Lessons Learned: The 2012 Van Halen Tour

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  • 78/84 guy
    Crazy Ass Mofo
    • Apr 2005
    • 2727

    Originally posted by DLR Bridge
    That's not necessarily true. I'll admit Kristy's opinions are harsh and cutting at times, but like Terry said before, I can see where a fan of the classic VH might say things along these lines.
    What the fuck do you mean AT TIMES ??!!

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    • envy_me
      Swedish Love Pump
      ROTH ARMY SUPREME
      • Dec 2010
      • 7180

      Originally posted by 78/84 guy
      What the fuck do you mean AT TIMES ??!!
      It's obvious she's just trolling. Why would anybody take her seriously.
      The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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      • Carloscda
        Foot Soldier
        • Jan 2009
        • 666

        One thing for sure and as much as some of you guys hate him Big Al was the only one consistent since day one!
        Listening to old boots whenever the band went off a bit it was Al who reeled them back in!

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        • DLR Bridge
          ROCKSTAR

          • Mar 2011
          • 5479

          Originally posted by 78/84 guy
          What the fuck do you mean AT TIMES ??!!
          I'll admit, I do find Kristy to be particularly harsh with her music critisisms, but rather than do the potty-mouth-throw-down exchange (that stuff's exhausting to read, let alone take part in), I prefer to enguage in a conversation that might yield the reason for the harshness. I gotta say, even though I disagree with her stance on Dave's lyrics, I do see where she's coming from with regards to her reception to ADKOT. I've got friends who are fans of classic VH that got to see them live back in the day who weren't so receptive to Truth either. There's always going to be different opinions.

          Now, if she were one of the assholes saying Dave is fucking homo for enjoying dancing, that'd be a whole 'nother ball o' wax.

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          • DLR Bridge
            ROCKSTAR

            • Mar 2011
            • 5479

            Originally posted by Carloscda
            One thing for sure and as much as some of you guys hate him Big Al was the only one consistent since day one!
            Listening to old boots whenever the band went off a bit it was Al who reeled them back in!
            He is one solid mofo on the kit. Too bad his back is all banged up, and has been for years now. He's eased into the role of a more finesseful player which is fine, but the bashing out and and complicated fills of the old days were nothing short of fantastic.

            I was listenening to Honolulu Baby the other day, which has a particularly quiet guitar volume at times, and was noticing some absolutely top notch fill work during the end of the guitar solo. He held it all together and sprinkled pepper on it for added flavor. One hell of a cook!

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            • Heater
              Foot Soldier
              • Nov 2010
              • 508

              Sam's hand- vagina was unsettling, any moreso than Dave's JD ejaculation schtick? Thankfully he put that to bed. Sam's outfits were pretty silly sometimes, but what's up with Dave's big hat fetish? The blower rants felt staged, but it made him look like a tough guy, much like when he " broke up" that fight which was really him just yelling at 2 idiots from a safe distance while security did the heavy lifting. Dave's recent lyrics were pretty good but grandiose for the sake of being grandiose here and there. "My karma just ran over your dogma" has been on bumperstickers for years.

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              • DLR Bridge
                ROCKSTAR

                • Mar 2011
                • 5479

                Originally posted by Heater
                "My karma just ran over your dogma" has been on bumperstickers for years.
                I seriously doubt that it's Dave's intention to snow anyone into thinking he wrote that particular catch phrase. He uses them all of the time. Part of his writing style.

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                • TJMKID
                  Veteran
                  • Mar 2004
                  • 1533

                  Originally posted by Heater
                  Sam's hand-vagina was unsettling, any moreso than Dave's JD ejaculation schtick? Thankfully he put that to bed.

                  The big difference is that Dave's onstage schtick is funny and cool --- and with Sam it's just pathetic and creepy.

                  I was at Dave's show in Scranton, PA in 1999 and when he started jacking off the JD bottle I saw 3 or 4 ladies in the front row with tongues outstretched trying to catch some of Dave's whiskey "load" on their lips. God only knows what he was giving them after the show in his tour bus.

                  I seriously doubt any female was getting turned on by watching a 46 yr. old Sambo licking his "vagina fingers" hand symbol. They probably wanted to report him to police as a suspected sexual predator.


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                  • envy_me
                    Swedish Love Pump
                    ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                    • Dec 2010
                    • 7180

                    Originally posted by TJMKID
                    The big difference is that Dave's onstage schtick is funny and cool --- and with Sam it's just pathetic and creepy.

                    I was at Dave's show in Scranton, PA in 1999 and when he started jacking off the JD bottle I saw 3 or 4 ladies in the front row with tongues outstretched trying to catch some of Dave's whiskey "load" on their lips. God only knows what he was giving them after the show in his tour bus.

                    I seriously doubt any female was getting turned on by watching a 46 yr. old Sambo licking his "vagina fingers" hand symbol. They probably wanted to report him to police as a suspected sexual predator.


                    His vagina fingers are just gross. So is when he's licking his fingers...
                    The heart is on the left. The blood is red.

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                    • Va Beach VH Fan
                      ROTH ARMY FOUNDER
                      • Dec 2003
                      • 17913

                      Originally posted by TJMKID
                      The big difference is that Dave's onstage schtick is funny and cool --- and with Sam it's just pathetic and creepy.

                      I was at Dave's show in Scranton, PA in 1999 and when he started jacking off the JD bottle I saw 3 or 4 ladies in the front row with tongues outstretched trying to catch some of Dave's whiskey "load" on their lips. God only knows what he was giving them after the show in his tour bus.

                      I seriously doubt any female was getting turned on by watching a 46 yr. old Sambo licking his "vagina fingers" hand symbol. They probably wanted to report him to police as a suspected sexual predator.


                      Don't forget continually signing autographs onstage, total bush league...
                      Eat Us And Smile - The Originals

                      "I have a very belligerent enthusiasm or an enthusiastic belligerence. I’m an intellectual slut." - David Lee Roth

                      "We are part of the, not just the culture, but the geography. Van Halen music goes along with like fries with the burger." - David Lee Roth

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                      • BumBahDeeDah
                        Head Fluffer
                        • Mar 2004
                        • 292

                        Kristy just wants attention.

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                        • BumBahDeeDah
                          Head Fluffer
                          • Mar 2004
                          • 292

                          I'm lazy today.

                          Happy New Year!

                          Dave's gotta attack the vocal issues. I like to think that he is has already and is ready to go. He was top notch in 07-08, and in '12 the Van Halens were. Can we get it all together for the next go-round?

                          Almost a year later, if there's a rule that says you can only have a "Six-Pack" of CVH, ADKOT bumps anything but Fair Warning.

                          Money-grab, my ass. For money, they could just tour and play twelve hits.
                          Last edited by BumBahDeeDah; 01-01-2013, 08:12 PM.

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                          • Terry
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 12133

                            Originally posted by TJMKID
                            Which is why I wanna choke out anyone who says --- "It's all about Eddie"

                            If it was really "all about Eddie" --- why doesn't Van Hagar and Van Cherone hold up as well as Roth-era?

                            Seems like some people just can't admit that Dave's swagger and humor is all over those classic songs --- and he also brings out the aggressive side of Ed. Can't duplicate that with another singer/songwriter.


                            After Dave left, I could actually hear Van Halen getting more and more complacent. The sense of competition within the band was gone. Almost like they were victims of too much success and starting to buy into the mainstream media hype that Eddie was a genius guitar player who was being held back by David Lee Roth's frontman antics.

                            I'd agree 100% that the friction between Roth and the rest of the band brought out the best in them. Shit, even take a tune like Me Wise Magic, which displayed more energy and drive than the band had since 1984...is it any coincidence that the only Van Hagar tune which came close to approaching that level of fury was Humans Being, recorded at a time when Hagar and the Van Halens were at each other's throats?
                            Scramby eggs and bacon.

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                            • knuckleboner
                              Crazy Ass Mofo
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 2927

                              [QUOTE=Zing!;1725680]In 2013 I'd like to hear the rest of ADKOT live. This includes Blood And Fire done properly (without the headset) and more surprise deep cuts - even if it means DLR reading the lyrics from a crib sheet.

                              QUOTE]

                              we got normal-mike blood and fire in DC. the knuckleboner was not disappointed.

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                              • ELVIS
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2003
                                • 44120

                                Originally posted by DLR Bridge

                                Now, if she were one of the assholes saying Dave is fucking homo for enjoying dancing, that'd be a whole 'nother ball o' wax.
                                Dave was dancing way before people started thinking he was a homo...

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