Lessons Learned: The 2012 Van Halen Tour

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  • Zing!
    Veteran
    • Oct 2011
    • 2363

    Originally posted by ELVIS
    I'd definitely say that's a good example of "ass-kissing hyperbole"...:
    For you, natch. But that's how the man's lyrics impacted me. I can't remember the last time I read along to lyrics to a song by any recording artist, or tried to decipher (or even cared) what was being said. Point is, you'd be more inclined to call Dave's effort on ADKOT impressive than dull, no? Hell, I'm still quoting phrases from various songs all this time later. To me that's a sign of a well written album. Obviously this is a case of someone stirring shit, but lambasting Roth's effort as Hagaresque is worth voicing an opinion and facing the flames. Happy New Year holy shit where's the Tylenol?
    My karma just ran over your dogma.

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    • ZahZoo
      ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

      • Jan 2004
      • 9172

      Originally posted by Va Beach VH Fan
      Most of the time they played four new tunes (She's the Woman, Tattoo, China Town, The Trouble With Never), that's not enough ??
      No... it's not enough. Keep those 4 and add at least 3 more. Take nothing out of the set-list and it's a total net add of 15 minutes tops to the show length. No big deal.

      Stay Frosty screams live performance all over it. Either add it to the Ice Cream Man spot or better yet... make it the 2nd Encore song to send everybody home in the right frame of mind!!!

      Dave needs to go back and work with the vocal coach he used to prepare for Strummin With the Devil. That influence was clearly with him on the 07/08 tour when he actually "sang" all the songs rather than scream them.

      Dave also needs to get better in-ear monitors or a better monitor mix. They have so much headroom in their sound system there is no fucking logical reason he needs to work that hard to project his voice live with a regular mic or headset mic. The way he approached it in 2012 totally killed his voice and his performance... it's no fucking wonder the blower rants occurred. Dave was already 90% over revving his vocal motor so any irritant just compounded it more.

      The jackass that did the final master on ADKOT needs to be shot or publicly ass-fucked and humiliated... He ruined a monumental record. Take the original recordings back into a studio... hire an engineer, like Eddie Kramer, who can master a recording to 70's/80's analog standards with real air in the mix and no gawd-damned ear fucking compression added. Then do a full product recall and replace that crap they sold us.
      "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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      • sonrisa salvaje
        Veteran
        • Jun 2005
        • 2098

        Originally posted by Kristy
        Hansen!



        Mmmbop, ba duba dop ba du bop, ba duba dop ba du bop, ba duba dop ba du yeah
        This photo makes me wonder if Hansen were the children of Nelson.
        RIDE TO LIVE, LIVE TO RIDE
        LET `EM ROLL ONE MORE TIME

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        • FORD
          ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

          • Jan 2004
          • 59641

          Originally posted by sonrisa salvaje
          This photo makes me wonder if Hansen were the children of Nelson.
          Still say the oldest one was the real life inspiration for Butthead.

          Eat Us And Smile

          Cenk For America 2024!!

          Justice Democrats


          "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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          • Never was
            Foot Soldier
            • May 2012
            • 628

            He was spot on during that Strumming record and sang really well. Not for Dave but for anyone he sang well period.
            The tour support team was awful and underprepared, it was amatuer hour and completely right about too much headroom. Also why the hell was no one assigned to keep the blowers off after it was an issue for the first time. Just silly stuff, for example much of their merchandise arrived late etc... they were just not ready to go primetime with that crew.

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            • Kristy
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Aug 2004
              • 16747

              Don't be harpin' on Hansen!

              Dat dere's fightun wurds

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              • Kristy
                DIAMOND STATUS
                • Aug 2004
                • 16747

                Originally posted by ThrillsNSpills
                True enough!

                Anyone can just scroll past comments if they want.

                No need to be baited into a response.

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                • sonrisa salvaje
                  Veteran
                  • Jun 2005
                  • 2098

                  Originally posted by Kristy
                  Don't be harpin' on Hansen!

                  Dat dere's fightun wurds
                  Dey betta packa lunch cuz we gone be a fightun all night.
                  RIDE TO LIVE, LIVE TO RIDE
                  LET `EM ROLL ONE MORE TIME

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                  • Kristy
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 16747

                    They pack hair gel and one annoying drummer. Time for some jealousy



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                    • DLR Bridge
                      ROCKSTAR

                      • Mar 2011
                      • 5479

                      Originally posted by Never was
                      ...Also why the hell was no one assigned to keep the blowers off after it was an issue for the first time?
                      Sure fire sign it was an excuse/crutch that became part of the show. Ed, Al & Wolf just stood around twiddlin' their thumbs waiting for him to get the "rant" out of his system night after night.

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                      • ThrillsNSpills
                        ROTH ARMY ELITE
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 6627

                        Originally posted by ZahZoo
                        The jackass that did the final master on ADKOT needs to be shot or publicly ass-fucked and humiliated... He ruined a monumental record..
                        So very very true !
                        sign of the times or just blatant incompetence?

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                        • DLR Bridge
                          ROCKSTAR

                          • Mar 2011
                          • 5479

                          Was that Ross Hogarth's doing or someone elses?

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                          • ThrillsNSpills
                            ROTH ARMY ELITE
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 6627

                            Marlee Matlin perhaps, or Sam Hagar

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                            • chuckjitsu
                              Head Fluffer
                              • Apr 2012
                              • 321

                              Originally posted by ZahZoo
                              Dave also needs to get better in-ear monitors or a better monitor mix. They have so much headroom in their sound system there is no fucking logical reason he needs to work that hard to project his voice live with a regular mic or headset mic.
                              This is exactly what I was referring to in an earlier post. Almost seemed like he couldn't hear himself properly or felt he wasn't being "heard" properly over the music and/or background vocals. Whatever the reason, you're right- Dave shouldn't have needed to work so hard to get the vocals across.

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                              • TJMKID
                                Veteran
                                • Mar 2004
                                • 1533

                                Originally posted by envy_me
                                Sammy does creepy lyrics. Then he smiles and licks his fingers. God he's gross. And creepy.

                                Did you ever see the "Live: Right Here, Right Now" concert DVD ??

                                Sambo creates that creepy "vagina fingers" hand symbol and then licks it onstage --- supposedly like he's simulating cunnilingus --- but on his own hands !! You can actually see the slobber dripping down his wrists because he's enjoying it so much.

                                That's the kind of creepy that deserves a hospital psych admission. Perhaps a bullet to the head.


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