IS SPAMMY's VOICE SHOT? More BS From the SISTERS!!!!

[zeronumber]

Originally posted by Big Train
That argument never held water from the first day they said it. A couple of songs on 5150 are in Drop D for chrissakes!! When Eddie was into the Steinberger Transtrem, he was dropping down all the time. The Wolfgangs all have the feature as well (forget what it is called) where you can drop the 6th string down a whole step as well.

All male vocalists lose their top end as they age, that was part of the "forget about dave" campaign 85-04. It's pretty sad that they put that much effort into something and have horribly failed 19 years in...

And? Didn't dave(and still does) sing in Ab, haivng instruments tunned to Eb? All of a sudden, Sammy sings In A, and it's a huge shock that that tunnings for his songs, go either a half step up or down? Big freaking deal.

[zeronumber]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
Here's a quick note for all you keeping score: Dave's Solo albums are all, or MOSTLY in STANDARD TUNING for guitar... Thank you, Ed! By the way, Sam Fucking Sucks.

Any VH song with Keyboards, tends to be in standard tunning.
I don't know if Eddy is talented enough to write music on the piano in keys different from A.

Guitar is easy, you can always change the tunning around...
But keyboards are something else.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Matt White
JUst illustrates the hypocrisy of the VH sisters. After hearing Spam on that DETROIT recording from just a couple of weeks ago, his voice is SO roached! His upper range is completely GONE. So, now he can't sing the Van Hagar power ballads correctly! No wonder EVH was so drunk on that tour! To have to play that shit AND the singer SUCKS?!?!
WOW!!! Talk about adding insult to injury!!!

Interesting! You know I've downloaded and listended to a few HAGAR live tracks just to hear for myself as to "how much of a better live singer he is" as compared to DAVE. This is the result of having several arguments with SHEEP in which they rightly state "well, you haven't heard the VAN HAGAR boots that I have," Well I did and HAGAR routinely sucks donkey dick! Okay, his first tour with the boys during the 5150 era (when he and ED had something to prove) HAGAR went the extra mile and sang his heart out with his screechy, raspy little annoying pipes! But listen to any song after that, beginning around the OWESUCKNOW2--Monsters of Spam tour.

SAM often may hit the notes and sing most of verses, but he sounds dull and lifeless and totally sucks the life out of that band! Very little inspiration, much like his career, which started off with a bang on MONTROSE, then fizzaled with his mail-it-in, cliche mentality! This guy is clearly just a follower.

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by zeronumber
Any VH song with Keyboards, tends to be in standard tunning.
I don't know if Eddy is talented enough to write music on the piano in keys different from A.

Guitar is easy, you can always change the tunning around...
But keyboards are something else.

Wow! NEWSFLASH! You can't change the tuning on keyboards! I've always thought you could. Why don't you make up some more horseshit fool?

[spmusicplyr]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
Yankee Rose isn't tuned down on the album.

You can use the start of YR to tune your guitar to concert tuning if you want - it's a G...

Cheers!

im sorry i wasnt clear on that.....in roths concerts now. taken down...

no it's in G on the album....thats my favorite key to jam in...g and f

[spmusicplyr]

Originally posted by zeronumber
Any VH song with Keyboards, tends to be in standard tunning.
I don't know if Eddy is talented enough to write music on the piano in keys different from A.

Guitar is easy, you can always change the tunning around...
But keyboards are something else.

haha keyboards are easier to take down than a guitar....
a guitar, you have to detune 1/2 a step for 6 strings...

on a keyboard? select transpose and hit the minus button. you're done.

[spmusicplyr]

you know in the 20's they made self transposing upright pianos where you moved a lever to a certain key signature...

[fret_buzz_blues]

Just look at all the shit that the Sisters spew out of their mouths! Too bad others I've seen at some other site can't look past the lies and the shit that the Sisters stuff into their brains. It's truly sad. Fucking sisters...

[canadiandlrgirl]

Originally posted by scottydabodi
Here's a quick note for all you keeping score: Dave's Solo albums are all, or MOSTLY in STANDARD TUNING for guitar... Thank you, Ed! By the way, Sam Fucking Sucks.

well i don't anything about the guitar (i've always wanted to learn how to play the guitar) but i do agree with you on the sam sucks part

[fret_buzz_blues]

Okay, well, what about Eruption? I know that was in Eb. And nobody sang on that! It's sad to see that the Sisters dig up the most retarded shit to bash Dave.

[spmusicplyr]

Originally posted by fret_buzz_blues
Okay, well, what about Eruption? I know that was in Eb. And nobody sang on that! It's sad to see that the Sisters dig up the most retarded shit to bash Dave.

wtf? that has no relevance to the human voice at all.

who cares if a music piece is in Eb, D, Db...whatever key...

[John Holmes]

Sammy Hagar is not a bad singer. His screeching voice gives me shivers and urges me to defecate, however, still he sings in tune and he is no Marilyn Manson or any of that wannabe singers crap.

Sammy has nothing unique in his voice. A lot of singers sing just like him, in Rock and Roll. Still, he can sing.

So the sisters bullshitting even Spammy, saying he's not like he used to like they said recently, just let you understand what kind of ego pricks the two dutch assholes are.

What about Eddie? Is he still like he used to? On the last tour, he SUCKED big time, hands down. Before opening his mouth to bullshit anybody, including fat Spammy, he should think about how shitty and novice he got at playing guitar, after years of using hands only to hold bottles of wine and cigarettes.

[zeronumber]

I still don't know what this has to do with anything...

"OMG, the song is tune down...Sammy sucks...ha ha" to me just proves how completely ignorant some people are towards vocal ranges.

In both the Van Halen and Van hagar era's, tunnings for the guitar varied in numerous soungs going from E, Eb, and D.

A lot of Roth songs are in Droped Eb in the CVH, yet, change to E every now and then for other songs. Does this mean Dave's voice cracked and changed more times than a teenager during puberty? no.

Plus, changing tunning doesn't instantly suggest a change in tonality.
Many guitarists change tunnings, while keeping different key signatures.

It helps to make pull off's, and Bare chords eaiser to play.
It's a pain in the ass to go on a downward progression, and have to hit the fourth fret when playing a melody, where as if you down tune, the fourth fret of a lower string, now becomes the same strings open.

[Matt White]

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[zeronumber]

Originally posted by Matt White
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Originally posted by Matt White
It ain't much, but this kind of SHIT GRINDS ME!!!!
Just got the Oct 2004 issue of GUITARWORLD MAGAZINE and it has TAB to that pile 'o' shit song "It's about Time". Holy SHIT kids, its tuned down a half step to Eb!
Now, for most bands, this would be NO BIG DEAL. Actually, since the GRUNGE bands of the early 90's, this is common practice among modern rockers 'cause it gives the music added grit and heavyness.
But, back in the day, THIS USED TO BE ONE OF THE SISTERS PET BITCHES ABOUT DAVE!!!! They cried EVERYWHERE they could bout how they had to tune to OTHER than standard tunning to ACCOMODATE DAVE's lower range vocals. But with Spam, their were NO BOUNDARIES! So, one must assume, that SPAM's vocal range AIN't what it used to be. The old BASTARD can't hit the highnotes anymore.
OR, it might seem, that the bros were BULLSHITTING ONCE AGAIN just to try and disparage DAVE. Either way, FUCK THE VAN HALEN SISTERS!!!! :fucku2:

So the van halen brothers complained about having to down tune a whole half step...Big falcon deal. It was done since Van Halen 1, And they made 6 albulms with Dave, big deal. Some songs dave talked out the lyrics, so the tunning had to be a bit deaper to accomadate some non-singing songs. And liek you said, it's done all the time. Plus, this thing with sammy started back in 1985, where songs were played in both standard E, than D, It's not really so much a sign of a wanning voice as I stated before, different songs, require different tunning.

It's like Metallica, They started out with standard tunning, moved to Eb, and now use Db tunning, yet James can still kick it live...The tunning of one song isn't evident enough to make the claims you're making.

As for the VH brothers contradicting themselfs, Hell I agree with you. They made up at least 3 different stories towards why DAve wasn't in vh in 1985, and at least 3 for why sammy was no longer in the band. They like to take cheap jabs about irrelavent things to help belittle somebody they hate, it's Called Ad hominem.

Same with what Kerry tried to do with Bush in the debates last year.