Do you fuckers still think handguns are so cool now?

[Nickdfresh]

Originally posted by Full Bug
Americans need a gun registry like we have here, it cost 500 million and counting and nobody gets killed here anymore, killers use butter knifes now so all you get is a bruise....

Exactly. I'm a "liberal" who likes guns. The problem here is somewhere in the middle in the US, where the NRA fights to have guns given away freely to everyone and gun-control advocates, who favor an absolute banning, fail to see that there are simply too many guns to take away. Neither concept works very well. ALL gun's should be registered! Period! and background checks performed on buyers of all weapons.

I think one of the few things that the New York state gov't does correctly is the handgun permit. One must go through: a six-month waiting period, writing a short essay as to why one needs a handgun, a background check that includes four provided references interviewed by the State Police. One must also go through a two-day safety and gun-law course. And then, you HAVE to buy a handgun after all is complete!

Also, it seems to easier to get ASSAULT RIFLES than handguns in many states, such as Virginia. This seems more blatantly foolish! The uneven state level gun laws in this country cause some southern states to be a sieve where assault weapons can be purchased anonymously, with only a drivers licence and "imported" to states with stricter gun accountability laws.

This tragic case is an example of that. Washington, DC has a city-wide ban on handguns, but I suspect the weapon originated from next-door Virginia, where they practically offer two-for one "fire" sales on guns, and you only need a drivers licence to buy them. I've always wondered about the irony of it being easier to buy a gun in some states than it is to get a fucking drivers licence! As if a gun is just a powertool!

[Nickdfresh]

BTW, anyone carrying a copy of this book into a gunstore should never, ever be sold a gun under any circumstances.

[Golden AWe]

In Funland, we have a gun registry too...even if you move to another town/city, you have to registry your gun at the local administration.

l: owner of a hunting rifle and a shotgun

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by Golden AWe
In Funland, we have a gun registry too...even if you move to another town/city, you have to registry your gun at the local administration.

l: owner of a hunting rifle and a shotgun

FINe and dandy: at least you can still own guns. :D

Some countries want to take those away also.

[Golden AWe]

Yup...we're one lucky nation. But I would like to have a foreign grrrlfriend again...hahahah

[academic punk]

Originally posted by fanofdave
a very tragic incident. however, the jackass who pulled
the trigger could have as easily used a knife, a bat, his
hands to strangle; the list could go on and on. you're
focusing on the item used to kill, not the fact that HE killed.

if you put a gun on the floor and tell it to shoot someone,
it won't. some jackass has to put it in his hands and use it.
people kill people.

is a fork responsible for making people fat?
or are the people responsible for picking it up and
shoveling all that shit into their guts with it?

your next move will be to tell me how ineffective
gun laws are.
well, gun laws aren't to stop crime. gun laws are to set
consequences if you are fucking stupid enough to use
one in a crime.

we have laws against rape, incest; the list goes on and on.
yet these things still occur. laws won't stop illegal activities.
laws will mearly state the consequences you will deal with
if you CHOOSE to be a fuck up.

Not a bad post, but I still find fault with the logic of your first point. Shall we dispense nuclear weapons for each and every household and person who desires one?

If the fucker didn't have a gun, circumstances - BOTTOM LINE - in this particular incident would have been far different. And I'm willing to wager he wouldn't have been copping the attitude he was in the first place.

[Cathedral]

Being a collector of handguns and other assorted weapons of choice myself, I am here to tell you all that gun laws do nothing more than penalize the law abiding gun owner.
Everytime some jerk commits a crime like this the first reaction is "We need more gun laws", and that's just plain bullshit.

What we need is for the 'existing' laws we already have to be enforced and prosecuted.

Laws only work on the law abiding, not the lawless.............

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by academic punk
Not a bad post, but I still find fault with the logic of your first point. Shall we dispense nuclear weapons for each and every household and person who desires one?

No, as they are currently against the law.

[FORD]

The bottom line here is that this fucking piece of shit, with a documented history of mental illness, should have NEVER been sold a gun in the first place. This is why mandatory background checks are a must, and the gunshow loophole must be closed (see "Columbine" for what happens for when crazy pieces of shit can buy weapons from unregulated militia wackos)

[drejr77]

I realize art and music cannot be blamed for violence. But look at the CULTURE at work here, people! Two fucking stupid hip-hop kids who worship a culture that promotes violence, sexism, misogyny, etc.
The males are usually violent, and the females allow this. Hip-Hop music killed feminism. It's a shame that somebody got killed, but hey, the fucking parents are stupid as well. The victim's father sees the kid with a gun and doesn't stop him preemptively? Darwin at work again folks.
Besides, as stated above, insane people will find ways to kill no matter what. Bare hands, weapons, whatever.

[BigBadBrian]

Originally posted by drejr77
I realize art and music cannot be blamed for violence. But look at the CULTURE at work here, people! Two fucking stupid hip-hop kids who worship a culture that promotes violence, sexism, misogyny, etc.
The males are usually violent, and the females allow this. Hip-Hop music killed feminism. It's a shame that somebody got killed, but hey, the fucking parents are stupid as well. The victim's father sees the kid with a gun and doesn't stop him preemptively? Darwin at work again folks.
Besides, as stated above, insane people will find ways to kill no matter what. Bare hands, weapons, whatever.

Actually, I think music CAN be blamed for violence, or at least contribute towards it. Listen to the lyrics. They are chilling.

[FORD]

Originally posted by BigBadBrian
Actually, I think music CAN be blamed for violence, or at least contribute towards it. Listen to the lyrics. They are chilling.

True. When I hear the lyrics to "Upchuck for Breakfast" I have an overwhelming urge to strangle Sammy Hagar.

[TLR]

I have the right to have a gun(s) and I choose to take advantage of it. A gun has never killed anyone. The person pulling the trigger has, though. Anyone who says/thinks differently is misguided, at best...

[diamondD]

Originally posted by Mishar_McLeud
There are rifles for such occasions

But they don't fit in my bedside table's drawer!

[BrownSound1]

Ford you are absolutely right...I have no problem with that at all.

Outlawing handguns is not the answer. That's a similar mentality to outlawing alcohol because of drunk drivers. The alcohol isn't the problem, it is the individuals.