How America's Catholic Church crucified itself

[Seshmeister]

And I'll show you where it states that non believers and their children should be burnt to death.

"Suppose you hear in one of the towns the LORD your God is giving you that some worthless rabble among you have led their fellow citizens astray by encouraging them to worship foreign gods. In such cases, you must examine the facts carefully. If you find it is true and can prove that such a detestable act has occurred among you, you must attack that town and completely destroy all its inhabitants, as well as all the livestock. Then you must pile all the plunder in the middle of the street and burn it. Put the entire town to the torch as a burnt offering to the LORD your God. That town must remain a ruin forever; it may never be rebuilt. Keep none of the plunder that has been set apart for destruction. Then the LORD will turn from his fierce anger and be merciful to you. He will have compassion on you and make you a great nation, just as he solemnly promised your ancestors. "The LORD your God will be merciful only if you obey him and keep all the commands I am giving you today, doing what is pleasing to him." (Deuteronomy 13:13-19 NLT)

[WARF]

Why do you believe that sesh, if the bible has been altered or is simply a myth?

The fact is simple... Those who aren't for god, are against him...

Satan wants us to believe in the LIE.

It may sound completely insane...

But even if you pray to god... to make you believe...

He promises he will come in...

It's kinda hard to explain... but it's supernatural...

And you'll never understand it until you accept it.

[WARF]

Forget about Katydid... forget about everyone on TV...
Who says... PRAISE JEEEEEEEEEEE-ZUS!
I would change the channel from listening to those two words...
And as well as the "ugly" lookin' Christian hairdo...
You know... The ELVIS PRESLEY haircut... lol
Just believe... and if you can't... pray to believe..
He will come in.

I know it sounds like some Low Budget Horror film.
But it's true... I thought I was fucking insane at first.
There is also a huge misconception about christianity.
People think we sit around and pray all day... and call people sinners...
But I go out to bars and drink... and I listen to classic Van Halen...
I'm not perfect... I fuck up from time to time...
So what makes it so hard being a Christian?
What makes me different than anyone else at this message board?

[WARF]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
No.

Someone betwwen 60 and 110 years later in a book now called the gospel of John wrote that Jesus said that.

Your asking alot of questions sesh.
Atleast your interested in the subject.
But my question is this...
If I promised you that god and jesus is real...
And even though you don't understand everything..
If you pray to him to make you understand...
And you ask him into your heart...
He promises he will come in...

What if I promised you... that your life would change instantly?
Would you take that chance?
You already believe that you become "ziltch" after you die.
I promise you... as Jesus promised...
And because I speak through him...
That if you accept him into your heart... and ask him for the answers sincerely... that your life will change instantly...
That I promise you.
I'm not lying to you.
This isn't a joke... this isn't a troll... (like when we trolled fat women in 2001)
I believe in the truth... therefore I speak the truth.

[WARF]

Ted Turner once said long ago...

" Jesus Christ is for weak minded people."

You know what...
he's 100% right...

We are all weak without Jesus!

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by WARF
Why do you believe that sesh, if the bible has been altered or is simply a myth?

The fact is simple... Those who aren't for god, are against him...

Satan wants us to believe in the LIE.

It may sound completely insane...

But even if you pray to god... to make you believe...

He promises he will come in...

It's kinda hard to explain... but it's supernatural...

And you'll never understand it until you accept it.

It's a myth that has been altered.

There is no supernatural, that's effectively what the word means, something that does not exist.

If you want to pretend or believe something that is logically and factually false as a coping mechanism then that's up to you.

I wouldn't look to the writings of superstitious bronze age peasants to fix my car or tell me what the weather is going to be like tomorrow so I certainly wouldn't look to them to tell me how the universe works or what morality I should follow to lead an enjoyable, productive worthwhile life.

Particularly the writings of the bible which are ludicrous and almost bereft of any decent lessons about life.

Cheers!

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by WARF
Ted Turner once said long ago...

" Jesus Christ is for weak minded people."

You know what...
he's 100% right...

We are all weak without Jesus!

No, you need Jesus because you are weak which is a different thing entirely.

[Seshmeister]

Originally posted by WARF
Your asking alot of questions sesh.

The problem is you are not.

You need to step outside the bubble and look back in.

[WARF]

So you're happy knowing that you will be fertilizer when you die?

I have given you the alternative answer.

Why would I lie to you?
If I didn't care... I would walk away.
But I do care... and I promise you if you pray to him...
And ask him to make a believer of you...
And that you accept him as god...
Even though it all sounds like fairy tale bullshit...
He will come in...

But you can't even do that, can you?
What do you have to lose?
You believe that you will die as nothing!

[WARF]

Originally posted by Seshmeister
The problem is you are not.

You need to step outside the bubble and look back in.

I'm not stepping outside the bubble, I've already been there.

I am bringing you into the bubble.

If your theory on life is correct.. and we just plain fucking die.

Then what do you have to lose.

I tell you truth... and you don't listen.

I have told you the answer, and you still deny it.

I was an atheist, and did not believe just like you.

I am proof that Jesus is alive and real.
Here is your proof.

[WARF]

be right back...
I'm gonna go light up a joint...

(The bible says enjoy the fruits of this earth!)
uh u hu hu hu hu hu h

It's my day off... fuck it...
Where's Full Bug at?

[WARF]

Come On, Seshmeister... pretend you are Elton John...
And join my "circle of life" lmao
That was very gay!
Believe in Jesus sesh...
You big stubborn headed scottish dildo you!!!

Put down your sheppard pie... and haggish...
AND BELIEVE!!!!

[Katydid]

Act of Contrition

O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended you. I detest all my sins because of your just punishments. But most of all because they offend you, my God, who are all good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of your grace to sin no more and to avoid the near occaasions of sin. Amen.


Renew Prayer

Gracious God and Father, we are your people embraced by your love. We thank you for your presence with us throughout all time. Create us anew through Jesus Christ, your Son. Liberate us from all that keeps us from you. Send your Holy Spirit, enabling us to recreate our world and restore justice. Heal us from every form of sin and violence. transform us to live your Word more profoundly. Reconcile us so enemies becoem friends. Awaken us to the sacred; nuture our relationships. Enliven our parishes; reunite our families. Fill us with joy to celebrate the fullness of life. Empower us to be a community of love growing in your likeness by the grace of Christ our Lord. Amen.

1st. Letter of St. Paul to the Corinthians

Brothers and sisters; No one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

There are different kinds of spiritual gifts but the same Spirit; there are different forms of service but the same Lord; there are different workings but the same God who produces all of them in everyone. To each individual the manifestation of the Spirit is given for some benefit.

As a body is one though it has many parts, and all the parts of the body, though many, are one body, so also Christ. For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free persons, and we were all given to drink of one Spirit.


Veni, Sancte Spiritus

Come, Holy Spirit, come!
And from your celestial home
Shed a ray of light divine!

Come Father of the poor!
Come, source of all our store!
Come, within our bosoms shine.
You, of comforters the best;
You, the soul's most welcome guest;
Sweet refreshment here below
In our labor, rest most sweet;
Grateful coolness inthe heat;
Solace int he midst of woe.

O most blessed Light divine,
Shine within these hearts of yours,
And our inmost being fill!

Where you are not, we have
naught,
Nothing good in deed or thought,
Nothing free from taint of ill.
Heal our wounds, our strength renew;
On our dryness pour your dew;
Wash the stains of guilt away:
Bend the stubborn heart and will;
Melt the frozen, warm the chill;
Guide the speps that go astray.

On the faithful, we adore
And confess you, evermore
In your sevenfold gift descend;
Give them virtue's sure reward;
Give them your salvation, Lord;
Give them joys that never end.

Amen
Alleluia.


Come, Holy SPirit, fill the hearts of your faithful
and kindle in them the fire of your love.

Lord send out your spirit and renew the face of the earth.

Lord's Prayer

Our Father who art in Heaven,
Hallowed be thy name;
Thy kingdom come;
thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those
Who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
the power,
and the Glory forever.

AMEN

SIGNING OF THE SENSES:

Priest:
l. Receive the cross on your forehead. It is Christ himself who now strengthens you with this sign of his love. Learn to know and follow him.

2. Receive the sign of the cross on your eyes, that you may hear the voice of the Lord.

3. Receive the sign of the cross on your eyes, that you may see the glory of God.

4. Receive the sign of the cross on your lips, that you may respond to the word of God.

5. Receive the sign of the cross over your heart, that Christ may dwell there by faith, the gentle yoke of Christ.

6. Receive the sign of the cross on your shoulders that you may bear the gentle yoke of Christ.

BLESSING: Priest

7. I sign you witht he sign of eternla life in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

Amen, and Amen.

Those who seek your face, Lord, with a pure heart shall stand in your holy place.

Psalm 26 (Scrutinies)
l. Examine mee, God, test my motives.
My thoughts and desires you can see.
Your love, ever constant is my guide;
O lead me in your truth.

2. My hands I have washed in my innocence.
I worship your name at your altar.
A hymn of thanksgiving I will sing
to tell your wondrous deeds.

3. O God how I love where you live,
the place where you dwell
in your glory.
O spare me from evil and the fate
of those who sin against you.

4. I walk on the path of perfection.
Redeem me and show me your mercy.
O God, from all danger keep me safe.
I bless you with your people,

Psalm 32 (Scrutineies)

1. O happy are those you forgive,
the people whose sin'you have pardoned,
O happy the guiltless for their hearts
are free from all deceit.

2. O God when I grieved at my guilt
my days were exhausted with crying;
your hands was upon me night and day,
my strength drained away.

3. But then I concessed all my sins,
I did not conceal my wrongdoings.
To you I confessed them
and in love
You have forgiven me.

4. God, you are the place where I hide.
When I am in trouble you save me.
Aloud I will sing of your salvation.
God, protect my soul.

(Writings of King David)

[Sarge's Little Helper]

Act of Contrition

O my God, I am heartily sorry for having offended you. I detest all my sins because of your just punishments. But most of all because they offend you, my God, who are all good and deserving of all my love. I firmly resolve, with the help of your grace to sin no more and to avoid the near occaasions of sin. Amen.


Renew Prayer

Gracious God and Father, we are your people embraced by your love. We thank you for your presence with us throughout all time. Create us anew through Jesus Christ, your Son. Liberate us from all that keeps us from you. Send your Holy Spirit, enabling us to recreate our world and restore justice. Heal us from every form of sin and violence. transform us to live your Word more profoundly. Reconcile us so enemies becoem friends. Awaken us to the sacred; nuture our relationships. Enliven our parishes; reunite our families. Fill us with joy to celebrate the fullness of life. Empower us to be a community of love growing in your likeness by the grace of Christ our Lord. Amen.

1st. Letter of St. Paul to the Corinthians

Brothers and sisters; No one can say, "Jesus is Lord," except by the Holy Spirit.

There are different kinds of spiritual gifts but the same Spirit; there are different forms of service but the same Lord; there are different workings but the same God who produces all of them in everyone. To each individual the manifestation of the Spirit is given for some benefit.

As a body is one though it has many parts, and all the parts of the body, though many, are one body, so also Christ. For in one Spirit we were all baptized into one body, whether Jews or Greeks, slaves or free persons, and we were all given to drink of one Spirit.


Veni, Sancte Spiritus

Come, Holy Spirit, come!
And from your celestial home
Shed a ray of light divine!

Come Father of the poor!
Come, source of all our store!
Come, within our bosoms shine.
You, of comforters the best;
You, the soul's most welcome guest;
Sweet refreshment here below
In our labor, rest most sweet;
Grateful coolness inthe heat;
Solace int he midst of woe.

O most blessed Light divine,
Shine within these hearts of yours,
And our inmost being fill!

Where you are not, we have
naught,
Nothing good in deed or thought,
Nothing free from taint of ill.
Heal our wounds, our strength renew;
On our dryness pour your dew;
Wash the stains of guilt away:
Bend the stubborn heart and will;
Melt the frozen, warm the chill;
Guide the speps that go astray.

On the faithful, we adore
And confess you, evermore
In your sevenfold gift descend;
Give them virtue's sure reward;
Give them your salvation, Lord;
Give them joys that never end.

Amen
Alleluia.


Come, Holy SPirit, fill the hearts of your faithful
and kindle in them the fire of your love.

Lord send out your spirit and renew the face of the earth.

Lord's Prayer

Our Father who art in Heaven,
Hallowed be thy name;
Thy kingdom come;
thy will be done
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread;
and forgive us our trespasses
as we forgive those
Who trespass against us;
and lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
the power,
and the Glory forever.

AMEN

SIGNING OF THE SENSES:

Priest:
l. Receive the cross on your forehead. It is Christ himself who now strengthens you with this sign of his love. Learn to know and follow him.

2. Receive the sign of the cross on your eyes, that you may hear the voice of the Lord.

3. Receive the sign of the cross on your eyes, that you may see the glory of God.

4. Receive the sign of the cross on your lips, that you may respond to the word of God.

5. Receive the sign of the cross over your heart, that Christ may dwell there by faith, the gentle yoke of Christ.

6. Receive the sign of the cross on your shoulders that you may bear the gentle yoke of Christ.

BLESSING: Priest

7. I sign you witht he sign of eternla life in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit.

Amen, and Amen.

Those who seek your face, Lord, with a pure heart shall stand in your holy place.

Psalm 26 (Scrutinies)
l. Examine mee, God, test my motives.
My thoughts and desires you can see.
Your love, ever constant is my guide;
O lead me in your truth.

2. My hands I have washed in my innocence.
I worship your name at your altar.
A hymn of thanksgiving I will sing
to tell your wondrous deeds.

3. O God how I love where you live,
the place where you dwell
in your glory.
O spare me from evil and the fate
of those who sin against you.

4. I walk on the path of perfection.
Redeem me and show me your mercy.
O God, from all danger keep me safe.
I bless you with your people,

Psalm 32 (Scrutineies)

1. O happy are those you forgive,
the people whose sin'you have pardoned,
O happy the guiltless for their hearts
are free from all deceit.

2. O God when I grieved at my guilt
my days were exhausted with crying;
your hands was upon me night and day,
my strength drained away.

3. But then I concessed all my sins,
I did not conceal my wrongdoings.
To you I confessed them
and in love
You have forgiven me.

4. God, you are the place where I hide.
When I am in trouble you save me.
Aloud I will sing of your salvation.
God, protect my soul.

(Writings of King David)

Oops. I wasn't paying attention. Tell me again what is going on.

[Hyman Roth]

So....Elivs was Katydid all along?