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  • 5150Clown
    Head Fluffer
    • Mar 2004
    • 334

    #16
    Thanks guys. I'm encouraged. I thought it was a crazy idea, but hey..now I'm gonna do it. And Rikk...thanks for the offer. You're welcomed to contribute anytime.

    I think Deconstructing the Dave years is a cool angle, but the title should be "It's about time...why Eddie wants to delete Dave?"
    "If Eddie & Dave would put asside their egos, Aerosmith would have to give up their tittle of the 'Greatest American Rock Band'"

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    • 5150Clown
      Head Fluffer
      • Mar 2004
      • 334

      #17
      ps - I wanted the point to be that Dave & Eddie should be friends in the name of all the fans. Even if Dave is not back in VH...I think those two talking again and being at peace would be awesome enough to all the fans. All this hatred is way too negative. Especially when the music is so darn good and it is getting ignored.
      "If Eddie & Dave would put asside their egos, Aerosmith would have to give up their tittle of the 'Greatest American Rock Band'"

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      • Figs
        Crazy Ass Mofo
        • Jun 2004
        • 2945

        #18
        Originally posted by 5150Clown
        ps - I wanted the point to be that Dave & Eddie should be friends in the name of all the fans. Even if Dave is not back in VH...I think those two talking again and being at peace would be awesome enough to all the fans. All this hatred is way too negative. Especially when the music is so darn good and it is getting ignored.
        The music is not really getting ignored, certainly not by classic rock radio, and not even by VH (they couldn't keep some of those songs off the new release or their current set list). Dave is being ignored by VH. They must have been friends at some point, they certainly clicked together as songwriters in a way few have.

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        • Rikk
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Jan 2004
          • 16518

          #19
          Originally posted by 5150Clown
          Thanks guys. I'm encouraged. I thought it was a crazy idea, but hey..now I'm gonna do it. And Rikk...thanks for the offer. You're welcomed to contribute anytime.

          I think Deconstructing the Dave years is a cool angle, but the title should be "It's about time...why Eddie wants to delete Dave?"
          Awesome stuff. Keep me posted, and I can write articles and shit for you.
          Roth Army Militia

          Originally posted by WARF
          Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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          • Figs
            Crazy Ass Mofo
            • Jun 2004
            • 2945

            #20
            Originally posted by Rikk
            Awesome stuff. Keep me posted, and I can write articles and shit for you.
            You can shit for him? Wow!



            Just kidding around, no offense intended.

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            • Rikk
              DIAMOND STATUS
              • Jan 2004
              • 16518

              #21
              Originally posted by Figs
              You can shit for him? Wow!



              Just kidding around, no offense intended.
              NO!!! FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!

              FUCK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! YOU FUCKING CUNT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

              I'M SO ANGRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'M GONNA FUCKING KILL YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!

              Oh, I mean...just kidding too.:D
              Roth Army Militia

              Originally posted by WARF
              Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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              • 5150Clown
                Head Fluffer
                • Mar 2004
                • 334

                #22
                LOL...you guys are messed up. Hey...but this was good. My anger has eased a bit. I'll use it to do my new site.
                PRO DAVE FOR SURE!
                "If Eddie & Dave would put asside their egos, Aerosmith would have to give up their tittle of the 'Greatest American Rock Band'"

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                • bueno bob
                  DIAMOND STATUS
                  • Jul 2004
                  • 22951

                  #23
                  Back to the original topic, seeing the packaging for BOBW pissed me off as well...I think, perhaps, about the only thing left for Van Halen to do at this point is to go back and re-record the first six albums with Hagar at the mic.

                  Is it all that unlikely that they'd resort to that? I used to think so, but as the years pass, now I'm not quite so certain (started out at 100% certain they'd never do that....now I'm at, like, 85% and falling).

                  It seems BEYOND absurd, yes, but so does putting out a two disc career retrospective and pretending that you never had any other vocalist. About as intelligent as, say, Black Sabbath putting out a career retrospective and having a booklet with nothing but pictures of the band and Tony Martin, even though the material would draw as far back as 1970! "Oh, we'll just pretend that there never was any Ozzy guy..." - it would be a ludicrous idea.

                  So I don't know, man, it wouldn't surprise me to hear an interview with Mike or Al & Roy, saying that they were discussing it and they thought that it would be a "Big Step Forward" to go back over those first six albums and re-record the vocals with Sammy, since the original vocals were "flawed" and the lyrics were "Not Too Good" and they needed to be re-"Halenized" because Van Halen is a band that's all about "Moving Forward And Not Looking Back (c)" or some other ridiculous bullshit.

                  Could you imagine the head that would give Hagar? "Now, I AM VAN HALEN! It's all my material!" Sad thing about that is that Ed, Al and Mike would back him every inch of the way, more than likely.

                  I really wish there was a voice of reason somewhere inside camp Van Halen. Somebody to just whisper into Ed's ear when the moment is right and get this train back on the right track.
                  Twistin' by the pool.

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                  • Warham
                    DIAMOND STATUS
                    • Mar 2004
                    • 14589

                    #24
                    We don't have to worry about them going back and covering Dave's vocals on the 6 Pack.

                    If Ed and Al did that, the music press would have a field day (even more than they do now). They would be ridiculed the rest of their natural lives (and probably for all eternity). Oh, yeah, and Al would be perceived as a cunt by people who don't have a clue about Van Halen.

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                    • Rikk
                      DIAMOND STATUS
                      • Jan 2004
                      • 16518

                      #25
                      It was bad enough when Ozzy's management (his stupid fucking wife) decided to cut Ozzy's original rhythm section off of the new remasters of the first and second Ozzy solo albums. In fact, those remasters were only brought out (again) so that the CDs would be updated and NOT include the original playing. The original drum and bass parts were re-recorded by studio musicians and/or members of Ozzy's current band.

                      Why did Sharon have this done? Simple: she was having a royalty dispute with the original members and decided that all future releases of these albums would allow for no royalty rates going their way.

                      Fucking disgusting.
                      Roth Army Militia

                      Originally posted by WARF
                      Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                      • bueno bob
                        DIAMOND STATUS
                        • Jul 2004
                        • 22951

                        #26
                        I remember that...I side with Bob Daisely (MY HERO) and Lee Kerslake on that one all the way - and made sure I got the word out.

                        I don't know, I guess at this point, whenever it comes to Van Halen doing something to destroy the Roth era legacy, I guess I just expect the worst.
                        Twistin' by the pool.

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                        • Rikk
                          DIAMOND STATUS
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 16518

                          #27
                          Death would be a good career move for Eddie by this point.
                          Roth Army Militia

                          Originally posted by WARF
                          Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                          • bueno bob
                            DIAMOND STATUS
                            • Jul 2004
                            • 22951

                            #28
                            He'd sell more records, anyway - ask Morrison, Joplin, Hendrix and Cobain about that one.

                            Twistin' by the pool.

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                            • Rikk
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 16518

                              #29
                              Originally posted by bueno bob
                              He'd sell more records, anyway - ask Morrison, Joplin, Hendrix and Cobain about that one.

                              Yup. It's gotta suck when you have to die at work in order to get paid.
                              Roth Army Militia

                              Originally posted by WARF
                              Rikk - The new school of the Roth Army... this dude leads the pack... three words... The Sheep Pen... this dude opened alot of doors for people during this new era... he's the best of the new school.

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                              • ZahZoo
                                ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                                • Jan 2004
                                • 9208

                                #30
                                I don't know guys I think you are putting too much stock into the liner notes... Nobody buys an album for the liner notes/pictures (I know the guy borrowed a copy). To me that's like saying you buy Playboy for the articles... yeah right.

                                The history section in the notes covers the original era nicely but reads like it was written for someone who's lived under a rock the last 30 years... but then again this thing wasn't packaged for the die-hard fan cause we all own multiple copies of most of the stuff.

                                The music stands on it's own... well every other cut that is...
                                "If you want to be a monk... you gotta cook a lot of rice...”

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