Ed had no brother and how VH would have sounded if someone like Banali or other drummers from the 70's Sunset Strip scene was palying for them. OMG!! Would not have been the same. VH needed an Alex as much as they needed a Dave and Ed. Bass player? Meh, could have been anyone really. ...But yes, glad it was Mikey.

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            • Zing!
              Veteran
              • Oct 2011
              • 2363

              #96
              Originally posted by DLR Bridge
              and Big Bottom had 3 basses.
              Which still makes more sense than a bass solo.
              My karma just ran over your dogma.

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              • DLR Bridge
                ROCKSTAR

                • Mar 2011
                • 5479

                #97
                Originally posted by SNIPER
                VH needed an Alex as much as they needed a Dave and Ed. Bass player? Meh, could have been anyone really. ...But yes, glad it was Mikey.
                I remember back in high-school, cruising around in my '76 Cutlass blasting the shit out of my Jensen speakers with VH I when all of the sudden, right at the start of Atomic Punk, a speaker blew out. The one that played Ed. I gained an aweful lot of respect and appreciation for Mike that day when I was forced to focus on just how viscious and strong his attack was. He played brutally on the money and in the pocket with just enough, but never too much showy flair. Yeah, I'm glad it was Mikey too.

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                • TJMKID
                  Veteran
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1533

                  #98
                  Originally posted by SNIPER
                  I love Big Al's solo's and playing. He does indeed have a Bonham flair to his playing but Al took it up a notch. Imagine if Ed had no brother and how VH would have sounded if someone like Banali or other drummers from the 70's Sunset Strip scene was palying for them. OMG!! Would not have been the same. VH needed an Alex as much as they needed a Dave and Ed. Bass player? Meh, could have been anyone really. ...But yes, glad it was Mikey.

                  Actually ---- one of the few bright spots from the Van Hagar years was this 3-piece jam ---- kinda wish they would do it now instead of Alex's solo:

                  [0:28 to 2:10 is the segment to watch]


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                  • SNIPER
                    Crazy Ass Mofo
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 2625

                    #99
                    Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                    I remember back in high-school, cruising around in my '76 Cutlass blasting the shit out of my Jensen speakers with VH I when all of the sudden, right at the start of Atomic Punk, a speaker blew out. The one that played Ed. I gained an aweful lot of respect and appreciation for Mike that day when I was forced to focus on just how viscious and strong his attack was. He played brutally on the money and in the pocket with just enough, but never too much showy flair. Yeah, I'm glad it was Mikey too.
                    Oh yeah. We all have heard it that way. I used to turn one side off to hear it on occasion. Mike had some ripping bass lines on the early stuff for sure especially during the guitar solos of all places.

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                    • Nitro Express
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Aug 2004
                      • 32942

                      Nice jam there. Nice to not have Hagar squawking all over it. Van Halen is the musical version of this.

                      No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                      • DLR Bridge
                        ROCKSTAR

                        • Mar 2011
                        • 5479

                        Funny you should post that video. I recall reading an Ed interview from that time where by he said Sammy's lower spoken word verse vocals didn't come through well in arena sound systems, so they bagged him and did this. If only they bagged him for the rest of the show as well!! That actually is a sweet riff. Ruined by that guy they picked.

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                        • SNIPER
                          Crazy Ass Mofo
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 2625

                          Originally posted by TJMKID
                          Actually ---- one of the few bright spots from the Van Hagar years was this 3-piece jam ---- kinda wish they would do it now instead of Alex's solo:

                          [0:28 to 2:10 is the segment to watch]


                          Man that Alex is a monster player. DAMN!! ...But I am glad he stopped doing that build up roll thing in his solos. That kinda got old.

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                          • Nitro Express
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Aug 2004
                            • 32942

                            Originally posted by DLR Bridge
                            I remember back in high-school, cruising around in my '76 Cutlass blasting the shit out of my Jensen speakers with VH I when all of the sudden, right at the start of Atomic Punk, a speaker blew out. The one that played Ed. I gained an aweful lot of respect and appreciation for Mike that day when I was forced to focus on just how viscious and strong his attack was. He played brutally on the money and in the pocket with just enough, but never too much showy flair. Yeah, I'm glad it was Mikey too.
                            I'm in trouble with my wife because I just blew the Bose speakers in her car. What shit those are. I use to slam the Jensens I had in my BMW and they never got spanked. They just kept taking the punishment.
                            No! You can't have the keys to the wine cellar!

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                            • DLR Bridge
                              ROCKSTAR

                              • Mar 2011
                              • 5479

                              Originally posted by Nitro Express
                              I'm in trouble with my wife because I just blew the Bose speakers in her car. What shit those are. I use to slam the Jensens I had in my BMW and they never got spanked. They just kept taking the punishment.
                              Wow, Bose must not be all they're built up to be. I went through 2 pair of Bose ear buds already. I'm done with them.

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                              • SNIPER
                                Crazy Ass Mofo
                                • Jun 2004
                                • 2625

                                Wow, I had a stock Bose sub in my old Lexus SC400 that I blew too. Not made for hard rock I guess.

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