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  • DONNIEP
    DIAMOND STATUS
    • Mar 2004
    • 13373

    Originally posted by Seshmeister
    Daddy wouldn't allow that.
    You got that right.
    American by birth. Southern by the grace of God.

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    • ashstralia
      ROTH ARMY ELITE
      • Feb 2004
      • 6566

      The problem is the bilder bankers owned everything back in my day.
      I once cleaned out a spa Arnie was in.

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      • Angel
        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
        • Jan 2004
        • 7481

        Wolf grew up in a rather fucked up environment. Good chance he used food for comfort when mommy and daddy were fighting over the last line on the table.

        Do you think shaming someone is productive?

        Glad you're all so fucking perfect...


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        • Dave's Bitch
          ROCKSTAR

          • Apr 2005
          • 5293

          Aww, Wolfie had a tough time growing up?, big deal. Show me someone who has never had a tough time in their life, you will be pretty hard pressed. It is hardly shaming, I'm stating facts. in 10 years he could have a host of health problems. Would wrapping him in cotton wool and feeling sorry for him be more productive?. He is not a kid anymore, he is 24. He should take responsibility for his own health and ensure he will not suffer from the many, many ill effects obesity can cause.

          You would think seeing the results of not treating your body right on his father, Wolfie would be the picture of health
          I really love you baby, I love what you've got
          Let's get together we can, Get hot

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          • ashstralia
            ROTH ARMY ELITE
            • Feb 2004
            • 6566

            No offence, but if someone picked on one of your kids, we'd never hear the end of it.

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            • fryingdutchman
              Full Member Status

              • Feb 2005
              • 4133

              Genetics can really be a bitch...and Wolf is clearly his mother's son in virtually every way.

              If he had more of Ed's genes, he'd probably be the lean machine Ed has always been. But he might also have the addictive personality and end up fighting the same drug/alcohol demons.

              Unfortunately, I think he was a little bit fucked either way genetically. That said....DB has a point that Wolf is old enough to recognize issues and take corrective action if he wants to.

              However, despite his weight issues, he does seem to be pretty happy and well adjusted. So, he has that going for him. It might be a few generations of Van Halen/Bertinelli spawn before things get balanced out....
              Originally posted by perilouspete
              fryingdutchman you pretty much own everyone.....sick comebacks, well put. top class wit.

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              • fryingdutchman
                Full Member Status

                • Feb 2005
                • 4133

                Ultimately, all I care about is if Wolf can hold up his end musically...and I think he can. He doesn't have to be sexy too....

                Seriously....look at some of the gargoyles that have become rock gods.

                Keith Richards, Mick Mars, etc.....

                Might be a fun thread in its own right....
                Originally posted by perilouspete
                fryingdutchman you pretty much own everyone.....sick comebacks, well put. top class wit.

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                • Dave's Bitch
                  ROCKSTAR

                  • Apr 2005
                  • 5293

                  Originally posted by ashstralia
                  No offence, but if someone picked on one of your kids, we'd never hear the end of it.
                  Didn't realize I'd picked on Angels kid?. I really don't understand why some people seem to have taken offence to what I have said. I'm not being malicious, I'm stating facts . Also, I'm not about to sit and cry about my personal life on a Van Halen website to what are essentially a bunch of strangers.


                  Genetics can only carry so much. There are essentially three body types. Wolf is likely and Endomorph (meaning he naturally looks bulkier).

                  At the end of the day If I was Wolf, I would take better care of my health. If Wolf is happy to run the risk of (easily preventable) ill health, what ever.
                  I really love you baby, I love what you've got
                  Let's get together we can, Get hot

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                  • ashstralia
                    ROTH ARMY ELITE
                    • Feb 2004
                    • 6566

                    Sweetie, you justify it as best you can.

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                    • Dave's Bitch
                      ROCKSTAR

                      • Apr 2005
                      • 5293

                      Originally posted by fryingdutchman
                      Ultimately, all I care about is if Wolf can hold up his end musically...and I think he can. He doesn't have to be sexy too....

                      Seriously....look at some of the gargoyles that have become rock gods.

                      Keith Richards, Mick Mars, etc.....

                      Might be a fun thread in its own right....
                      Hop to it, dutch
                      I really love you baby, I love what you've got
                      Let's get together we can, Get hot

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                      • Angel
                        ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                        • Jan 2004
                        • 7481

                        Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
                        Didn't realize I'd picked on Angels kid?. I really don't understand why some people seem to have taken offence to what I have said. I'm not being malicious, I'm stating facts . Also, I'm not about to sit and cry about my personal life on a Van Halen website to what are essentially a bunch of strangers.


                        Genetics can only carry so much. There are essentially three body types. Wolf is likely and Endomorph (meaning he naturally looks bulkier).

                        At the end of the day If I was Wolf, I would take better care of my health. If Wolf is happy to run the risk of (easily preventable) ill health, what ever.
                        At the end of the day, you're not Wolf. I agree he needs to lose weight, but shaming does no good whatsoever...all that does is create worse self-esteem.

                        Wolf could easily have an eating disorder...very common for kids raised in environments like he grew up in is the point I was making....

                        Unless you've "walked a mile in his moccasins, STFU...




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                        • ZahZoo
                          ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                          • Jan 2004
                          • 9167

                          Y'all are being a bit harsh on the boy... Once he gets out and starts working for his dinner again he'll slim down just fine.

                          I doubt he'll ever achieve the Cambodian Stick Child skinny his daddy was sporting in 2004... But that's ok. That ain't healthy either. The root of this is... the work ethic the young man is surrounded by with his family. Crank a huge paycheck on stage or behind a camera for a few hours work... then take a year or two off. Most of us put on a few extra pounds every winter due to being cooped up indoors... our 3-4 months of down time is 18-24 for those folks...
                          "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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                          • Dave's Bitch
                            ROCKSTAR

                            • Apr 2005
                            • 5293

                            Originally posted by Angel
                            At the end of the day, you're not Wolf. I agree he needs to lose weight, but shaming does no good whatsoever...all that does is create worse self-esteem.

                            Wolf could easily have an eating disorder...very common for kids raised in environments like he grew up in is the point I was making....

                            Unless you've "walked a mile in his moccasins, STFU...




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                            So I'm not able to criticize a person unless I've lived their life?, what kind of backward way of thinking is that?. Using your logic I cannot judge a murderer, a pedophile, a terrorist, simply because I don't know what they have been through.

                            It is a lovely idea to try and live by, Angel. It is not a practical one at all
                            I really love you baby, I love what you've got
                            Let's get together we can, Get hot

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                            • ashstralia
                              ROTH ARMY ELITE
                              • Feb 2004
                              • 6566

                              Originally posted by Dave's Bitch
                              So I'm not able to criticize a person unless I've lived their life?, what kind of backward way of thinking is that?. Using your logic I cannot judge a murderer, a pedophile, a terrorist, simply because I don't know what they have been through.

                              It is a lovely idea to try and live by, Angel. It is not a practical one at all
                              Whoa!! Fucking awesome adjudication.
                              Yes, you're able to judge EVERYTHING.

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                              • Angel
                                ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                                • Jan 2004
                                • 7481

                                I model my practice on a strengths-based perspective. And it's not backwards thinking, it's called empathy...

                                I once knew a guy that did time for murder... He shot the bastard that raped his girlfriends 4 year old sister. So yeah, the back story is important when making a judgement.

                                And comparing body image to heinous criminal acts is just plain ridiculous...


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