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  • The Scatologist
    Sniper
    • Jan 2005
    • 932

    Do you fuckers still think handguns are so cool now?

    Teen Killed for a Kiss Mourned in N.J.
    By JOHN CURRAN
    Associated Press Writer

    ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. - For Elisa Hernandez, no meant no - and a tragic death at age 15.
    When a frustrated suitor named Alfred Bishop asked her for a kiss, she refused him. Again and again, he asked. She said no. When he pulled out a revolver and pointed at her head, she pushed it away.

    "She laughed him off," Atlantic County Prosecutor Jeffrey Blitz said.

    The rejection cost her: After being rebuffed, Bishop shot her through the eye, cutting short the life of a bubbly, self-assured high school sophomore who loved hip-hop and dancing and went by "Lisa," according to authorities.

    "She was just joyful, a funny, outgoing person who didn't care if people talked about her," said friend Barb Parred, 21. "But something she didn't want to do, she wouldn't do it."

    Bishop, 21, fled after the shooting late Tuesday but was captured in Washington, D.C. He was being held without bail.

    "It doesn't make any sense," said the victim's mother, also named Elisa Hernandez, 32. "I think there's more to it than this. My feelings tell me that."

    On Tuesday night, the teen walked across the courtyard from the Brigantine Homes housing project unit she shared with her parents, both casino workers, and two siblings to visit with friends.

    She was already inside apartment 880A visiting with three girls who lived there - their mother, the only adult in the household, wasn't home - when authorities say Bishop arrived.

    Diagnosed as schizophrenic at age 10, Bishop had recently split with his girlfriend of six years and quit taking his medication because it made him sleepy and sluggish, according to his mother, Lisa Bishop, 40.

    He had been drinking and smoking marijuana earlier that night, said Lisa Bishop, who talked to her son by telephone after the killing.

    Alfred Bishop, who served a year in prison for aggravated assault by auto and was released nearly two years ago, was at the apartment because he had stored some of his belongings there, according to Blitz.

    After some casual conversation in the kitchen, Bishop tried to get Hernandez to kiss him, but she laughed at him, according to Blitz.

    Bishop then pulled out the gun, put it to her head and again demanded a kiss, Blitz said. According to witnesses, she said no and pushed the gun away twice before he shot her through the left eye and fled, Blitz said.

    Hernandez died at the scene.

    "He told me he did it and it was a big mistake and he loved me and was sorry to put me through all this," Bishop's mother said.

    His lawyer, Joel Mayer, said Friday that Bishop didn't intend to shoot. He said Bishop was a non-violent man, an assertion also made by Bishop's ex-girlfriend, Nicole White, 22.

    "I've been with him for six years and he never pulled a weapon on me, and we've been through everything," said White, the mother of Bishop's 3-year-old daughter. "He was never violent. We had our ups and downs, but he never hurt me."

    Bishop had threatened Hernandez previously, according to Hernandez' family.

    "That was not any accident, because two days before he killed my daughter, he was in my house drinking with me," said Luis Santiago, 34, the victim's father. "And I told him, `Yo, stop playing with a gun like that. You're a young kid. I've been in jail too much time. You will find yourself in jail for life.'

    "Also, he told my daughter `You are going to be mine, or you are going to be dead,'" Santiago said.
    The name Sammy Hagar conjures up a variety of emotions from music fans--from hate to contempt, from disgust to revulsion.

    -TheSmokingGun.com
  • fanofdave
    Foot Soldier
    • Jan 2004
    • 500

    #2
    a very tragic incident. however, the jackass who pulled
    the trigger could have as easily used a knife, a bat, his
    hands to strangle; the list could go on and on. you're
    focusing on the item used to kill, not the fact that HE killed.

    if you put a gun on the floor and tell it to shoot someone,
    it won't. some jackass has to put it in his hands and use it.
    people kill people.

    is a fork responsible for making people fat?
    or are the people responsible for picking it up and
    shoveling all that shit into their guts with it?

    your next move will be to tell me how ineffective
    gun laws are.
    well, gun laws aren't to stop crime. gun laws are to set
    consequences if you are fucking stupid enough to use
    one in a crime.

    we have laws against rape, incest; the list goes on and on.
    yet these things still occur. laws won't stop illegal activities.
    laws will mearly state the consequences you will deal with
    if you CHOOSE to be a fuck up.

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    • BigBadBrian
      TOASTMASTER GENERAL
      • Jan 2004
      • 10625

      #3
      Let's ban all handguns.
      “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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      • Seshmeister
        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

        • Oct 2003
        • 35755

        #4
        We did and it's great!

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        • 4moreyears
          Commando
          • Oct 2004
          • 1245

          #5
          As my quote says at the bottom. Just because a few nut jobs are out there those that choose to have a gun should be able to protect themselves.

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          • FORD
            ROTH ARMY MODERATOR

            • Jan 2004
            • 59650

            #6
            "Handguns are made for killin'. Ain't no good for nothin else" - Ronnie Van Zant
            Eat Us And Smile

            Cenk For America 2024!!

            Justice Democrats


            "If the American people had ever known the truth about what we (the BCE) have done to this nation, we would be chased down in the streets and lynched." - Poppy Bush, 1992

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            • diamondD
              Veteran
              • Jan 2004
              • 1962

              #7
              Especially killing a thug breaking in your house...
              Meet us in the future, not the pasture

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              • fanofdave
                Foot Soldier
                • Jan 2004
                • 500

                #8
                That's not what Ronnie says at the local gun club
                when we're target and skeet shooting...

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                • capnfrantic
                  Full On Cocktard
                  • Nov 2004
                  • 26

                  #9
                  Another "I'm scared to fight but I have a gun" pussy boy....

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                  • Mishar_McLeud
                    Head Fluffer
                    • Apr 2004
                    • 213

                    #10
                    Originally posted by fanofdave
                    a very tragic incident. however, the jackass who pulled
                    the trigger could have as easily used a knife, a bat, his
                    hands to strangle; the list could go on and on. you're
                    focusing on the item used to kill, not the fact that HE killed.
                    I don't agree, when a one uses melee weapons, assault depends on his strength (physical and mental) alone, while a gun gives a feeling of superiority, plus a person acts like a mediator between a gun and a victim. IMO it's much easier to pull a trigger than to hit with a blade.
                    'If there isn't something crazy that goes on in the span of the day then something's not right', - Zakk Wylde

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                    • Mishar_McLeud
                      Head Fluffer
                      • Apr 2004
                      • 213

                      #11
                      Originally posted by diamondD
                      Especially killing a thug breaking in your house...
                      There are rifles for such occasions
                      'If there isn't something crazy that goes on in the span of the day then something's not right', - Zakk Wylde

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                      • Seshmeister
                        ROTH ARMY WEBMASTER

                        • Oct 2003
                        • 35755

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Mishar_McLeud
                        There are rifles for such occasions
                        Exactly.

                        The advantage of a handgun is it can be concealed.

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                        • BigBadBrian
                          TOASTMASTER GENERAL
                          • Jan 2004
                          • 10625

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Seshmeister
                          We did and it's great!
                          No Kidding. You live in a lemming-like society to begin with. Keep following the script, Toto......
                          “If bullshit was currency, Joe Biden would be a billionaire.” - George W. Bush

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                          • Full Bug
                            Crazy Ass Mofo
                            • Jan 2004
                            • 2921

                            #14
                            Americans need a gun registry like we have here, it cost 500 million and counting and nobody gets killed here anymore, killers use butter knifes now so all you get is a bruise....
                            Diamond Mafia Forever - 4. To restore fullbug to the prominent place in this board, after various serious attacks by hitch1969 have now damaged his reputation and now is reguarded as a "Retarded, Stoned, Canadian, Dog finger bangin' fuckup"

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                            • Golden AWe
                              DIAMOND STATUS
                              • Jan 2004
                              • 34245

                              #15
                              Handguns are cool, when idiots play with them - that's not cool at all.
                              Originally posted by Cato
                              Golden, why are you FAT?
                              Originally posted by lesfunk
                              Much like yourself as the Jim Morrison of Nazi bunker flies
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