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  • Cathedral
    ROTH ARMY ELITE
    • Jan 2004
    • 6621

    #61
    All you need to do is find the documents for your state online, fill it out, go to a notery and sign it in front of them so they can stamp it.
    If you have a large estate with outstanding debts/mortgages etc. you will most likely want a lawyers assistance.

    And then there is a living will, which is different than the Last Will.

    The living will goes into effect the moment you are incapacitated and you have all you instructions written out there for the doctors to follow.

    The Last Will goes into effect the moment you die and determines who and how your estate is to be settled.

    It really isn't that difficult to do, and if you have children it is the most important thing you can do as a parent.
    The hardest part for me was to come face to face with my own mortality, but you'll feel much better about things after you have secured everything for your families future, trust me, it's a huge relief knowing they'll be taken care of.

    Oh, and there are plenty of resources to get these forms for free. don't fall for the sites that require you to purchase them.
    Last edited by Cathedral; 03-19-2005, 11:22 PM.

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    • tomballin
      Commando
      • Dec 2004
      • 1284

      #62
      I'm not a Republican or voted for Bushie, but my money says Michael Schiavo and his attorney George "fucked in the head" Felo's, just lost again Bush and Junk Yard Dog, Tom "needs to be in prison" DeLay.

      Time will tell. - Tomba


      Mar 19, 2005 9:50 pm EST

      Bush Returning to Washington Over Schiavo
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      Bush Changing Schedule to Return to Washington to Sign Emergency Legislation on Schiavo Case
      By JENNIFER LOVEN Associated Press Writer

      CRAWFORD, Texas - President Bush is changing his schedule to return to the White House on Sunday to be in place to sign emergency legislation that would shift the case of a brain-damaged Florida woman to federal courts, the White House said Saturday.

      "Everyone recognizes that time is important here," White House press secretary Scott McClellan said. "This is about defending life."

      After Terri Schiavo's feeding tube was removed on Friday, members of Congress worked out a deal to pass legislation to allow federal courts to decide the 41-year-old woman's fate and in the hopes of supporters of the woman's parents restore the tube that was keeping her alive.

      The House and Senate hoped to act on the legislation Sunday, so Bush decided he needed to be in Washington so he could immediately sign the bill, McClellan said. "The president intends to sign legislation as quickly as possible once it is passed," McClellan said.

      During previous travels, Bush has had legislation flown to him overnight by military plane for his signature. But in this case, McClellan said that the fact that a woman's life is at stake made it necessary for him to travel to the bill. "Terri Schiavo's feeding tube has been removed and we stand with … all those who are working to defend her life," he said.

      McClellan said that Bush had not talked with any members of Congress Saturday about the case, but was kept apprised by his staff. He dismissed any suggestion that there were any political considerations at work, either in the quick and aggressive congressional action or the president's hurried return to the White House.

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      • FORD
        ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

        • Jan 2004
        • 59650

        #63
        This is even less the business of the BCE than Iraq was. They need to stay the fuck out of it.
        Eat Us And Smile

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        • Warham
          DIAMOND STATUS
          • Mar 2004
          • 14589

          #64
          Too late.

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          • tomballin
            Commando
            • Dec 2004
            • 1284

            #65
            A lot of great points here, that I respect, but might I add:

            If Terri's Schiavo's parents ever get their hands on the sealed court and accounting documents, they will probably easily be able to send Michael Schiavo to jail, according to experts close to the case, and MS know it. That is why he wants his wife dead, and this mess to go away.

            MS blew all her court awarded money on legal fees trying to kill her, against the covenants of the awards, and even the insurance company on the Physician's malpractice award he got, has been unable to get their hands on the records, and bring suit, because of the ignorant and corrupt Probate Judge over the case, and Florida’s ultra liberal privacy laws. You know those ultra liberal privacy laws that protected all those 9/11 WTC terrorists living in Florida, before they brought those two towers down.

            Courts are not about right and wrong any longer, they are about who has the most money to put on a good show, ask O.J. Simpson, also a Florida resident.

            Michael Schiavo used Terri's million bucks for the legal show, not taking care of her. That is why she is illegally in a hospice, and the State of Florida is picking up the tab. A Hospice, that MS’s fucked in the head attorney, George Felos was on the Board of Directors, and the Probate Judge has had ties.

            This case stop being about Terri Schiavo, years ago. That's why it's a circus now that only dirty politicians will mess with.

            Many legal experts from across the Country have said that if this case was not being heard in Florida, the outcome would be very different. Like I said you have to understand the details of this highly complex case. Michael Schiavo & George Felos are stacking several ultra liberal Florida laws together to win this case, and they could not do it in ANY other State in the U.S. PERIOD.

            But like I stated earlier, if her parents lose her this time, they only have themselves to blame. Her father is a bumble fuck idiot, that has made a shame of this case.

            That is why this whole family feud circus, makes me sick

            Just my 3 cents

            Roth On

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            • tomballin
              Commando
              • Dec 2004
              • 1284

              #66
              Originally posted by FORD
              This is even less the business of the BCE than Iraq was. They need to stay the fuck out of it.
              Well on that subject.......

              People that don't have a PVS member in their family, need to stay the fuck out of this issue, because they cannot understand it from the outside looking in.

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              • tomballin
                Commando
                • Dec 2004
                • 1284

                #67
                Originally posted by Warham
                Too late.

                Terri has surprised everyone to date, in her ability to stay alive. I have never seen anything like it .

                PVS's have very low metabolic levels, so they can live a lot longer without food and liquids than a normal person, like up to two weeks, but still this lady's resilience is something else.

                Guess we will see how long she last's this time, if this thing even goes past Monday-Tuesday, before they put a feeding tube back in her, which would surprise me.

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                • tomballin
                  Commando
                  • Dec 2004
                  • 1284

                  #68
                  Check out Michael Schaivo attorney, George S. Felos.



                  This flake belongs in a mental ward, not practicing law. Read this bizzare stuff he says in his book, "Litigation as Spiritual Practice" It's some of the craziest shite I have ever read.



                  "Such a deep, dark, silent blue. I stared as far into her eyes as I could, hoping to sense some glimmer of understanding, some hint of awareness. The deeper I dove, the darker became the blue, until the blue became the black of some bottomless lake. "Mrs. Browning, do you want to die ... do you want to die?" I nearly shouted as I continued to peer into her pools of strikingly beautiful but incognizant blue. It felt so eerie. Her eyes were wide open and crystal clear, but instead of the warmth of lucidity, they burned with the ice of expressionlessness."

                  Litigation as Spiritual Practice describes the excitement and drama of the courtroom, and the ecstasy and anguish of spiritual evolution in a combative environment. If the seemingly barren and war-strewn field of litigation can be the playground where spirit dances, it can revel anywhere.

                  -----------

                  His book at:



                  LOL, looks like the FreeRepublic.com fascists has been bagging Amazon.com's reader reviews again on Felo's book.

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                  • tomballin
                    Commando
                    • Dec 2004
                    • 1284

                    #69
                    Great to have an M.D. here at the Army.

                    You every seen one of these take place. If you did, you would not make these statements.

                    Only the most severe PVS's cannot feel it or suffer, and Terri is not in that category, as all her internal vital and self-regulatory functions are intact. That's what makes this situation so damn difficult. Her attending physician will dope her up to reduce the pain and suffering.

                    It's "standard procedure".


                    Originally posted by Cathedral
                    That's just it, Warham, removing the tube is not starving her to death because the body will not react to it as starvation.
                    The part of the brain that controls that is destroyed.

                    The media and those who seriously have no clue what the hell is really going on with her are the one's that have everyone calling it starvation.

                    What would happen is she would dehydrate long before she starved anyway. at that point she slips into a coma and the body shuts down after a few days to a week.

                    It is actually quite peaceful for someone in her condition, regardless of what is said on television.

                    And the bottom line here is that it is the husbands right and responsibility to make this call no matter what people say or think about him, or at least it was his right.

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                    • tomballin
                      Commando
                      • Dec 2004
                      • 1284

                      #70
                      Question:

                      If it’s not right for the Bush Administration and the Federal government to step in on this 3 ring Schiavo family feud circus, I guess you must have been a Clinton Admin supportor and it was Ok, for that Fed Swat team to raid that Miami, Florida house, capture Elian Gonzales at gunpoint, and ship that kid back to Cuba, against U.S. Laws.

                      I mean which side of the political barn are we going to sit on here?

                      Last post on this subject. Be well

                      Tomba


                      Originally posted by FORD
                      The courts who have heard this case repeatedly over the last 15 years have consistently upheld that fact, siding with her husband. What the Busheep in Congress are attempting is blatantly unconstitutional, and they aren't doing it because of Terry Schiavo. Don't kid yourself. These fuckers are trying to establish a precedent to overthrow ANY court ruling they don't like.

                      Draw your own conclusions where that can lead.
                      Last edited by tomballin; 03-20-2005, 01:09 AM.

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                      • Sarge
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Feb 2003
                        • 5424

                        #71
                        Tomballin, I have read your posts and I think you are fooling yourself.

                        First, they do have a handle on where Terri's money went...
                        It is listed on her website terrisfight.org
                        Most of it went to legal fees.

                        Terri has not spoke 1 word.. not one word since her accident.
                        They even had an electrical device implanted into her brain against the advice of the surgeons doing the surgery (they said it wouldn't do her any good),, and it didn't.

                        There isn't anything there to rehabilitate.
                        She has never shown any concious brain activity.

                        I think it's a great move to remove the feeding tube.
                        I am sure if she could have saw her future she would have wanted it removed as well.

                        Her husband might be a prick, but her parents are just as fucked up.
                        This is more of a legal wrangle between these 2 parties than it is a right to die issue.

                        Let the woman go.
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                        • tomballin
                          Commando
                          • Dec 2004
                          • 1284

                          #72
                          Like I said it's not about Terri any longer, and a lot of that stuff on here parents website, terrisfight.org is bullshit.

                          However on the money situation, it's not and it was illegal for Michael Schiavo to use Terri's $650,000 rehab money on legal fees, to gun down her parents in the courtroom. That, among other matters, is what has supercharged this whole damn issue, and why now the Country is wasting resources on this one person.

                          It looks like the polydics in D.C. are passing a bill targeted specifically at her, like what Florida did, which is more bullshit, and will never hold up in the courts. Although D.C. has passed previous individually targeted laws, and they held up, but not like this one.

                          The whole problem is Florida's banana Republic laws, and a husband and attorney, and even the Judge, that know they are in a shit load of problems, if Terri's records ever get unsealed.

                          Bottom line, your right, and there is no "right decisions" here any longer, and the whole thing is a fricking train wreak.

                          Roth On


                          Originally posted by Sarge
                          Tomballin, I have read your posts and I think you are fooling yourself.

                          First, they do have a handle on where Terri's money went...
                          It is listed on her website terrisfight.org
                          Most of it went to legal fees.

                          Terri has not spoke 1 word.. not one word since her accident.
                          They even had an electrical device implanted into her brain against the advice of the surgeons doing the surgery (they said it wouldn't do her any good),, and it didn't.

                          There isn't anything there to rehabilitate.
                          She has never shown any concious brain activity.

                          I think it's a great move to remove the feeding tube.
                          I am sure if she could have saw her future she would have wanted it removed as well.

                          Her husband might be a prick, but her parents are just as fucked up.
                          This is more of a legal wrangle between these 2 parties than it is a right to die issue.

                          Let the woman go.
                          Last edited by tomballin; 03-20-2005, 02:21 AM.

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                          • rustoffa
                            ROTH ARMY SUPREME
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 8963

                            #73
                            Originally posted by tomballin
                            That, among other matters, is what has supercharged this whole damn issue, and why now the Country is wasting resources on this one person.

                            I wouldn't really care if it was just a few bags of ringers lactate here and there.

                            Astronaut food is pretty x-pensive though.

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                            • tomballin
                              Commando
                              • Dec 2004
                              • 1284

                              #74
                              Originally posted by rustoffa
                              I wouldn't really care if it was just a few bags of ringers lactate here and there.

                              Astronaut food is pretty x-pensive though.
                              Naw, just keep the costs down by emptying a few pixie stick’s in here solute. She’d probably like the zippy colored sugar.

                              To me the whole answer here is:

                              1. Yes, let her go
                              2. Dispense some Sicilian style justice to her fuckhead husband and his attorney George Felos
                              3. Get back to what’s important in life, - sex, drugs, and R & R.

                              Besides, Terri’s sister is really a tasty number. Nice!

                              Problem solved. This Country has gotten too civilized, imo. Maybe we will get lucky this time around and God will bail everyone out of this horrible mess. But with Tom DeLay involved, God probably will say no thanks, lol.

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                              • tomballin
                                Commando
                                • Dec 2004
                                • 1284

                                #75
                                Interesting pull from a just out news article on
                                Tom "The Hammer" DeLay (R-Houston)

                                ......DeLay, spent the day working the phone, calling members, and even stood on the Senate floor as they met Saturday evening. Dressed in a suit and tie, he appeared before TV cameras to explain why Congress was taking these extraordinary measures for one woman.

                                "The U.S. Constitution protects life of a human being taken by other human beings needlessly," he said.

                                DeLay was criticized for some of his strong comments Friday, and toned them down a day later but still took an opportunity to slam Michael Schiavo.

                                "I don't have a lot of respect for a man who has treated a woman in this way," he said. "What kind of man is he?"..........

                                ---------

                                Note: The Bush Family Texas Mafia is the most powerful family/cartel in the Country. M. Schiavo and G. Felos, don't stand a fricking chance. DeLay and Co. have the financial muscle to raise millions in Texas, overnight, to bury M. Schiavo.

                                DeLay and Co, is using the same cartel-group, out of Dallas and Houston, that destroyed both John Kerry's and John McCain's, bid against Dumbass.

                                Like I said this case hasn't been about Terri for years. It's about stopping Michael Schiavo from getting away scott free with his "criminal" misconduct and intent in this matter, and hiding behind Florida's screwed up and most liberal laws in the U.S. in this matter.

                                DeLay is a totally corrupt scumbag, but if he can burn Michael Schiavo's and his attorney George Felos at the stake, fuck it, let him go for it.

                                If someone finally broke it off in M Schiavo's ass, it would go a long way in getting her parents to be more reasonable in all concerns, and settle this disaster, imo


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                                Last edited by tomballin; 03-20-2005, 05:36 AM.

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